Rangers Banter Archive December 15 2015

 

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15 Dec 2015 21:55:30
Given the players who could be set for a departure in the summer, how many players will we need to bring in to strengthen the squad for the top division? How many players do we have have for next season that aren't currently on loan or could leave in the summer?

GK - Foderingham/Kelly

DF - Keirnan/Wilson

DF - Tavernier/Wallace

MF - Halliday/Holt/Thompson/Mckay

ST - Miller/Hardie/Waghorn

Obviously there will be other loan signings made in the summer and some permanent moves also.

By the looks of the squad though, as many as ten players could be required in the summer.



16 Dec 2015 08:23:20
Yeah you could be right however think 2 or 3 players will be signed in January. However can't see many of any of the players out of contract getting another one and think there is maybe about 6 of them. Still a lot of work to be done not only to win league but also build a team to challenge in the premiership.



16 Dec 2015 11:45:07
The amount of numbers we brought in this season is immense and all of them have made an impact.

On the other hand it is becoming evident with every game that they are a little exhausted and need reinforcements in order for some players to recharge the batteries.

Most would say you can't bring in too many players in January because it would upset the harmony of the squad. Not asking for five or six players to go straight into the first team in January. Just three or four who can help with the depth of the squad and add much needed quality in certain areas.



16 Dec 2015 14:55:51
Thorn76

Sorry but can't buy into this exhausted nonsense. These players are professionals and should be at their peak fitness. Playing games is what they are training for and to say they are tired is just a lame excuse. Strange how the teams that win the World Cup and Euro championship finals never complain about exhaustion.



16 Dec 2015 15:31:10
It really isn't nonsense.

What it is is simple fact.

Players need to be rotated. James Tavernier, Rob Keirnan, Lee Wallace, Martyn Waghorn, Andy Halliday, Wes Foderingham and Barry McKay have played almost if not every game this season and we're about half way through.

Nathan Oduwa has been in and out as has Danny Wilson, Kenny Miller, Gedion Zelalem and Dominic Ball whilst Clark, Shiels and Law have often come off the bench.

Not only do we not have the numbers to really cope with a long season in the championship, we don't have the quality coming off the bench. It's the same players pretty much every game with one change here and there.
The squad simply isn't strong enough just now.



16 Dec 2015 20:05:08
Running around for 90 mins once a week isn't exactly exhausting. You never hear referees or linesman complaining and they dint get to stop unlike players.



16 Dec 2015 20:49:12
albertz, players do get physically tired no matter if you pay them a grand a week or 30,000 a week, its a fact, ibrox is a massive pitch and playing the way we do is undeniably tiring, unless of course you have done it.



16 Dec 2015 21:41:42
Albertz, yip I agree mate, people only need to look at the andy murrays of this wee country of ours, andy runs around using every muscle in his body for 4 sometimes 5 hours a t a time in the searing heat, no probs to him, no complaining from him or the other tennis player they put in harder shifts every day on the practice courts.



17 Dec 2015 09:51:04
Davie Weir played over 60 games at 38 in the season we went to Manchester. No problem for him. These boys are mostly in their early 20s. If they are "exhausted" there's something wrong.



15 Dec 2015 10:57:54
I am still confident that we will be going up this season automatically. no disrespect to anyone else we are just a better team and set up.

Now hypothetically of those out of contracts and those on trial and strongly linked in January I'd like to see -

Nicky Law - Replace by Josh Windass
Dean Shiels - Given a new contract
Nicky Clark - Replaced by Gutkovskis
David Templeton - If not playing by the summer let him go!

Add Matt Crooks to this and we have a stronger squad all over as Halliday is free to move forward.

Then in Summer you replace the 3 loanees with some more quality and some support for our full backs!



15 Dec 2015 12:46:14
Id like to see what temps can offer but he's on high wages and unless he's willing to half them don't think its worth keeping him.



15 Dec 2015 13:35:44
I agree bluegenius,

I think Temps has had his time, he has done nothing of any note in his time at Rangers to justify his extraordinarily high wage.



15 Dec 2015 15:13:10
Feel sorry for Templeton he has had no luck injury wise and there is a great player in there. Would be tempted to
Offer him a 1 year deal. However he would need to be playing 2nd half of the season.



15 Dec 2015 18:43:17
Don't know if the guy will ever be fit again Biffo. I must admit I am a fan of his when he plays and I think he and Barrie McKay would run riot in this division. Hope I'm wrong but I have a feeling he may never regain full fitness. Must be frustrating as hell for MW because he'll know just how much Temps could bring to the team if fully fit. A real shame.



15 Dec 2015 18:43:27
I think we are missing Nicky law to be honest, he is a decent all round midfielder. Templeton is an arrogant lazy so and so, and dean shiels is a great player. At least if warburton doesn't fancy them it should free up some amount of wages for new players.



15 Dec 2015 14:45:45
Blue genius sounds okay to me, as regards temps, I'd imagine he would take a big big cut in wages as nobody has seen him play in a long time, if injury free offer him a years extension to prove his worth, by the time the years up we should be in a stronger position financially to offer him a wage rise if he deserves it.



16 Dec 2015 00:10:56
Tempelton has done nothing since he signed for the club, at a much lower level than we will (hopefully) be playing at next season. Can not see why anyone would think its worth extending his contract. Have to agree with the above lazy and arrogant comment- that's his problem as he has wasted his natural talent.

Nicky clark had one good season at queens and got his dream move. Has scored the odd goal but again madness to even consider giving him a deal. I think he is quite a likeable guy but he's not good enough no matter how hard he tries.



16 Dec 2015 11:30:18
Have u ever met David Templeton? How is he arrogant and lazy? The boy has been tremendously unlucky with injuries, it would take a toll on anybody.



16 Dec 2015 16:39:19
I would move on bell, law, templeton. i would recal gasparrato for defensive cover. in sheilds i would look at market and decide could we get better at moment. for me when he comes in he's direct so me personally i'd keep him. would also recall young midfield boy. can't recall his name right now . hopefully sign this latvian boy and get experienced holding midfielder in. time will tell this. come the end of january we will really see are we on the bones of our arse or not.



18 Dec 2015 12:57:39
Yes I have met him, have a common friend with him. And even he says that if he was chocolate he would eat himself.

I also am good friends with a hearts youth coach of many years, he is even more scathing of him.



 
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