Rangers Banter Archive July 14 2015

 

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14 Jul 2015 23:39:27
Is the scouting in place to broaden horizin? Is DK going to give some pennies at all to MW?

Believable1 Unbelievable1

15 Jul 2015 07:56:05
We have alreadyvspend more money than every other team in the league .

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14 Jul 2015 19:16:37
some fans take the biscuit and want to moan for sake of it we are solvent we have a new management team who are altering things from the ground up we hae got rid of the last load of rubbish who were running the club we are signing players albeit not for millions of pounds macoist spent fortunes in wages in three seasons in which we got worse every season to me things are on the up and I have confidence in weir and warburton no doubt there will be 1 or 2 gliches but u can't replace so many players and hope to gell straight away

Believable5 Unbelievable5

14 Jul 2015 20:33:25
I agree but not going up this year was a financial disaster, not going up next year,,,, is curtains! There must be some true quality in the team to assure promotion. I haven't seen that yet. Remember DK said whatever it takes! I think he's taking a massive gamble. Just my opinion guys.

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14 Jul 2015 19:51:53
Only point I would argue with is that we haven't got rid of the load of rubbish that were running the club. It's clear the last lot were the puppets of Mike Ashley and although they have gone he is still very much heavily involved with the club

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14 Jul 2015 18:56:01
I am sorry to say this, but some of the posts on here are dreadful, I honestly believe some posters know nothing about football, or indeed what constitutes a good signing. We are in the second tier of Scottish football, we lost 11 dead weight overpaid failures, we need to build, and get in the correct players, we will not be spending huge amounts of money. The players we have recruited are young, will improve and have a sell on value. We also have a couple of transfer windows in the coming season.Be patient, we will be ready, and indeed able for the coming season. Rangers are on the way back, but no longer the boom or bust Rangers. Leaner meaner, and we will be winners, that is a cert.

Believable8 Unbelievable6

14 Jul 2015 18:41:51
Does anyone know how many season tickets have been sold.

Believable1 Unbelievable2

14 Jul 2015 23:58:32
Just count the amount of plastics cups outside the ticket office mate or was there no dishing out of cups of cha this year

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14 Jul 2015 15:38:08
Fans on this page are ways nothing but happy. W/W are just in the door and people are saying that the signings are duds. I.e ( Danny Wilson )

He was good enough years ago at us. Saying best defender. We sell him fans go mad ( and I quote here from when he was sold on ) should have kept him another year or got more. He played amazing last year for Hearts bossing the defensive and his midfield and took them up. ( although it's a team game ) but captains are the ones that keep players on their toes and he did.

Now he's at us. Fans are saying he's not good enough! Get real all you doubters, we are a championship team now. We ain't going to be signing players like Ramos, luis, or even bottom teams from the PL.

We have a new management team that are going to look at what we need and that was defensive and keeper. They addressed that. Yeah need a RB. But there still time. We need a ST foremost. I think give Aird a free role this year and see what the guy can do. He reminds me of Thomas Buffel. Anyone remember him? Yeah fans again slated the guy, then he scores fans where all praising him. But what we need too is a box to box player like Barry Ferguson when he first started off. We get that the we can run that midfield.

ST options. There is Aird, Law, and clarke, even temps can play there. Give these guys a chance and who knows they might fire in 30 goals a season for us.

Anyone know about the Wigan guys we enquired about?

Believable2 Unbelievable13

14 Jul 2015 16:32:11
Aird up front? Law up front? Temps up front? You must be joking.

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14 Jul 2015 16:42:00
Aird? He is one of the worst players ever to pull on a Rangers shirt, closely followed by Law . Thomas Buffel might not have been a Rangers legend but was very talented and skillful on his day

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14 Jul 2015 16:42:45
Mylesdonald, you tell me who is best then this boys been at the squad know the pressure and atmosphere. They would and could do a job! Aird scored a lot of goals in the youth team. But let me guess you're going to say that's youth level. But if a youth ST can get 20-30 at that level we bring them up because that then you will be all praise that young guy.

Aird can do a job!

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14 Jul 2015 17:28:57
Teeboy your post was great until it got to the striker bit then it wasn't so great,the only 1 of your 3 that could "maybe"make it as a striker is temps and that's a big maybe the other 2 are rid rotten but that's only my opinion

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14 Jul 2015 17:55:55
John1974, yeah it's everyone's opinion. But why not try these guys. Who cares if we only win 1-0 then great. But least chance it with these guys rather than spend money and wages on other players that can't or possibly won't be able to handle the pressure at Rangers week in and week out. Get to January then have a look and see if we need a ST.

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14 Jul 2015 17:58:26
teeboy I am sorry I just can't see aird doing much good nor mackay hope I am wrong but I don't think so

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14 Jul 2015 18:11:48
BIGWULL. They wanna stay at the team then they will need to give Gers 110% every week. But saying that we could bring in ST's and they could be good or even worse than you all think about Aird. But this new management might be what these players need. Adapted to new positions and a chance to show what they can do. But we will never know as past managers have stuck to vanilla football instead of mixing things about.

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14 Jul 2015 18:27:46
I understand where you're coming from teeboy regarding the money side of it but Aird &Law especially are never strikers in a million years like I said temps a big big maybe could be a striker in my opinion

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14 Jul 2015 18:32:24
Thomas Buffel was head and shoulders above guys like Aird and Clark and Law is a poor imitation of somebody like Barry Ferguson. If we have to rely on players of this calibre we can forget about getting promoted again this year.

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14 Jul 2015 18:46:40
We also have Clark,Hardie,& Gallagher who I think coached properly under W&W could do a job for us this season especially Clark I mean he scored 30 odd goals for QOS before we signed him and granted he hasn't shown anywhere near that form for us since but I believe under W&W I think that could change in my opinion teeboy mate,I would put my 3 especially Clark ahead of your 3 for strikers

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14 Jul 2015 19:59:23
Imo aird just doesn't have theskill to play at rangers just like burke, when your playing against a team camped in there own half you need more than just hard workers aird in a smaller side qos, st mirren etc. Would probably look a lot better than the likes of Carmichael, Kidd, cawlley etc. Who have all runus ragged lol. hopefully he proves me wrong.

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14 Jul 2015 21:20:14
I think Templeton has something under the right management. At least he has proven he can cut it at a high level. If we can get him back to that kind of form he would be like a new signing. Aird and Clark - no!

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14 Jul 2015 22:28:59
Im not singing his praises here or anything but Aird on occasion was our best player in some games and one of the players who had the balls to try and do something with the ball at his feet. He is still young and has a lot to learn and needs to be more consistent but could be a decent player in the future. Charlie Adam was proper mince around his age if I remember right?

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14 Jul 2015 23:02:49
All us fans don't know nothing. We only see what we want! Sorry I'm a fan and I think,. , we are all daft! Get behind the team like we do when we Celtic. And you will see a different team. Aird, Law, clarke, McKay, Hardie can all do a job this season I bet! W/W will take us up but they need money for that league. If we can get into Europe next year that's even better. Big club like Rangers, means bigger names. You all have points to say I respect them. But we need to get behind out bears! No more 40 thousand pack that stadium again.

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14 Jul 2015 19:56:33
Teeboy1

Aird?? You have got to be joking he is rank rotten.

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14 Jul 2015 15:22:39
haris vukic has been left out of the 24 man squad for america has no future at newcastle.

Believable4 Unbelievable1

14 Jul 2015 17:59:48
we knew that last season when he was sent up here there is no chance of ashley allowing a deal with rangers

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14 Jul 2015 18:29:05
Not for an inflated fee he won't

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14 Jul 2015 19:59:42
Only for an inflated transfer fee I meant to say in my last post. sorry

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14 Jul 2015 14:52:54
Fellow bears I hope people keep the faith in the new management team they're trying to overhaul the whole football club,,from under 8,s to the first team,,it's going to take time,,I know people want more money spent on players but I'm sure we don't need to spend a fortune to get out of the championship,,we just need players that want to be there and buy into the managers ideas but I'm also sure if we get behind them our club will grow back to being force again and not front page news for all the haters to laugh at anymore watp

Believable10 Unbelievable0

14 Jul 2015 14:52:14
Why don't rangers not go for the guy Andy Geggan from Dunfermline the guy is a digger in the middle of the park thoughts fellow bears

Believable1 Unbelievable8

14 Jul 2015 15:08:45
I know someone that got given 2 pairs of his boots

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14 Jul 2015 16:33:05
Your mate will probably put the boots to better use mate.

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14 Jul 2015 17:34:07
Maybe we could sign your mate instead of the boy fae Dunfermline

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14 Jul 2015 14:24:11
It says a lot about our quality of player last year when you see Kyle Hutton being turned down by Plymouth and St Johnstone. Let's hope the new crop of youngsters prove to be better players and have future value to go on to stronger leagues

Believable3 Unbelievable2

14 Jul 2015 14:39:06
Isn't always about quality. Is about fitness.

Players can have the quality but if they're not fit enough, why would Rangers or any club for that matter take the risk.

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14 Jul 2015 18:03:44
that was one of our problems the last three seasons none of our players were fit

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14 Jul 2015 22:50:20
In a way Yes.

You have guys the age of Boyd, Daly, Miller, Shiels, Mcculloch, Black. You can pretty much guarantee the age of these guys means there fitness ain't going to be up to scratch.

And if they don't have the belief in their manager you can say their fitness is about 20% what it should be

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14 Jul 2015 06:55:45
Can I ask the folk you are unhappy with our signings so far, who they had in mind for the positions filled & potential signings from middle to front would be?

Believable2 Unbelievable2

14 Jul 2015 07:55:26
Some people want champions league signings aldo, it's as if we won't be able to sign players ever again lol

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14 Jul 2015 09:01:26
Great signings so far. I don't know much about Kiernan but he can't be any worse than some of the centre halves we have had over the last couple of years. We still need a right back and maybe a centre mid. I would go with the forwards we have and give some of the youngsters a go.

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14 Jul 2015 09:16:26
Cee i'm just a bit puzzled what some folk would deem to be a good signing for us . Maddness!! lol

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14 Jul 2015 10:08:02
Don't see the point in spending money for the hell of it.
Happy with the signings so far, the only one that I would like to come is Scott Allan, but we might get him for nothing eventually anyway.
Would like a striker, but no names spring to mind.
Think we have to keep faith with Warburton and Weir and stop criticising them before the season has even started.

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14 Jul 2015 12:45:27
Im hopeful that Warburton can turn some of these players into better players. the youth players will get a chance a d you never know Gallagher, hardie etc. Could hit the ground running look at cunmings at hibs he got a chance and repaid then maybe our youngsters can do the same.

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14 Jul 2015 13:50:27
Correct Cee, The manager and his tactics can either make or break players, so he must be sure that they will fit into his pattern[s] of playing. Big signings are not the answer, but players that are willing to adapt are essential. The major exception would be a prolific goalscorer, as he should be given some freedom.
Let's hope that our new management team can build a solid, exciting team and make some of our better players into stars.
Most of us wanted youth to be given a chance, so supported by some solid players, tempered with some experience and good coaching, let the season begin.

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14 Jul 2015 13:53:21
mvg180

I don’t think fans are having a go at Warburton and Weir, more at the board for obviously not letting them sign anybody other than bargain basement signings after King claimed he will overspend/spend whatever it takes to get out of the league.

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14 Jul 2015 15:06:33
The fact no money is being spent on players.
Is that down to King, or is it Warburton and Weir?
I would have thought that W+W would have been told how much they would be able to spend on players before they accepted the job.

I too would like to see some signings which filled me with excitement but maybe W+W think they can win promotion without spending much.

Although I do agree that King is not doing what he said he would. He gave the impression that we were going to build a team now, which would then be capable of competing for the top next year in the SPL.

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14 Jul 2015 15:25:01
Are the board not letting management team sign anyone or spend some cash? How do you know this?
The management are hardly in the door and you can't assess your squad in a few weeks. I'd much rather the entire squad was looked at them new players brought in just to please the fans.
Last thing we need is a player going because he wasn't given a chance and then performing to a high standard elsewhere and also not wanting a player coming in who isn't any better than what we already got.
Cash will be spent but some fans need a reality check ASAP

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14 Jul 2015 17:32:36
When you take a player on its not just a transfer fee you are paying there is the signing on fees and wages to consider aswell so we may not be spending a lot of money bringing players in but if you take wages into consideration there is money being spent it just isn't being thrown about like previous regimes have done and landing us back in the brown stuff

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14 Jul 2015 05:54:38
Quietly hoping Danny Stoney is given a chance upfront this season. He's been class for the u20s!

Believable9 Unbelievable3

14 Jul 2015 03:22:24
Dundee Utd just signed Coll Donaldson,, he was let go from Qpr last week

Believable2 Unbelievable0

14 Jul 2015 02:04:44
When we were in the 2nd division every single fan was shouting for us to give youth a chance.

Division 1. Give youth a chance.

Championship. Give youth a chance.

I remember reading hundreds if not thousands of posts on here screaming for Ally to stop buying experienced duds who were past their prime and to start fielding the Murray park youngsters who would show some hunger and passion and more than match the opposition at this level.

This year, we finally have a manager who looks like he will deliver what we have all wanted for so long and now a huge amount of fans seem to have forgotten our recent on field mistakes and are complaining about this.

We have made some good signings so far. We were shipping goals last season and rightfully so, this was the first area the manager has addressed. It's the manner in which he has tackled this which is most pleasing. Did he go out and buy ex players who are past it and looking for one last pay day before retirement? No. He gave us exactly what we have been calling for, young decent players who not only cost very little but will also hopefully progress as players and will become players we can sell in the future and make a profit on.

Now people are also panicking because we haven't bought enough new players. I agree that we need one or two more but imagine how these youngsters are going to progress now that we have a manager who uses tactics and knows how to train them properly. Not only that but one who is not afraid to stick them in the first team and give them the opportunities they have been craving and not receiving under recent managers.

Lets not forget that we are in the Scottish Championship, No disrespect to Hibs and St Mirren but we're not playing Madrid every week. We absolutely have the players who can compete and win this division. We also now have a manager who seems to know what he is is doing.

I just find it hard to understand how the same people who last year were calling for us to give youth a chance, stop overspending, live within our means, start unearthing gems from the lower english divisions, buy players with sell on value.

They seem to have forgotten this and have changed their tune entirely.

This is the first time in years that I have actually been excited during a pre season. I check the papers and go online and find stories about players we are linked with and not about us getting dragged through the courts or how much money someone is squeezing out of us. I understand why people are sceptical, we have been through a mountain of sh**e recently. But I can not remember a time when it has felt this good to be a Rangers fan in many years.

Bring on this season.

Believable17 Unbelievable6

14 Jul 2015 07:49:45
Dunc I agree with your post 101% mate!! I am of the the exact same mindset as your self!!

Bring on next season!!

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14 Jul 2015 08:49:41
wish everyone looked at it that way

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14 Jul 2015 09:47:37
Good post & I agree. Also t's a tragedy the opportunity was lost to do this 3 years ago.
But we still need some experienenced quality players in there as W/W said to help develop the youth. In my opinion, not Eustace or any veteran, but we have to invest in a proven centre mid - a captain to drive the team forward into the premier. DK said all players coming in should be premier standard. MW quoted a 3yr plan for Champs Leauge. For me it has to be youth guided by quality experienced players.

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14 Jul 2015 10:07:16
To a point I agree with the post however I have to point out that the youth team didn't win anything and finished 4th behind the likes of Aberdeen and Celtic. There is no doubt that we have some very promising youngsters and hopefully we finally have a manager who can bring them on however this won't happen overnight and it's vital we get out of the division. Hibs are a good footballing side and will be very tough. The panic as you put it probably comes from the fact that most Gers fans recognise this and we are due to play them away in just over a week. We do need to get some experienced players in and soon. The only way we will win the league is with a blend of youth and experience and by experience I mean guys in their twenties not old duds whose best days are behind them

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14 Jul 2015 11:24:52
Could not agree more. Exactly what I've been trying to say.

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14 Jul 2015 11:46:32
Take a bow son. that was a great post Dunc we all need to start looking at the big picture and not just the quick fix which were famous for. keep the faith

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14 Jul 2015 15:06:13
Could not agree more, everything I’ve wanted, as a Rangers fan, is now happening.
I believe the young players in our squad will thrive, now that we are not wasting millions on over paid has beens.
Finally, finally we have a Manager who seems to be doing exactly what we have all been crying out for and some fans are still complaining. It beggars belief.
Mark Warburton is doing exactly what should have been done 3 years ago.
As for people saying King and Co should put their money where their mouth is, please remember, Rangers Football Club is loosing money, hand over fist, at the rate of £1m per month. Who do you think is bridging that shortfall? Please also remember the Financial Fair Play rules, meaning that, before we can spend money.

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14 Jul 2015 16:02:03
Jesus looks like a case of sanity has broken out! Don't know why some fans are so concerned by the hibs game in a week, if we lose its not going to be a disaster its the ramsdens cup man! It might take a month or so to get going but am positive we will and fans are going to love going to the games again

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14 Jul 2015 20:05:06
Aberbear

Is that the same tournament we have failed to win 3 times? I don't think you can try and cheapen a cup competition that we haven't been good enough to win.

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