Rangers Banter Archive December 15 2014

15 Dec 2014 21:45:50
Coisty hands in notice because so many long standing servants to the club lost their jobs after they were told they wouldn't but he has tendered it with his full notice period of 12 months earning 750k he would be able to pay all of their wages off that. I have never really slated him that bad before but if he doesn't want to walk away a villain he should walk away for free as his performance has been terrible this season & any other manager in his position with the team & money we spend would have already been sacked.

Hand another letter in Coisty and leave immediately whilst you are a legend!

Campo. I will start by saying ally will never be a football coach, but cg gave him his contract, he took a 50p/c wage cut after the board agreed no more staff pay offs, unfortunately the board never kept there word, thus ally tendered his notice. although he should have been sacked 2year ago, I hope he doesn't take any hush money, and I don't think he will, I think he is trying to do as much damage to the board as he can on his way out.

1. Are you sure he took a 50% wage cut?

Maybe we'll find out the actual wage cut he took very shortly. unless he decides to walk away tomorrow.

15 Dec 2014 20:51:20
These new charges will mean nothing. Ashley will increase his stake to 30% after getting clearance from the SFA.

He will appoint a new manager that will not have any previous connections with the club but one he can use as a puppet. Then we will all give in and head back to games and the club we know will be lost forever under a cloud branded with Sports Direct.

Unless we continue to protest. Come together and stand in front of the gates and stop MA from walking inside. Make his life hell until he realises it's not worth it and is forced to sell.

I will not support or be part of a Rangers run by crooks with no respect for history and tradition of a truly great club. This will be it for me if Ashley increases his stake. I will be an lover of the game but not a supporter of the Sports Direct Rangers.

We must not let this happen.

Boyd1 what planet are u on your statement we must not let this happen this has all happened because of a boycott started by king and his disciples the present board are not resposible for green/whyte robbers by appointment of loyds t s b or bank of scotland dinsdale and doug have no where to go other than ashley the only money visible with kings offer was mr lethams so where do they go but at least ashley should be given a chance he at least make us selfsufficient and profitable which he needs for his investment to be recouped

Where were we with murray metals?

15 Dec 2014 22:31:32
am prity sure sandy an james had a other offer on the table from Kennedy
so they could have turned to him the next manager will be a yes man that is a guarantee if Ashley takes bigger stake in club as things stand with Ashley he has tain more money out the club than he has put in I ask the question why does he deserve a chance from the supporters

15 Dec 2014 22:25:25
How is Ashley a crook??

16 Dec 2014 12:42:39
Wot a lot. Of nonsense, Ashley is a successful businessman, not a crook m8

No you're right blindly follow anyone put in front of you again. Seems to have worked before with Whyte and Green.

It's upsetting to see how many fans will still follow the clear wrong choice.

15 Dec 2014 19:03:59
So by all accounts ally will be away by midweek and new manager in!

Ashley will just ignore the spfl. They need him more than he needs their stupid rules. If rangers go in to admin again, scottish football is finished, so. . .

Is this the low point?

New manager in, get rid of deadwood and start as we should have done 3 years ago, playing win youth and within our budget.

Not a disaster not to win league but a new man hold guarantee promotion via play offs.

It's not just the spfl, is
It Not a Eufa FIFA ruling

{Ed039's Note - No, UEFA rules state you can own shareholdings in different clubs, it would just mean they both wouldnt be able to play in Europe in the same year)

OP: Does your contempt for Scottish footbal know no bounds.
It seems to me that you think it's okay to break the rules because the club is too big and important. That point of view proved to be a disaster the last time around.

Ok cheers ed, I knew there is a conflict of interest, but there is every chance Newcastle & rangers could be in Europa league together, what would happen then?
I know a lot of support don't like Ashley but is he not exactly what rangers need at this moment in time, a good business man, with money behind him

{Ed039's Note - Even if both sides qualify for the 2 different competitions then only 1 would still be allowed to enter, for example, if Rangers qualify for the Champions League and Newcastle the Europe League then the highest ranked side would only be allowed entry because if eliminated at certain points of the competition in the Champions League (ie, the final playoff round and by finishing 3rd in the group phases) then both teams would have the potential to be in the same competition and that is forbidden by UEFA)

That's it ed, say both qualified for Europa, then what one pulls out, everything surrounding Rangers is just wrong, and I think this is the biggest problem with Ashley taking control

{Ed039's Note - the team with the highest ranking would qualify)

15 Dec 2014 17:46:18
Ashley has some sort of end game going on at present what it is who knows?
Can he take the fans with him and bring them back who knows?
But he must think he can otherwise he's investing in a dead duck which he doesn't make a habit of,
I'm not an Ashley lover at all I think he'll rip sole out of our club but he seems to think its worth investing in, WHY?.

Wish the u o f clowns could recognise that they are convinced he wants to turn ibrox into luxury houses imbeciles

Gordy82 mike Ashley will need to make a statement, or one of his lot will need to make a statement, they will need to tell us his plans, as he is not gaining any support by staying silent will we hear it at the agm, I hope so for the sake of my sanity.

15 Dec 2014 17:45:01
S. f. a. Charge rangers fc and mike Ashley over dual ownership

15 Dec 2014 15:15:56
The only way I can see of McCoist regaining with our support is to forfeit the bulk of the £0. 75million in lieu of any confidentiality agreement. This would enable him to sign a book deal covering the last 5years and you could imagine what that would be worth. He could go further and donate to the staff paid off in the latest cull. It would not gain him anything as the manager he was not, but show him to be a worthy man.

Ally will do both take the money and write a book and anything else he can get his greedy paws on I hear there could also be a buy back clause with the shares

15 Dec 2014 14:58:32
Well finally today we see what mccoist means by resigning, staying on as long as he possibly can for the maximum amount of financial damage to Rangers as possible and at the full salary of 750000 pounds, with the bonus we get to suffer his pathetic team selection and lack of tactical nous for not only this season but the start of next aswell! FFS! That translates as 2 seasons he will keep us in the championship as he can only get worse the longer he stays. We have to put up with his clueless mug staring dumbfounded with his arms folded at side of pitch another ****ing YEAR. He the most selfish greedy and disgusting man to ever represent Rangers as a "manager" and I use that term very loosely.

It is costing us 750000 to have him there destroying our team morale and every last fragment of footballing confidence this squad has left it makes much more sense to swallow the loss and bin him plus the other two 'stooges' and at least give another man that knows how to manage a chance at rebuilding the team for next seasons attempt at promotion.

The fact a Rangers squad on the level of money that has been laid out is actually 12 points (any day now) behind a Hearts team built on youth and shoestring finance is a disgrace and he should already have been sacked for that and the Alloa game.

How much longer do we have to put up with his destroying of Rangers FC? I understand now exactly why he had that stupid smile on his face before the QoS game and after it, he is 100% aware of what he is doing and in my honest opinion I think now he is actually saying if I am going down I am taking Rangers down with me

Sick fed up with mccoist and can't even look at his face now without a burning rage as that's how bad most genuine intelligent Rangers fans feel now about him. george

George

Sorry but don't agree with your personal attack on our manager. Ally has always had the clubs interests at heart and I am sure that his actions at present are born out of frustration - perhaps after being told players will be sold in January! but more importantly to bring matters to ahead.
The club cannot afford to pay him off and perhaps he's had a sniff of admin round the corner.
Whatever his intentions he's a true blue a rangers legend and I would personally trust him before anyone on the board.
I know the football hasn't been great and results have dropped off, but whatever happened to supporting the team and manager. Look at big Sam at west ham or pardew at Newcastle. We were always going to have one tricky season - or perhaps your ignorance by underestimating the championship is the real issue - and before you start don't give me the - we should have played kids argument - what a load if ba**s that is.
Perhaps you should concentrate your attacks on the real villains of the piece and help get rid of the board. Boycott every match and don't purchase any merchandise until we drive these parasites from our club.
admin would be the best solution - start again and make sure we have the right people in place. Finally do you think current board would sell out prior to admin - you bet your life they would they aren't going to risk accepting 10p in the £.
Finally I would ask all fans not to take your frustration out on the manager - the real issue here is the board. One thing I will give credit to Celtic fans on is their ability to stick together and get things done. We are to busy arguing amongst ourselves and blaming the manager. Did he waste 70m - is it his fault we don't have enough working capital. Is it his fault we are getting hands out from ashley. Will it be his faulty when they sell our best players in January to survive until next season. NO

Admin is the best option has been mentioned numerous times, Do you honestly think screwing everyone over & debt dumping owing probably millions once again ( déjà vu) is acceptable???Have we no dignity left, I personally think it's shocking & once more blackens rangers name & reputation. We have a manager who has took millions from the club, once a legend, now a parasiteHe will take a pay off this week of a few hundred grand & think he can leave with his head held high ( Did he not say he would manage for nothing at one point?He has jumped into bed with every con man & spiv who have been evolved since this debacle began), We will have someone temporary on the touchline for the next few weeks, as the AGM is looming & could be a bad stormy heated night of arguments. counter arguments & trying too justify the shambles we now have become. Whoever ends up in charge (Butcher,! McColl are favourites, McInnes outside chance) will have 1 hell of a task taking on the job. How on earth do you sell the job as appealing? When from 1 day too the next nobody has a bloody clue what's happening. I gie up, rant over!!!!!

I have sat and watched for 2. 5 years whilst mccoist and the other 2 stooges have pocketed 3million pounds in wages/bonuses.

This is not a personal attack on mccoist it is an attack on what he has allowed to happen by backing every con man from Whyte to Green and Mather plus recently laughing it up with the Easfdales. The only reason he ever fell out with Whyte was just prior to us going into Admin superswally went in to see Whyte with a 10 man transfer target lit and left with his tail between his legs and all upset as he couldn't waste even more of Rangers cash on needless transfers.

He really does not care about our football club if he remotely gave a damn he could have volunteered to take a 50% actual, not deferred, pay cut, the only reason he took the deferred cut was he was outed in the accounts how much he was bleeding us dry for to win the diddy leagues we could have won with the kids and a few signings, despite what mccoist claims. .

All these factors and the complete absence of any talent whatsoever as a manager make it a no brainer to slaughter him he is a total mercenary that would happily see us in a 2nd admin by laying out 10million pounds if someone was r******* enough to hand him that amount of money, trust me he would happily blow every last penny regardless of how it left Rangers financially.

You only need to add up mccoists salary plus the 2 diddies with him and add up the TOTAL salaries of all the people being sacked by Rangers to cut costs to see how little he actually cares! mccoist could easily have taken a 20% wage cut to save ALL their jobs simple but no he announces a resignation offer that awards him a pay increase while he is there for 12 more months of dire punt the long ball football.

So gers09 when you accuse me of a personal attack on our supermanager mccoist try to add up all the disgusting things he has allowed to happen and backed up till this season and maybe you can take your superally rose tinted glasses off and realise he is as bad as Green and Whyte in all this mess, worse as he was a hero to many of us. WAS!. . george

Sad bear, feel your pain. I don't think admin is acceptable however is the only way to rid our club of the parasites.
Mccoist has had a poor spell as manager but we are taking out our frustration on him and not the board. What about chief execs taking 300000 bonus for winning the league! How many people have we had to pay off?

Our club has been mismanaged and it's about time we acted together. We should be banging the doors of the sfa for help / guidance on what we can do.
Just heard ashley and rangers being charged by sfa - about time!

OP:You're right about the villians on the board, but for all the money wasted on wages etc, the football side should be a welcomed escape from all that pi*h. So for me McCoist has short changed us just as much as they have. No excuses.

George I agree with most of your points, but why the Easdales? Everything I look at they only subscribe with little or no return. Green's gang, yes and if you note any of my posts I honestly believe murray is up to his armpits in it, but apart from holding voting control what have they really done against us? If you could enlighten me I would appreciate it.

Billy a lot of us oppose them because of the voting thing (proxy)because it was a proxy vote that stopped dave king getting involved, I wonder why they will not let us know who they are, could it be it would cause a revolt, there is something far wrong when the won't let us know there identity imo

George123, I understand that but what has King done, apart from be disruptive and, in my opinion, still continues to put us into administration again. Administration 2, imo, would be the ultimate finish for us.

Billy I know you don't like the thought of king getting in, but what has king done to put us into a second addmin, if we go into addmin again it is down to the current board, if Ashley never got involved we would be back in addmin imho

George123, The current board is ineffective, yes, but the majority of the theft has taken place by others. The main areas of concern are the ' un-named investors' and the Easdale's proxy. All Ashley is doing, in my opinion, is turn us from our current state to a more efficient outfit and therefore make himself a bundle. This compares with previous regimes playing off the in-efficiency of the set-up they put together.
Again I say King has not put anything into our club and continues to cause disruption at every turn. His aim has always been a second administration and I think that will finish us. However, I believe we have genuine Ranger's men that are prepared to back their talk with cash. Recently, Mr Letham has shown his intent and should be a key factor in any fans' shareholding. My fear is having someone co-ordinate us to achieve a greater say, but have no doubts there are sufficient good honest Ranger's men out there.
And King's 'offer' of £16m. , if analysed was pathetic.

George
You make some valid points however, when was the last time you told your boss what to do. You can't blame McCoist for attempting to work alongside his boss. Re his coaching ability, has one back to back championships and until recently was performing - his sole remit has been to get rangers back to the premiership and that could still happen! - we are not the team of 10 years ago. Wake up and smell the coffee.
How many coaching badges do you have as they say or please list your medals. Or do you let your fingers do the tackling!
I find your accusation and personal attacks on McCoist nauseating. Why aren't you being as vile to a board who have ripped the sole from our club?
These monsters have got away with murder and why - because individuals like you mange to deflect the real issues.
Finally your guilt trip re staff is a low blow. How many of the under performing players have offered to reduce their wages to help out. how many of the consultants have offered to help yet it's all mccoists fault.

{Ed039's Note - Buddy, I think you will find George has been extremely critical of the board as well, just look through the last 12 months posts from the man)

Billy I know there are rich supporters wanting to get involved, but I can't see Ashley letting this happen, I would prefer people like king, McColl, Latham, because we know they have the clubs best interest at heart, none of them needs to look for wages, but Ashley knows how much his company could earn off a powerful rangers team. I don't think we have much option now that fat mike is involved.

15 Dec 2014 13:56:26
Media reports this morning put former West Brom manager Steve Clarke and ex-Rangers player Rino Gattuso as the favourites to replace McCoist.

The media are guessing as much as we are. Where is the money coming from to pay off McCoist, McDowall, Durrant et al?

They can pay there wages every month for a year they don't need a pot of gold next friday

{Ed039's Note - True, but where does the money come from to pay them for 12 months as well as a new gaffer?)

Well ed I am led to believe there bonuses on top of the coaching staffs wages kenny macdowall and durrant don't have contracts like macoists that's written in stone also they can make two appointments instead of three ant stage the new teams payments starting low and rising after macoists departure even we jimmy bell is on a grand aweek and they will be casualities amongst the high end players lee maculloch on £13k a week etc etc there are many ways of skinning a cat but we must have the right men certainly not terry butcher or billy davis

15 Dec 2014 11:34:40
Hi Bears

Now we get to the reason for Ally's resignation, the greedy ***** wage goes back to 750 k. Ally wants his lot before he leaves. Rangers man my ar## the real Rangers men are the guys who buy season tickets or mathday tickets and strips ect. It costs them money its doesn't make them it!

Of course it doesn't suit the board to give out those details. Ally leaving will not sort out the shambles at Ibrox. Try looking at the bigger picture.

It will help when we get a far better manager on a third of the money, I wonder what Ronnie is on at Celtic, I bet it's not 15000 a week.

Bigger picture or not it will be as they say a starter for ten if we were playig good football and winning games it would be a good place to start after all r f c stands for rangers football club when last did we play football?

15 Dec 2014 10:15:59
What will the boycotters do after the 22nd, crichtons gone ally and his backroom will be gone and reports suggest somers will go is this a clear out? What will the boycotters do?
r. f

15 Dec 2014 11:58:39
who ever is pulling the strings at rangers are at it again trying comfuse the fans before the agm by yet a again changing the look of the board they will say we are new we need time like wallace got at last agm look where that has got us untill who ever pulling the strings makes there plans clear to the fans and able to show the have the funds needed there will be 0 trust between fans and board just a thought with a lot players out contract upcoming summer maybe mccoist was told u will not be able to sign any them back up so that why he handed in notice

Craig it was maybe because he got told to re sign them he is leaving lol

15 Dec 2014 09:33:02
The cancerous McCoist will apparently work his 12 months notice, I genuinely hope this 12 months is absolute hell for McCoist and co, they deserve to be booed for 90 minutes of every game after this blackmail

15 Dec 2014 10:09:02
He gets a wage rise to. Lol. Jesus. Wot is going on.

15 Dec 2014 10:10:08
Bad, bad choice of words smokey my dad has recently had a lung moved due to cancer and has now been diagnosed with prostate cancer. now back to mccoist he has forced the issue with the board due to cowardly whispers against him knowing that him handing in his notice would trigger a clause putting his wages back up thus forcing there hand. He will be gone after Wed with a pay off but much, much less than people think.
r. f

Another day another chance for everyone to laugh at Rangers, when is this all going to end, you just couldn't make it up. r. f hope your dad gets well soon mate, emotion's are running high among all Rangers fans and some people say things that maybe born out of pure frustration, the word's I had for mccoist this morning you couldn't print mate, but I agree with smokey bear that I hope all Rangers fans give mccoist what for.

He will be out in the very near future. The 'extra' pay is part of his leaving the club. This is just my opinion of course. Some people have been desperate to get rid of him, you should now be happy. Unfortunately the real problem is not going away.

Sorry to hear about your dad don't think smokey meant anything by it. I think parasite would have been a better choice of word. he obviously knew about the clause and has basically said "over to you Claude"the board know fine well his position is now untenable and will have to reach a amicable pay off. well done ally you have played a blinder. in your 3 1/2. Years in charge you have made us the worst team in history and what makes it worse is you had a decent budget to do it. 👏👏👏👏👏

15 Dec 2014 11:08:09
Good luck to ure dad r f. Puts all this into perspective.

BigCol, good point's mate, especially about his budget, I now wonder what it's going to cost a new manager to rebuild the mess that mccoist has created and (Hopefully fingers crossed) has left behind.

Remember guys, Super Ally never read his contract before signing so he was probably unaware that his resignation would trigger any pay rise.

Seriously the shoogley peg his jaiket is hanging on looks likely to break off completely in the next few days.

Good riddance.

Lost one of my brothers Xmas 2010 to lung cancer. Hope your da will be OK.

Rf. please accept my sincere apologies, it was a thoughless thing to say. l hope your dad will be ok.

Gkk. l apologise for my bad choice of words. l am sorry for your loss.

Nice one smokey bear

14 Dec 2014 23:28:18
Can anyone explain why our captain has remained silent through out most of the things happening, they always seem to trudge out John Daly for back up or the old pals Ferguson Brown or Gorom mixing it with the media I always believed that the captain was the main spokes person after the manager big Jigs appears to be in hiding!