Rangers Banter Archive October 13 2013

13 Oct 2013 09:51:51
Interesting statements on the clubs
official web site from Mr king & Mr
Mather, Mr king says he has submitted
the relevant papers, he's coming back
because of "his love of club, his business
expertise and put in cash investment" he
also says he will "use time we have to be
prepared both financially and on the pitch
to compete with our Glasgow neighbours"
billy h

Sounds like all the usual drum beating to get the fans onside ala McCoist, we should be very wary of King he has a proven track record. If only there was someone we could trust at the club to tell us the truth (an ex "club legend" for instance) and not line their own pocket. King/Mather/Green/Whyte/Murray ALL backed by McCoist, he should be the focus of our anger and frustration he has let us all down repeatedly to further his own ends and profit massively, we cannot move forward while McCoist is still associated with Rangers.

13 Oct 2013 11:48:27
Billyb you missed the clangers in Kings statement - the admission, firstly, that the club NEEDS a cash injection and, secondly, that he is looking forward to leading on another round of RAISING that cash (not putting it in himself), and thirdly that he'll be doing so sooner rather than later. Get ready to dig deep for another share issue, roughly only a year after the last one. Of course, we will all duly follow now that we have a crook in charge who is at least a gers fan.

Telling you can't believe amount of
pessimists on here and why is it when
things start to look a wee bit better at
boardroom level the doubters turn
there attention to McCoist.
I believe god himself could be in
charge & the pessimists on here would
still doubt him.
billyh

Billyh just like god mccoist relies on the blind faith of a brainwashed congregation to lead them to the promised land, he is on mega money while the club makes working people redundant, what will it take to make people realise he is not one of us anymore he sold out to SDM when Walter distanced himself the first time, and has sold out to every spiv with a few bob since, he is in this for himself and no one else, ask the players and staff he has helped to get rid of or the 50,000 fans that have endured his nonsensical management, tactical ignorance and worst of all his part in running our club into the ground with our own money while spouting his disgusting "watp" sales pitches.

@2) you're bang on the money mate. There's an immediate (end nov) need for cash. Chairman smith resigned stating fund raising was needed and he didn't have skills. Now it's chairman king to raise money. The April quote of having a million left is an April fools joke. Most didn't get it. Complete smoke and mirrors. AGM to nod through dilution of shares, King puts in £4.5m for 6.6m shares, then tries to public offer about £10m.

If there's no immediate need for cash King doesn't need clearance by authorities until Jan/ Feb.

@4 no name poster can you explain what
you mean he sold out to SDM when Walter
distanced himself first time
billy h

McCoist asked for all to judge him this season, not last, as this season is the team he has put together from choice.
Unless you are blind and deaf, do not go to see Rangers or are totally opposed to everything that is going on on the park then you will agree to this.

Ally's team is undefeated, with a 100% record - no other team has achieved this in any professional league in Europe - none! He will now try to win all games - that is why he saw fit to cancel yesterdays arrange league match with Dunfermline. Ally is going for an incredible record - a world record! Although he would not admit to it.
So please, please cut him some slack, or shut it till May 2014.

Billyh Smith openly stated that McCoist new what he was getting into when he retired as manager, why else was he appointed if not to sell STs and shares to the faithful who 2 years and 3/4/5? chairman later still refuse to accept the blatantly obvious that he is integral to their schemes, that is to say that if Craig Levein for instance was appointed instead of McCoist we wouldn't have put up with the crap football so ST renewals would have been affected, or would so many have blindly sunk their money into the share issue which surprise surprise has disapeared. that's what I mean by "sold out" they couldn't have done it without Super Ally for which he is very well paid.

World record? in by doing this he is running the club into administration again. the expenditure cannot be bigger than the income! what part of this do you not understand? it is fans like this the want to win at ALL cost. we needed to be prudent and patiently work our way up the leagues but this watp mentality is dragging us down. some dignity please gh

@7 we are playing against part time players with a wage bill of £7.8m which is far too much for a club with our turnover. Do you not expect his team to win the league in a canter? Also we were put out of the league cup in the first round which now makes 8 embarrassing cup defeats during his tenure. Course if your happy with that then you are very easily pleased. I like a growing number of Rangers fans aren't and are entitled to voice our opinion. Ally is not the answer longterm and is only doing well as the chips are stacked so heavily in his favour. Can you tell us what other manager has such a big advantage in the league?

@7 that's quite a robust defence of Ally McCoist. Should he achieve his incredible record as you put it then I guess we know who is going to be replacing Ancelotti should his stint in Madrid go wrong

@ 8 still don't get it when Walter left 1st
time ally was still playing and went to
killie, when Walter left after his 2nd term
ally took over soon after SDM sold to whyte
so how did ally sell out to SDM?

@11 8 out of 8 is no more and no less than what I expect of Rangers in this league. Would it be out of the ordinary if Rangers won every league game?

Would conspirators rather Ally went after lesser players, youth and struggled to win against part-timers, or perhaps would they want that Rangers went part-time and matched them like for like.

Ally it would seem is trying to achieve a balance between youth and experience. Please tell us who you put in your team who is out there and does not have a club.

A Rangers fan who does not believe we are going into administration - like many thousands of fans.

@10 mate every rangers manager has had a massive advantage over the rest of the teams because of the size and costs of squad hence why we have won so many trophies and like most managers and squad have been put out of the cup like some our best squads and I don't get why people keep pointing out that it's part time teams this squad can only beat what's in front of them so let's give our support to the manager and the team mccoist should be allowed to take us back to the top and get a crack at the top league and before everybody starts about the 11/12 season that was nothing to do with manager that was down to Naismith getting injured and jelavic getting sold and the and all the other stuff that was happening at the time

@14 I don't recall Walter Smith having a massive advantage over Celtic during his second stint or McLeish having a massive advantage over O'Neill or Jock Wallace having a massive advantage over Celtic during his first stint. Also we didn't have a massive advantage over Aberdeen and Dundee Utd during the early eighties so really don't see what your point is. As for the last season in the SPL Jelavic was sold after we squandered a big lead over Celtic, both Naimsith and Jelavic were available when we lost to Malmo, Maribor and Falkirk in the cups. As for the Naismith point are you then saying that Rangers were a 1 man team? Don't you think that's quite a slur on the rest of the squad? Do you not think that a manager relying on 1 player shows bad management?

@14 can you name me another Rangers manager that's lost 8 cup competitions in a row and all to teams that should have been beaten. I don't recall seeing a Rangers team lose to such poor teams as Malmo, Maribor, Falkirk, QOS and Forfar. As well as being embarrassed by Dundee Utd twice and Inverness. It may also interest you to know that Malmo and Maribor both finished bottom of their Europa league groups after beating Rangers with the some total of 2 points between them. Also Ally was the first Rangers manager to lose to Forfar.

@13 how is Ally trying to be balanced between youth and experience? The only youth to get a game now is McLead. Young McAusland started the season well and has been tossed aside in favour of a very average journeyman. Barry McKay looked great last season but has hardly been seen this season and hasn't made the last 2 squads. Aird and Gasperatto haven't featured either. Who exactly are the other youth players your talking about?

@15 mate all teams go thru periods of transition and the teams you've mentioned had advantages over most smaller clubs like the position we find ourselves in now also jelavics head had already dreaming of a move before the season even started and the fans knew it was a 1 man show Naismith so if ally didn't then I don't know why never mind the rest of the team he was the main player @16 see your mentality teams that should have been beaten why should they have but I see you nothing but a glory hunter with that mentality now nothing to do with rangers just to make a point celtic bet barca but drew with the mighty Arbroath and got bet of the giant killing Morton but

Ally is costing the club money hand over fist, is he trying to tell us we could'nt beat Dunfermline because we had 3 first-team players on international duty? we don't have a home game the whole of october meaning no money from food etc, does this finally mean he is admitting he is totally inept as a manager or is he so self-centred that he wants the chance to remain undefeated for his own ego above what is best for the club?

@18 you can maybe make a case for Ally if it was only 1 or 2 embarrassing cup exits but 8! As for your glory hunter reference. What are you talking about? Think you will find all teams with bigger budgets than the teams they are playing expect to beat them. Of course if you are happy about all the exits then maybe that says more about you and the type of person you are