Rangers Banter Archive April 14 2020

 

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14 Apr 2020 18:24:56
After all this debacle of corruption with the Scottish Football Authorities and Liewell this Season, as far as I am concerned is Null and Void! Liewell can try all he wants but all this mob have been found out for what they are! Glasgow Rangers all the way! ✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.



14 Apr 2020 20:26:49
If you want to kid on this season never happened just like you pretend 2012 never happened then that's for your own wee world to decide but reality is your season was over before the shutdown.



14 Apr 2020 20:47:26
And you really want to talk about pretending certain things “never” happened suit? Anyway is it just me or is anyone else starting to get one of those unemployed suntans? Obviously not 1 for the Celtic boys on here. Happy giro Tuesday.



14 Apr 2020 21:09:54
hate to say it but he's right -but- and its a big but--the season must be completed for any bragging rights -and its not and it involves 12 teams fighting for one thing or another can anyone say "heart of Midlothian" --.



14 Apr 2020 21:18:50
Its quite simple pudding, the league is not over, nobody has won anything or been relegated many positions are to be decided. If the league can't be finished it must be declared null and void. Its the very essence of sportsmanship and integrity to play to the rules at all times. I would concede if Celtic were not catch-able and all relegation placed teams couldn't escape down but they are not.



14 Apr 2020 21:40:05
Sporting integrity Suit, that’s what Liewell said! Roaming about Rangers Rumours hoping you get handed a tainted League Title🤪🤪🤪🇬🇧.



14 Apr 2020 21:43:46
Totally agree TJBB, nothing decided, everything still to play for.



14 Apr 2020 23:07:04
Some visitors on here looking for another asterisk.



15 Apr 2020 00:06:59
if i had my way it would be six asterisks.



15 Apr 2020 00:03:51
Yately01, i'm with you on this one mate, sporting integrity, a thing we've heard about a lot this last wee while back sporting integrity, its the rule,



15 Apr 2020 12:57:13
Suit, you are another, don't come on here and talk about things that happened/ never happened, the world knows about the things that definitely happened at your club, even if youse say they never happened.



15 Apr 2020 19:56:43
But it wasn’t them paulellen it was a different entity because they said so mate.



14 Apr 2020 15:58:56
Another problem a fear we might hit is we let 5 or 6 players go back home to be with there families if we did start up on june 10th or new season in August how are we meant to get theses players back in the country when its been said domestic flights might not begin till sept/ oct.



14 Apr 2020 17:43:35
Big blue bear on a plane.



14 Apr 2020 18:52:18
W. H. O have said there won't be any Commercial flights from country's until november that's why EUFA have said no Internationals to be played til next year.



14 Apr 2020 19:32:29
sorry meant domestic flights.



15 Apr 2020 02:44:54
There are still airports in the UK operating domestic and commercial flights as well as cargo flights. A quick check would tell you that.



15 Apr 2020 11:45:35
Big blue are you mull in disguise 🤔😷.



15 Apr 2020 13:22:49
Get the guy on who's got a contact in Menzies - they'll clear it up for BBB. 😂
I don't want the big man cracking up in self isolation lockdown worrying about Morelos getting back from Columbia. 👍.



14 Apr 2020 14:23:33
I see fat ashley is selling newcastle utd to amanda staveley and the reuben brothers david and simon, who are the 2nd richest in britain with a net fortune of 18billion! I wish he would get to f**k out of rangers also and allow us to get our kit deal sorted out regarding our new kit manufacturers and our new retail partners! Very pleased for the newcastle utd supporters who deserve to get rid of that rat! I've a lot of newcastle supporting lifelong friends down there and they detest him! They'll be celebrating big style when the deal finally goes through and ashley is out of their club. The reuben brothers are mega rich and newcastle utd could become a major force under their ownership, i hope so anyway as they're a great club with special supporters! 👍.



14 Apr 2020 16:44:44
Think even if they are mega rich because of the Fair Play rules they can't just pump money into transfers.



15 Apr 2020 02:56:41
There's a lot of water to flow under the bridge before any such deal is even close. It's a murky business, with Ashley loaning Staveley the money to buy her share of the deal, with the promise that she will pay it back if she is successful in suing Barclay's Bank for £1.5billion for helping them during the banking crisis in 2008. There is also a Saudi cabal lurking in there and remember it's Ashely here, as guy that's as slippery as Switzerland. The Geordie Boys aren't free of his clutches just yet.



14 Apr 2020 14:19:05
In no way do I wish for ANY club to go under. But what I see from our governing body is a trick to put clubs into that position. An organisation put in place to protect has turned into an organisation of corruption and lies.
First, Ann Budges statement. Very clear and to the point. Her point on why the rangers resolution was refused is shocking. The word 'instructed' was used and should have been 'requested' well then inform rangers of that. don't tell the championship clubs it has not passed then let us and hearts find out from them.
Second, The ability for one club to retract its vote ( that is my third point) . In such an important system/ resolution as this, your vote must stand. It doesn't matter if a lovely friendly offer comes in after your vote. Your vote was cast, end of.
Third, in the resolution a club who votes in FAVOUR of the resolution can not retract there vote. Remember in favour. However it does not have the same for a club that votes against it. So this allows for conversations between organisations and clubs to discuss said vote.
fourth, It is not illegal to offer incentives to a voter from other voters. It is illegal to offer money, but there are many ways around this. I have been in a situation myself with a very well known business that requested me to take the value of any golf outings calendars, gifts to the company and instead pay the money into the businesses account. scary but legal It is however illegal for a governing body to off any sort of incentives.
Fifth, So we come to the nitty, gritty. Hearts, ICT, St Mirren and us retract our votes as it in no ways says an us being a no vote that we cant. We hold them to ransom as they have held us. We wait the 28 days to vote. We can play there game. If they refuse us to retract our votes we refuse to accept that dundees vote could be retracted.



14 Apr 2020 14:39:16
Really like that last one finty . only it won’t be st Mirren they are happy . it would poss be Partick and Falkirk. But definitely a good strategy. unless we can hit them with an interdict immediately.



14 Apr 2020 15:47:10
Partick Thistle QC David Thomson’s legal opinion on the SPFL’s handling of their resolution makes for interesting reading. All 13 pages are available online. Hope the evidence we have is compelling and we can apply further pressure.



14 Apr 2020 16:39:07
Good post Finty, but either us or Hearts retracting our votes wouldn’t impact the Premiership vote. However, your shout about Thistle might be worth a shout.



14 Apr 2020 22:03:51
It wouldn’t hewho but it would mean they could not proceed for three weeks or until UEFA make their decision end of April.



14 Apr 2020 14:00:57
Pesonally in no way do I want ANY team to fold. So this farcical resolution is just that. An intention to force a hand of any clubs in financial problems. My take on this is an organisation put in to protect clubs using the virus to hold clubs to ransom. We are hearing clubs chairmans are not happy at all with the resolution but there hands are forced due to the money.
First Ann Budges statement. for her to tell us that the rangers resolution was dropped due to the fact the word 'instructed' was used unstead of 'requested' is a disgrace.
second, the ability of a club to vote then retract the vote. Now unless it states in the contract that you can you then retract the vote at a later date within the 28 days then fine ( that will be my third point)



14 Apr 2020 11:09:36
A SPFL board meeting has been called for today, apparently hoping to gain clarity from Dundee on their position with this 'vote'. As a Dundonian, though a Bear through-and-through, I am disgusted by the actions of my home town team. Even though a Gers fan, I watched them when they won the league in 1962 as I was too young to travel to watch Rangers so I went to Dens Park to watch the greats like Gilzean, Smith, Penman, Ure, et al. Very disappointing.



14 Apr 2020 11:46:53
It is being touted that Dundee FC have been offered 'lucrative' friendlies with other Premiership club (s) .

1. Who is this other club (s)?
2. Is it legal?
3. Can the SPFL offer one club incentives and ignore other clubs?
4. If a form is sent in whatever way - it can still be opened - no big issue - Why wasn't it accepted?
5. Don't believe the 'firewall' issue - an email is an email. Just change the type of form in the server 'jpeg' 'png' etc etc where form has been downloaded - very simple process.
6. Once form received do SPFL rules allow club to (un) submit?
7. Are SPFL allowed to offer incentives in order to pursue THEIR agenda?
8. Who is Peter?
9 What was Perter's involvement in the process?
10. Who is in charge at the SPFL?

more questions than answers

I think RFC should leave this corrupt SPFL and apply to the Conference - whichever one, and start from there.

Stay safe.



14 Apr 2020 12:18:35
Hope Thistle, Hearts, ICT, Stranraer and other fair minded clubs see what Dundee and the Mhankies are doing and don't FORGET.



14 Apr 2020 13:08:36
Why on earth would celtic be involved in any wrong doing. They have no need to. As I've said before. They have sat back and let this unfold itself. No club statement no nothing. Why would they get involved with all this nonsense because that's exactly what it all is.



14 Apr 2020 13:38:16
They reason they say nothing is they gain the most, they can sit back smugly and watch the fallout, the puppet master Lawwell will be at the forefront of this, they are so desperate to win the title, you could not burn their necks with a blowtorch, if they get presented the title, it will be so tainted it will be toxic, crooks run the SPFL and they should be flushed out, Dundee FC have not covered themselves in glory over this mess up, Just Say No, and be done with, you will all get your money, and at least some clubs retain their integrity.



14 Apr 2020 13:49:56
Add to they the growing rumours that uefa are set to call null and void to every league across Europe. Remeber Lawwell is on board at ueafa so he will have known before most.



14 Apr 2020 14:09:04
and we already Know that Neil was going to phone 'Peter'

who Peter has still to be confirmed and,

why Peter needed to be contacted is still to be confirmed and,

what involvement in all this does Peter have and,

who does Neil answer to and,

who does Peter answer to?

wheels within wheels all heading towards the east!



14 Apr 2020 14:37:09
dear oh dear Martinbhoy . No club statement from the club that have no need to be involved in any wrong doing. The fear of null and void would be enough surely? Your lot are never Usually this quiet, unless.
I agree it is nonsense (Foolish or Unacceptable behaviour) therefore this nonsense from SPFL must not go unchallenged.



14 Apr 2020 16:09:52
Ffs. The fat has inside info from UEFA that they were going to call the leagues N and V so instructed Dungcaster to get the vote done at all costs in favour of league positions as it stands. Threaten clubs with impending financial doom if they don’t vote it through (now been proven that’s not the case) and C*ltic are crowned champions with a path to the CL riches.
That’s why League 1 and 2 were lumped together as a percentage as the vote would have failed otherwise.
Now enter the Dundee debacle. C*ltic offering Dundee a glamour friendly in the states to change their vote.
Still here?
Now Partick are about to enter an interdict to stop the whole process which should begin an independent enquiry into the vote.
Enter Rangers with the cherry on the cake and it’s goodnight from me and it’s goodnight from him!



14 Apr 2020 16:25:06
Dundee v Separate Entity FC pre season game, the club with no morals pre season tour of Dundee.



14 Apr 2020 16:26:16
True Blue. An excellent post identifying all the questions that must be answered. I think we have a good idea who peter could be. I have already posted my thoughts on this but want to reaffirm my thoughts that Rangers should seek to exit scottish (celtic driven) football at the earliest opportunity.



14 Apr 2020 16:27:31
Why would Dundee agree to this when they have chance of going up via the play offs, as they say money talks.



14 Apr 2020 16:34:14
Martbhoy, its because your lot are so desperado, to get number 9, cheating of the highest order.



14 Apr 2020 16:36:10
Their silence speaks volumes for their behind the scenes involvement and manipulation.



14 Apr 2020 16:37:47
They will be involved because, only if this resolution gets passed can they then push for a resolution to have premiership ended early.
If this vote is blocked then they can't add resolution to have premiership ended early.



14 Apr 2020 18:13:27
Robertson anyone?



15 Apr 2020 00:04:17
Ar9, yeah mate i agree with you on this, scottish football was in a bit of a mess before this latest farce, its played out, i would like to see a new venture a new challenge, we know if we don't get out. what's to be expected, earliest exit.



14 Apr 2020 10:46:41
Maybe I have missed something here, but Why are Dundee allowed to negotiate on behalf of themselves or others? Why were other clubs not allowed to negotiate? Now if the proposal has changed surely all clubs would be required to vote again or have the right to change their minds like Dundee.



14 Apr 2020 11:03:24
Shpuld be no vote at all
The joke of a governing bady should have the balls and make decisions and take accountability otherwise what the point of them
Disgrace.



14 Apr 2020 10:17:38
Seems like the east end mob will stop at nothing to get 9 in a row with liewell and the test of his flunkies at spfl going out of their way to help. So if they want it that badly give them it and titles ten eleven twelve in fact as many as they want. i'd totally support Rangers doing everything in their power to join another league and leave this corruption behind.



14 Apr 2020 11:51:50
I take it you are including your own managing director Stewart Robertson who is on the SPFL committee having replaced Lawwell at the start of this season. Both SPFL and SFA committees have no Celtic representation.



14 Apr 2020 12:02:51
mclelland chairman mhanks connections, doncaster peters best chum.



14 Apr 2020 12:21:57
Aye if you say so.



14 Apr 2020 12:47:20
When the Dundee secretary mentions the Dundee owner speaking to Neil and Peter. Who do you think he's talking about oldkilly? 🤔.



14 Apr 2020 14:21:12
Prob he will say Neil kinnock and Peter Pan .
Come on rangers fight this . get an interdict in.



14 Apr 2020 14:33:03
we have numbers. we have the route to change. btw they have admitted on these pages its 8.79 so even next year they can't get to 10 :)



14 Apr 2020 16:04:59
dont panic mr mannering.



14 Apr 2020 16:28:39
Oldkilly. No i certainly don't include Mr Robertson who has already gone on the record about the conduct of the spfl in regard to this matter. Spfl solicitor is liewells puppet and linked to celtic shareholders via mis business past. Disgrace.



14 Apr 2020 16:38:26
I think he may have been speaking to both Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell about possible dates for a pre-season friendly at Dens Park.



14 Apr 2020 18:27:48
no he was not he was talking to neil diamond for a concert at dundee, and peter capaldi for dr who to turn up in the tardis, as good as your garbage buzzbomb.



14 Apr 2020 19:16:53
Having read everything about Mr Nelmes in the press and on news programmes, he said he had a telephone conversation with a premier league chairman, he never mentioned Peter and that he had calls from five other clubs. Now to begin with Lawwell is not the chairman of Celtic, that position belongs to Ian Bankier. Most Rangers fans on this site comment on Celtic fans obsession with your club I’m sure the same can be said of your own fans who rarely post without reference to Lawwell. It is not Celtic’s fault that Rangers are in the financial position they find themselves today that is of your own making.



14 Apr 2020 21:18:48
See this is your problem oldkilly, you trot out the same old 'financial problems/ positions' pish. You lot have been going on about that for years.
This is about possible corruption/ dodgy deals in the SPFL. Neil and Peter were both mentioned by the Dundee secretary, we all know who they are.
That's why Peter liewell is mentioned on this forum.



15 Apr 2020 13:32:12
old killy, you can't support celtic, if you don't agree with the amount of tims now running Scottish football.



14 Apr 2020 07:48:51
Totally gutted that I didn't make the obsessed Tim poll on here. I need to be a bit more of a menace on these pages in future!

I will own up and confess that I am "obsessed", but only obsessed about football in general and not just Rangers. I regularly do a round robin of many other teams pages to get the general view and the pulse of Scottish football. Its amazing what you can find out about our game if you take the time to listen to others. Some prefer the more narrow minded and paroquial aspects of only understanding and considering their own clubs views and interests though.

Also, the earlier poll that indicates that over 2/3 of Rangers fans on here would not go to an away game to "starve" other teams into submission/ bankruptcy is astounding. Does that not go against the statement that suggested that money should be paid to help the struggling teams?



14 Apr 2020 08:27:55
Watching the meltdown and implosion is a joy to behold😂😂😂

I have to say the best time to visit these pages is when there is no football being played😂😂😂😂.



14 Apr 2020 08:44:24
Only the teams in 2nd place or bottom are giving a thought to the financial security of the rest of the clubs, apparently. ;)



14 Apr 2020 09:13:50
Never mind that - more importantly who did you vote for in the poll?



14 Apr 2020 09:16:39
Is this a normal day for you boys? Wake up, must check rangers forum, must post on it before 9.00am!
Don't worry we'll have another poll am sure you'll get a mention in that one 😉.



14 Apr 2020 09:31:44
Unbelievable. Let's see what The Famous are up to before we drink our buckie.



14 Apr 2020 10:14:45
The team in second place we’re asking for prize money to be fished out in their resolution not loans. the spfl can always give out loans to teams in need. but some teams maybe a bit embarrassed asking for a loan?



14 Apr 2020 14:40:23
I thought the Tim's would have been one of the embarrassed clubs but after begging Boris for the Tory Furlough that blew that out the water 🤣🤣🤣🤣.



14 Apr 2020 14:34:20
Your lot weren't embarrassed when they went begging to the Tories.



14 Apr 2020 15:09:56
naw big p good try but that was a statement not the resolution 🤣🤣.



14 Apr 2020 16:21:28
as usual no matter what, perception is slanted. the corrupt hand that is dealt requires change and if that change is it. I mean teams lost then its necessary. time up on the mafia.



13 Apr 2020 23:26:22
The football authority's are corrupt in Scotland that is plain and simple and that's there for everyone to see. There is far more important stuff going on in the world, let them have there tainted title.

If football authoritys had any brains this season would be null and void and start a fresh when we can there is people out there losing lives and people are arguing about titles complete farce should have been declared null and void everywhere.



14 Apr 2020 08:01:39
Well said craigs8688, football is irrelevant in the overall scheme of things, some teams in the UK won't survive this long term, nor will a lot of non sport employers.



14 Apr 2020 10:15:39
They aren’t corrupt all the authorities are trying to do in every country is come up with solutions to set out plans that allow us when this passes to move on and try to get back to some form of normality?



14 Apr 2020 10:25:05
Sadly it's all about the money guys, titles, relegations, promotions etc all mean nothing without the cash.

Cash is king for every club, SFA SPL in this sink or swim period.

Even the club who say have £30 million spare in the bank are not immune, that's why the deferred pay cut's wi them and us.



14 Apr 2020 12:27:30
like i said big p the spfl board and all leagues bosses all over the other country's should have declared the seasons null and void.
They have it in there powers to distribute money but have not done it instead forcing clubs to vote there plans threw.
I am Liverpool and rangers supporter and would even say that if rangers where in first postion there is something more important than football going on rite now
normality we a very unlikely see that return any time soon and that will have impact on next season football as well.



14 Apr 2020 13:08:23
Okay Big P, here's a point for you, I'll concede that you get the Title, but, it doesn't count as '9', you start any new season on 8, and take it from there, is that okay for you. Bare in mind as I and many others have said before, that there a far bigger fish to fry at present in this World.



14 Apr 2020 14:35:23
Aren't corrupt don't vote with us = no money.



15 Apr 2020 13:34:52
Big p, are you big pauline, the nutcase that used to argue night was day on here? i hope not, if so i hope you have done your chores, ie made the beds, done the housework, made the brecky, etc, before you came onto the site of the famous glasgow rangers.



 
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