Rangers Banter Archive January 15 2016

 

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15 Jan 2016 21:12:34
A hope Hardie doesn't go out on loan. Still think the boy could score for fun in this league if given a run of games. Some of his goals on YouTube have a real class about them. Compare it to the Latvian boys video and u would say Hardie looks the better player.
Would love to see him through the middle with Waggy and McKay either side for 3-4 games. Holt and Halliday behind them and the boy from Brentford in CDM. League would be sowed up for March. I'm not worried about Stokes in the slightest.



15 Jan 2016 21:47:22
I think we should sign Callum Paterson from Hearts and play him in the siting midfield role. He is quick, strong, great in the air, aggressive, defensive minded and has some engine. He can be cover for the wing backs as well. That boy is a player. I thought watching him last week verses Aberdeen that he could do a job being the sitting player in our team.



15 Jan 2016 23:32:34
Hearts are not likely to sell Paterson to us and even if they were they would want a lot more than we, most likely, would pay.



16 Jan 2016 00:45:23
Just heard seen our new DF is on his way up, thee that has faith!



16 Jan 2016 07:40:40
I think sending out Hardie presents him with an opportunity to score goals at professional level with much less pressure than playing for us. If he got a run of 5 games with us and didn't score he would be rubbish and not rangers quality to most fans. He will also get more game time in all honesty.



16 Jan 2016 07:56:44
Patersons good, can play a few positions but I don't he would be cheap.



17 Jan 2016 00:16:59
Assuming that we make the planned signings and Warburton has indicated that we might be signing three players rather than two then sending Hardie out on loan to a good quality Championship team could be a very positive move since his goals could help us widen our current advantage in the league. If he was at someone like, for example QotS then he could put a dent in both Falkirk and Hibernian's points tally.



15 Jan 2016 21:01:39
we are still needing a striker?

we already have one Hardie's the name but of course he's too young and inexperienced.
Who remembers the name Derek Johnstone? well how old was he when given some first team time to shine? oh yes 16.
The boy has only been given a few minutes here and there. not even enough time to get warmed up properly.
For Gods sake give the lad a break and boost his confidence too, play him up front beside Waghorn and McKay, and give him enough game time to let us see what he is capable of.



15 Jan 2016 23:34:20
I remember Derek Johnstone but I don't believe that Hardie is in the same league just yet.

He is a good young player with sig efficient potential but Johnstone had everything and could double up as a centre back.



16 Jan 2016 07:57:40
Derek johnstone was built like a frecking tank at 16 tho, you can tell buy looking at hardie he's still to grow a bit out the way.



16 Jan 2016 10:01:03
derek johnstone was an exceptional young player tremendous in the air and hard to -put off the ball hardie needs more experience and needs develop his body weght but i have no doubt warburton will make a player out of him going to airdrie would be good for him.



16 Jan 2016 21:31:14
I wasn't and didn't compare Hardie to Johnstone, I merely mentioned GIVING YOUTH a chance means giving them GAMETIME. that is how we found out just how good Johnstone was!



15 Jan 2016 19:11:51
Diagouraga starts for Brentford tonight against Burnley, so dosent look like he will be joing us any time soon am amfraid.



15 Jan 2016 20:48:17
Just watched the first half and he looks pretty poor, looks slow, lethargic and lazy, but then you can't judge a player after watching him for 45 minutes on the telly. Warburton knows him well and rates him so hopefully he's just having an off night like the rest of his team mates.



15 Jan 2016 21:13:51
I was just about to say the same looks out of sorts really not in the game maybe it is all the talk of transfers he has played 25 games this season. The one thing that gets me watching this game is no Lewis mcleod still after all this time the boy was class and I just wish we could rescue him still you bags of talent and you know that he can play in our team.



15 Jan 2016 21:35:45
Could count on one hand the amount of times he touched the ball. Looks very slow and anyone with pace will just coast past him, must be a better holding player out there surely.



15 Jan 2016 21:50:26
Slow, lethargic, lazy, that's a guy that doesn't want to be
there, said a week ago he will be with us, wait and see.



15 Jan 2016 22:17:24
Looks nothing like the type of player we need. Awful performance.



15 Jan 2016 23:36:13
Maybe his performance mirrors the fact that he wants a move to be with Warburton again. It is easy to say that a player should give his all but I dare say it is not that simple when you really do not want to be there!



16 Jan 2016 00:19:58
I agree with Brian-P i dnt think the guy wants to be there anymore, performance level has dropped dramatically, i watched him on the last brentford game against Middlesbrough and i feel he was exact same as he was tnyt, just didn't give hid 100% tbh.



16 Jan 2016 00:27:06
Maybe it reflects the fact he isn't very good.



16 Jan 2016 01:12:17
I don't think he would have been Brentford's Fans favourite last season if that was the case mate.



16 Jan 2016 07:59:33
One game haha! Plus he doesn't want to be there, his teammate refused play and they haven't had a great year. You obviously haven't seen him play before because he's excactly the player we need. Rangers fans watch a player once and say he's not a good player but watch a Latvian boy on YouTube and think he's God's gift.



16 Jan 2016 08:02:23
That's a guy that's working his ticket out of there. Don't really want a guy with that attitude. What's to stop him doing it up here?



16 Jan 2016 09:36:38
bring back maurice edu for a couple of years.



16 Jan 2016 10:03:11
i thought he had refused to play against burnley.



16 Jan 2016 14:51:29
Cee you have absolutely hit the nail on the head far to many football manager scouts on here, MW knows what he wants and he wants diagouraga and o'halloran so we as fans should support this, it amazes me how many of us are so quick to put players down toumani must be **** because he didn't play well tonight! o'halloran is garbage etc etc but every single one of you nay sayers is desperate to sign an absolute unknown playing sunday league style football in Latvia who may i add wants an absolute fortune in wages, just put your trust in the management and their vision for the future I for one would be over the moon with the signing of o'halloran and diagouraga.



16 Jan 2016 19:31:46
I agree azzlee we should want to sign these players as if Warbs wants them and doesn't get them and this becomes a theme, you can bet he will dis-engage and take Weir and our best players with him = back to square 1. Please no.



16 Jan 2016 23:02:05
Thegers 1986

Maurice Edu do you know it dangerous to sniff glue? What next Tony Vidmar.



15 Jan 2016 13:24:34
Kevin Thomson been released by Dundee. Does anyone think he'd be a useful squad player for us till end of season?
Or maybe he's to injury prone.



15 Jan 2016 13:47:26
I really liked Kevin Thompson when he was at rangers but do u know what, I don't think he would get in our team ahead of holt, haliday, McKay in my opinion.



15 Jan 2016 13:54:24
reported he already has a club lined up although very reminiscent of our business recently with him negotiating his own release, think he would be ok although would much rather pay a fee for diagouraga not a huge fan of old players returning!



15 Jan 2016 13:54:52
Too injury prone and not the way forward. Was a decent player previously for us however was also prone to stupid tackles that put us in a few tricky situations.



15 Jan 2016 14:15:02
Is anybody on same thought as myself, thinking mr stokes wants to go to hibs to save them.



15 Jan 2016 14:25:42
Save them from what?



15 Jan 2016 14:36:20
Save them from us lifting championship watp.



15 Jan 2016 14:50:22
More like stopping than saving.



15 Jan 2016 19:30:08
I'm sure he would keep the medical staff busy maybe use him for training up some young medics. The guy was past it at about the age of 23 no danger he could get a game now.



15 Jan 2016 23:38:27
Sadly, Kevin Thompson, as a result of injury, never reached the level in theme that he could have reached. He is not the answer to our defensive midfield requirements but I hope he can get a club and stay fit for the remainder of his career.



15 Jan 2016 12:10:22
I don't know how people would think we will go up to where we beling and struggle next season, i mean really, who the hell are celtic these days, they ain't exactly hammering these so called wee teams, they're lucky to hold together a winning run, when we get up, used to winning ways and hooefully continually inoroving our squad aswell as new faces brought in, i can't honestly say why we won't be challenging straight away, i'm so excited to be on the verge of regular old firms again, and if deila smith if still in charge over that piggery way, ill be even more convinced they will finish runners up! Our team is on the up and in bloody loving it at long last! WATP.



15 Jan 2016 13:53:55
Got to disagree with you. Celtic don't need to come out of 2nd gear just now, Aberdeen are doing really well and will be a tough challenge if they keep their squad together and improve it. You just need to look back to Gretna for example, kicked every league on their way up, but couldn't do it in the top league before they sadly got liquated.



15 Jan 2016 14:07:16
Yes i do agree that they haven't had to come into top gear, to an extent, what about when they are underperforming and other teams take the lead, or even at 0-0, they have at times needed to play better but haven't and yes i agree with aberdeen improving, with the way it looks just now it could be a 4 horse race next season, hearts can only improve aswell so its a bit exciting having it tough in the premiership, that's when we'll see who has the strength and mentality of champions, hopefully with us coming out on top.



15 Jan 2016 14:52:26
Dazrfc86

4 horse race! Are you mad? There is no way either Aberdeen or Hearts will challenge for the title. We are the only team that can realistically challenge but it will take investment in the team.



15 Jan 2016 16:12:17
Is it not close the now? I thought they were challanging right now.



15 Jan 2016 16:21:19
As in the points are close, a bit more consistency and performences against celtic and either aberdeen or hearts could potentionally win, albeit with strengthening too, since rangers got screwed over and sent down the leagues, how many people instantly thought celtic would hammer everyone and be so many points ahead, are they?



15 Jan 2016 17:08:37
Dazrfc86

Aberdeen and Hearts have no chance of winning the league this year or next and its frankly laughable that you think they might? I would be willing to bet you whatever you like that neither will win the league. Celtic are rotten but they are still winning the league and will do so until we go up get some investment and challenge them. Honestly stop engaging in fantasy football and get real.



15 Jan 2016 17:09:29
Dazrfc86

Since we went down who has won the Premiership?



15 Jan 2016 17:43:46
That isn't my arguement, i'm not saying celtic won't win it, its a cert, but how close it is isn't usual, with it being close the now and if they were to keep momentum then it is possible there could be an upset, if managed correctly either team could do it, can't you see that? I obv know celtic will win the league but to have it so tight is better than the usual easy titles that is all i'm saying.



15 Jan 2016 17:47:55
You can't get real and realise that they are breathing down celtics neck and we all know that deila doesn't handle pressure well, there's potential for an upset and i hope it bloody happens, that mob should have it wrapped up already, which brings me back to why i posted in the first place, when we're back up it isn't going to be as hard as we expect, although we will need some strengthening.



15 Jan 2016 19:42:23
We will win the league next year the dafties from the other teams are blinded by their hatred of us they think we are done they are using the form of the other teams that have came up we are nothing to do with them we are down there through totally different circumstances to others that have went before they go on about how celtic have a big squad for the season as hearts and Aberdeen and the likes will fade away they forget we are the biggest team in the country when we are up we will have a squad to get through the season with a team for Europe and when we are in Europe normal service will resume with us being the only ones to add to the nations coefficiency the spfl is shockingly bad in standard the championship is not far behind if it is behind. Don't worry about how we will fair in the top flight the rest of the top flight needs to worry about how we are going to run riot. Celtic, prepare to be pumped!



15 Jan 2016 22:11:41
Aberdeen have had every chance to challenge for the SPL
Just looks like they don't have the bottle,
Let's enjoy our journey and start thinking about them next season .



15 Jan 2016 23:43:02
Aberdeen have had the opportunity this season but don't have the bottle and that raises questions about their manager as much as their team. Hearts have potential but again blow hot and cold. Celtic do not have a good team but they are the best of a bad lot and I suspect that, assuming we are promoted this season, then they will invest significantly to ensure that they have the better players.

There is little doubt in my mind that we will have the better manager but we will still need to bring in a couple of top quality players and I would have liked to see the two young lads that we have signed on pre contracts signed now so that they had six months to knit together with the rest of the squad.



16 Jan 2016 00:37:02
Celtic are miles ahead of either the jambo's or the sheep fanciers. The have almost twice the goal difference, they have a bigger squad with better players. Even having a joke manager won't stop them. The mighty dons had a couple of weeks at the top of the league and went into freefall. One thing to chase. The only team going to stop 10 in a row is us. And we won't do it offering below market value for potential transfer targets. We need to stop the free scouting for everyone else and start being serious about this.



15 Jan 2016 11:03:39
I think you need to stop reading so much into our board guys and girls.

For those of use that pay attention, MW is a man of principals, he does things his ways. He likes finding hidden gems, he likes the haggle and tic tac toe of trying to sign players and bring in the right people.

I think he get self satisfaction of building a team for pennies rather than spending all sorts of cash. He is a man of integrity and does things his way.

He was an attractive manager for what reason? Drives on youth, picks out gems, builds team with a solid British Core, does not wish to spend millions, utilises loan market, and does not waste or toss around cash, this is why he got the job.

Forget about us spending Millions on players, it is not MW style so get off the boards back and back the HAT!

As for the board, we hear nothing about them and that is the way I like it, the club is in safe hands, it is being cleared up cleaned up, built up, going about there business under the radar and without being on the front page, the way it should be!



15 Jan 2016 12:53:10
Good post mate, so good to read positives about our management team, our squad, and the board, more of the same fellow Bears.



15 Jan 2016 13:01:26
If we don't win Premiership we will be runners up, sick of hearing that we'll be battling in the middle of the table, and miby struggle for a top 4 finish next season, i think personally that if we play to our potential, we'll beat that mob and every1 else around them.



15 Jan 2016 13:49:26
WhatATeam

What do you base your argument on?



15 Jan 2016 13:53:21
That's a positive post by u m3lvo, your usually not that positive lol, but I liked your post.



15 Jan 2016 19:02:02
the only problem I have with this is Warburton has identified two players who are important players according to him so the man should be backed in the transfer considering king promised he would back the manager if he came to him with players than add value on and off the pitch the boy down south is easily worth 1 million ohalloran not sure bout that one but if Warburton wants him then i trust his judgement.



15 Jan 2016 20:53:36
Craigs8688 Warburton has actually came out himself and says we won't be getting held to ransom. He also says if he doesn't get a good price on the two he is bidding for he will move on and has other targets. I honestly think if he gave the go ahead the board would over spend to get there man because they trust him 100%.
Warburtons previous career has made him put a value on everything and if he isn't getting that he moves on. I wish all our previous managers had the same idea.
I'm confident we will be in good shape come the end of Jan, everything this new regime has done has been positive to the club in my opinion, I can't see any negativity at all. Bring on Celtic next year, notice how the trolls from the other side are slowly disappearing, funny that.



15 Jan 2016 23:45:28
Fair comment recbob.

If McCoist had followed those principals then I doubt that many of those that arrived at Ibrox would have got close to the Club. They were not value for money, even as free transfers.



15 Jan 2016 09:59:18
My concern we have players and a
Manager talking about playing
In Europe and in my own opinion
They are maybe just good enough to compete in the mid table next season
Of course unless we do get some hidden gems in either this window
Or next.



15 Jan 2016 10:21:03
A mid table team, really? Easy top 4 team, most likely 2nd spot to be honest.



15 Jan 2016 10:27:41
Admittedly we are a few players short, but that is a very poor spfl, no one is a standout, celtic are top but aren't setting the heather alight, all teams are capable of beating each other, with the exception of Dundee Utd who couldn't beat eggs (long may that continue) . It will be very hard next year, assuming we are where we all expect to be, MW and DW will with the boards backing have a squad good enough to have a right good go, couple that fingers crossed Ronny is still in charge across the city we'll be fine.



15 Jan 2016 12:05:19
Why shouldn't we be aiming for Europe!
They should all be aiming for it!
Mid-table is a bit harsh. We have this and another window before our team needs to be SPL ready. We aren't that far off.
You also need to remember even if we get into Europe at first attempt we have 4 transfer windows before we would need a team to compete there!



15 Jan 2016 14:21:21
I know the league is crap, but fans shouldn't get to carried away, st. johnstone ripped us wide open in the league cup because that's the way we play our football now, which is superb btw, but I just think unless we spend maybe between 3 and 5 million on players this summer, it might take us a season to get used to premiere football again, ie going to aberdeen, hearts, Celtic, week in week out, it might take us a season just to find our feet, it's been a long 4 yrs playing all over Scotland, but if we go up, the hard work starts in the summer, then it's over to u mr. chairman.



15 Jan 2016 09:55:51
Naismith seems to be out in the cold at Everton. I know the finances are out of reach but what a brilliant foil he would be for Waghorn! Maybe he'll come back and play for us with much reduced wages lol!



15 Jan 2016 10:06:13
Steven naismith, NO THANKS! He made his bed and he sure as hell can lie in it, the things him and whittaker said and did when we went into administration was shocking imo, my take on naismith is very good player but in my eyes never welcome back at the 'brox!



15 Jan 2016 10:24:06
Totally agree on Naismith, slimy little toad.



15 Jan 2016 10:27:20
The phrase cut off your nose to spite your face springs to mind warburtonthefifteenth. Bitterness won't help our current plight. You need to remember the position some players were placed in when the club went bust - it was their livelihood after all!



15 Jan 2016 11:19:48
Naismith really? Did I not see some where Norwich are willing to pay 8 million for him we are struggling to buy 2 players for 1 million. So doubtful.



15 Jan 2016 11:20:08
Steven naismith is a top quality player, the everton fans love him he will get another prem club unfortunately.



15 Jan 2016 13:52:41
Doiger

Sorry but both Warburtonthefifteenth and stuzo are right about him. He should never be welcomed back. Also Everton looking for £8m for him that brings an end to any discussion.



15 Jan 2016 19:18:46
Doiger, what you and a few others don't get regarding naismith is this, from a personal point of view I never and wouldn't have grudged him his move when we went into administration, it was the way he done it whereas he could have stayed and got us some sort of fee no matter how small, he couldn't wait to jump when administration was announced, after all Doiger we stuck by him TWICE and paid all his medical fees when he had his two major injuries, hope that answers your cut of your nose to spite your face comment my friend.



15 Jan 2016 08:46:48
Morning guys,
You just wonder if DK had originally promised MW money to spend when he joined the club, but it seems to me now that DK is dragging his heels, I just hope that MW doesn't become frustrated with the lack of funds to build his team that he is then lured away to another team who are willing to dip into their pockets. At the same time you don't want Rangers held to ransom, but this WAR CHEST that was promised has never materialised!

Thoughts?



15 Jan 2016 09:23:46
I personally believe that Ashley has us by the short and curlies. I said at the time that there would be financial booty traps left by the last mob. This has a long way to run yet. Whether King will invest £? remains to be seen. Are we better off than we were with the last lot, definitely in my opinion. Let's see how successful the selling of unlicensed goods is. We do not have the funds, but as fans we are every bit as stubborn as Ashley. His ego will always get in the way, but like every one who has walked this planet, he will be dust one day.



15 Jan 2016 09:26:46
Exactly PB. You've hit the nail right I the head there. I certainly don't want to go down the same old route as before where spending is concerned however, we're not talking millions here, just enough to see us over the line. If The Hat wants O H, then surely 600K isn't being held to ransome, once again, they're not asking a couple of million, just pay it.
According to Dave, the millions will be spent next year in pursuit of the league title and then our inevitable foray into Europe.
I trust Dave a he'll of a lot more than anything we've had recently but it's now time for him to back up all his talk with the cold hard cash.



15 Jan 2016 09:39:38
We have got to trust the board money will be spent in summer if we are back in SPL i wouldn't splash the cash in the league we are in and we have a squad more than capable of winning this league . the board are having to sort out a massive mess left by the rats and no doubt are finding new stuff coming out every day and with constant court cases do we really think its wise to just go oh is that how much you want aye here take it . however while i trust the board i would like a wee bit more transparancy and for them to come out and tell us their wider plans for future.



15 Jan 2016 09:59:44
Cuillin, do you think selling the unlicenced goods will pay for transfer fees?



15 Jan 2016 10:04:29
I agree with what you say bigt as well re having enough to see us get promotion. The point is though, Rangers are pursuing these guys so obviously want to sign them. The amounts being touted aren't mega millions so why look like penny pinchers. They are players for the future so just pay the money and be done with it.



15 Jan 2016 10:16:14
So many contradictions going on. " Our squad is already good enough and if we win the league ", " let's spend but not too much ", the list runs.

Buying players in the past did not cause our liquidation. What's too much for a player? We all know we're fooling ourselves as if the money was our own and expect to land bargains. Well if they are then we're really admitting they're worth more. We say Waghorn and Tavernier are worth 10 X what we paid for and they probably are, or more. Did Rangers make them 10 X better players? That's stretching it a bit. Are O'Halloran and Diagouraga worth what their clubs are asking? They are to them. Both would be good and reasonable buys if we pay close to what's being asked. Why should I be unhappy if we sign them at a fair price to buyers and sellers?



15 Jan 2016 13:53:01
Sounezz, like I said, let's see how successful it could be. I was not implying that it would pay transfer fees. It could, with enough people supporting it, be a significant boost to the club's coffers if as stated money goes towards the club. The more Ashley digs his heels in, maybe more and more people will stop buying direct. It may dwindle away, but give it a chance.



15 Jan 2016 15:27:26
Ok Cuillin. Got you mate.



15 Jan 2016 05:30:07
Is it just me or is any fans out there starting to wonder if we have a budget for players like Dave King said ie overspend, whatever it takes, first and foremost I'm a king and board fan, they have been superb since they kicked that other mob out, but promises were made and if we don't have money until we do a share issue, then let the fans know and we will back them. WATP.



15 Jan 2016 18:40:18
why do we have to spend loads of money to keep folk happy. as long as there is gradual improvements to the team, stadium and youth i'm happy.

maybe we are keeping a low profile so that when we do go for a player clubs are not slapping inflated prices on players just because we are rangers.

i think its absolutly the best practice to get players as low as possible. imagine waggy's price tag if he scores regularly in spfl and europe signed for 200k and sold for millions. it has the makings of a great business model. and you could name a fair few current players with the potential to be sold on for massive profits waggy just as an example.



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