Rangers Banter Archive June 14 2013

14 Jun 2013 14:58:13
Steven Naismith home sick and wants to come back to Rangers. . . . . . . this is the kind of drivel that is being spouted on here. let's stick to facts stop making up lies!.

In other words he has failed to impress down south and now wants to come back here and rip us off.
No thanks.

I wouldn't say he hasn't made it in england, not at all, always impressed me when playing? am I alone in thinking this? as for coming back > what a ridiculous thing to think?

@ 1 I think you will
find the op was being
sarcastic

Why would we want someone back who turned his back in the club in our hour of need? He along with Davis, McGregor and Lafferty should never be welcomed back

@2 hasn't started many games for Everton and think he managed less than 5 goals so I would say his first season hasn't worked out. Before Moyes left he was making noises about bringing in another striker so Naismith would have been further down the pecking order. Maybe Martinez will give him a chance however no matter wha happens don't want him anywhere near Ibrox

He has done OK when in the Everton team, but that Belgium international plays ahead of him Millias, think its spelled. And the big Nigerian striker is back fit, and getting games. So its hard for him to get a game, would like him to move. Maybe go to Hull or something if they would take him or Cardif even on loan.

14 Jun 2013 22:58:47
@4 I dislike naismith too, but fed up with the spin that he 'turned his back on us in our hour of need'. Who else do you know who gave up 3/4 of their wages for a few months to help us out? I didnt, and suspect neither did you.

@4 did he not take a wage cut to save back room staff's jobs? Get the feck over yourselves!

Do you think Naismith would accept £7k a week? Where is all the money coming from, explain please?

@7&8 Part of the agreement for taking his payout is that he negoiated a vastly reduced transfer fee. This means that had Rangers avoided liquidation then he would have left the club for a fraction of his value. By doing this he would earn himself more money making up for the shortfall. By refusing to transfer his contract he then got a bigger signing on fee as Everton didn't need to pay a transfer fee. He also had 2 long spells out with 2 knee injuries and the club (1 of which was down to himself making a shocking tackle against Aberdeen) the club ensured he got the best medical attention and looked after him.

15 Jun 2013 09:53:34
Hey guys an Evertonian here you can have him for free, he is absolutely shocking, and all EFC fans think the same

#4. Bet you're not even vaguely aware of the facts of the situation only Charlie Green's spin. Let the bitterness go, MacGregor, Davis and others were great servants at our club. If they had had happened to be near the end of their careers like Jig and no other club wanted them they'd have stayed on and you'd be calling them heroes.

15 Jun 2013 10:23:25
@10 I don't disagree with the facts you outline, but ultimately agree with @7&8. Its simply unrealistic to expect someone with a certain earnings potential over a short career to "stick by" an employer who has gone bust but is offering much reduced terms on a replacement contract. Naismisth may have negotiated a more favourable exit clause as quid pro quo for agreeing reduced wages, but so what? Do we expect our players to be martyrs, or else label them traitors? Come off it. And we must remember that it was his employer (the club) who had become unable to honour its original contract with him in the first place.

@10 the point I was trying to make was that these players could have signed over to the new company but negotiated release clauses that if any team offered them £500k they could leave. I am certain that all of the players would have still got their moves plus the club would have got much needed revenue. At the time it was uncertain if the club would survive and that money could have been the difference between survival and extinction. These players chose to walk away leaving the club penniless. All these players made a great living out of the club and were well looked after. I don't think it was too much to ask for some loyalty from the players

14 Jun 2013 12:22:10
okay what do you all think of the chance of singing derek riordan? great goal scorer tell me opinons in comments

What does he sing?

He's pish!

No thanks. He is past it and likes the night life too much to be interested in giving 100% for the Gers. More trouble than he is worth.

Spent a lifetime hating us, get a grip

I would not entertain him I hope to feck we don't even give riorden a thought

Big Eck tried to sign him, and that is when he was good. He is a wasted talent, just like coke head O Connor

14 Jun 2013 23:01:01
@3 don't remember anyone drawing that conclusion about The Goalie!

@4 so does the rest of the world mate! Lol

15 Jun 2013 08:04:30
Riordan would do a good job, similar to Gazza but on a budget we can afford.

15 Jun 2013 14:00:51
Riordan is class waiting to happen, just needs to be managed right. McCoist is the man to bring out the best in him so we should snap him up. On provision that he gets a new haircut though.

@9. Are you really going to mention gazza and riordan in the same breath?
That's like saying kelty hearts would give brazil 1970 team a game!
Please stop being mental!
Riordan isn't as good as what we have, so not reqd, or wanted

@10! priceless! That whole reply was littered with comedy genius!

14 Jun 2013 11:55:10
Fellow bears

Fellings about young Gregg wylde if anyone should sign him I think it should be us the lad has I'm my opinion has earned a return to our club

He's rank rotten. Lucky if he's even good enought to play Sunday league. Couldny cross the street. Next!

GRD

Nothing against the lad for leaving in the first place but don't see any value in having him back. All I saw from him when he was here was decent pace with limited to no end product.
Think he's already courting Aberdeens affections with his 'Aberdeen are bigger than Bolton' statement lol :0)

1. We don't need anymore midfielders.
2. He isn't better than what we have.
3. The lad isn't good enough for any club in Scotland.
4. He deserted us last year, no comeback from that.

Hope that answers your question

Earned a return? he jumped ship as soon as he could due to already agreeing to sign for bolton

terrible player also

@4 spot on mate and what makes it worse is that he lied to the fans about the reasons for leaving. Trying to make out he sacrificed himself for others when he already had a move lined up totally despicable

Imeloving it big time carma its called

Folk said the same about Kris Burke, that he was all about pace and had no end product. He had the highest assist rate in the championship last year and 13 goals. Maybe Wylde should play as a striker?If he did come back now would be the time to play him in there, up against poor defences. I think McCall would take him at Motherwell, to replace the Jamaican Humphrie, same type of player.

Looks like Wylde is signing for the sheep. It also said a French team was wanting him Nauntes who Mo Johnston used to play for, who got promoted. Silly boy he should have gone abroad to be a better player.

14 Jun 2013 07:37:22
why would anybody want to buy a season ticket for any spl club next season. the spl is the most uncompetitive top league in europe ( not even a 2 horse race now )aberdeen and hearts have lost or put up a squad full of players for sale, utd and motherwell have lost 3 or 4 1st team players, with a number now on freedom of contract, now able to move on for free, and the rest struggling to operate on a monthly basis never mind trying to add to their playing staff, would not make financial sense in these hard times, more realistic that fans would pick and choose games and pay on a weekly basis depending if they fancied that weeks fixture or not!

I would buy one for partick. See them kick celtic's ass along maryhill road. there my pick for winning the league lol!

Yeah the league has fallen apart. It's still going to be the same when and if we get back there. As the way scottish football is going all clubs will be under the mill. And there is no chance both Gers and Celtic being offered a chance to play in England.

So we just got to face it, Scottish football is dying.

See this is the difference I'm a Gers fan have been all my life but for these teams fans its not about winning & big signings t's about supporting your club through thick & thin far too many Rangers fans are Glory Hunters probs not been to an SFL game yet but are the same ones who shout on about being fast tracked who we signing next we need 6 players and all that p@sh it does my head in & puts me off supporting my own team maybe if we didn't try to buy our way back & use all these smoke & mirror tactics to hide the real financial truths that are hurting our club with no real long term future plan we would be getting on a lot better the expectation is so high for Rangers that the clubs forced to spend money we don't have. Liquidation should have took us down a peg or two & we as fans should be realistic about the future all I want now is my club to live within it's means & if that means we can never make another Titla Challenge for 10 15 years so be it. Everyone else has played by the rules we didn't that's why we are where we are that's why we have the worst Rangers team in History & that's why we can't go sign Zaluikas Berra Wilson Cathcart Humphrey keep Goian keep Boca were shipping a million a month bears we've not played a game for about 2months now the clubs suffering so support it like everyone else supports there's win lose or draw or just support go support Manchester City or Chelsea!

Its called supporting your team maybe some SPL fans should try it someday and maybe their clubs wouldn't be going down the pan

That's the issue currently in Scottish football. The so called top teams such as Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee utd had appalling league performances and have all been weakened. Motherwell have lost at least half their team as well. The SPL is going to be even more of a procession next season and its on a par with the leagues in Ireland and Wales. If Celtic fail to get into the champions league next season then the games will all be pointless

Not every club has a 40k+ fan base but SPL clubs still have a hard core support who will still follow them no matter what a bit like yourselves so the last comment about " try it someday" makes you sound like a prat!

By your logic then, why would anyone buy a ticket for the new sfl2 league? The huge amounts of money spent on wages to sign players must mean that it will be a one horse race for rangers too. Fans go to games cause they love watching their team, win or lose.

Think the gap between rangers and other div 2 clubs is going to be a lot closer than celtic and the other spl teams who seem to be losing players which are either not being replaced or their positions being filled with youths!

You ever heard of tHe saying you don't s*** where you eat? We're all scottish clubs so you're kind of undermining your own statement op.

Where are the new shops opening, any in Fife?

OP hail hail big fish in an even smaller pond, the tic put a spin on it last year let's see what happens in the next two years.
If they fail to qualify for the cl the s*** will hit the fan for the stand alone club with the biggest first team pool in its history.

Its definetly all down too the clowns running scotish football it wasnt enough the guys ruined well run establishments down the road giving themself big rise in wages no wonder england laugh at us we ain't a big enough country for these wages get our own runing the game then we might see success like before tmwnn

@10 Celtic have failed to qualify several time recently for the CL and the s*** did not hit the fan. Simply the club have got some buffer of money and no real debt. I think likely that with 3 qualy rounds to negotiate there is a chance they won't make it in next few seasons. but it won't result in liquidation due to bad financial management

@12

If Celtic regularly don't qualify for the group stages, then they will know about it. Gloat as much as you want for now, plenty more 'credit crunches' on the way. Never say never though, just remember. Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. xx