Rangers Banter Archive February 13 2020

 

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13 Feb 2020 23:16:07
Now i know everybody is mega hurtin as am i. But having seen the stat stephen miller from rangers archives page has produced. Points total from this season after 25 games and points total after 25 games the last 3 times we have won the league were actually a point better off. I really do think gerrards inexperience is costing us though. Celtic are looking strong and striding out infront at the minute and honestly look out of site.



14 Feb 2020 07:35:39
Yes ail interesting post. We have to ride the storm.



14 Feb 2020 10:01:18
Celtic went through a rough patch, we beat them and Lennon changed his tactics now they are smashing the rest of the sides. I’m not saying we need to change style or shape but we need to be open to it in certain games if we played two strikers etc it gives them more to think about and more chance of us feeding of second balls up top, Alfredo has came back off suspension well off form which is hurting us. He seems more intent on falling over than shooting, low confidence and obviously a lot of attention has been on him lately can’t be helping matters. God knows what happened in Dubai though, players came back injured or got injured as soon as they played afterwards.



14 Feb 2020 11:57:33
Celtic will very likely go through another bad patch if a key player like Edouard is injured but in all honesty I think they have more strength in depth than us right now and this is our main problem.

If Stevie G was Celtic manager and Neil Lennon (without the baggage) was ours, I think SG would be big favourite to lift the title.

He certainly has his faults but it's amazing some of the stick SG is getting on here.



14 Feb 2020 12:13:38
Problem with being better off now than when we won the league is that Celtic are 10x stronger domestically than they were 3IAR. Numbers speak for themselves - they have 10 more points than we did for any of those 3IAR league wins. Standards have hiked big time. We now need to be way better than that to overcome them.



14 Feb 2020 13:46:26
Various fans on here have mentioned moving Tav forward, and getting e. g. Polster at RB, and they have been shot down with comments like, 'TAV is a RB ebd of', sorry, but he's a rotten RB compared to people who played in that position over the 60 years I've followed Rangers. We need to change the formation now, and go with two up to give Alfie some support, this current set up is now making him look like a two bob player, and a frustrated one at that. If SG won't admit that the system needs changing then that could finish his career as a Manager, even thus early, I want him to succeed, but he needs to open his eyes and be ruthless in achieving his goals.



14 Feb 2020 23:36:16
We're not going to win. not got the winning mentality or ability.



13 Feb 2020 22:43:36
Its so ironic fellow bears, that our loan midfielder at hibs greg docherty, has already been very impressive for hibs after just 3 games. Already the biggest majority of hibs fans want doch signed on a permanent deal at the end of the season. They're absolutely raving about doch and some are already saying that young doch IS the replacement for john mcginn. What a compliment don't you think? Hope gerrard keeps docherty at rangers and gives him his chance of becoming a regular rangers player for the start of next season, as he's a box to box midfielder.



14 Feb 2020 00:17:40
Said before don't know why weet him go, I'd have much rather him than aribo in the engine room at rugby park last night. Big aribo has great feet but he's so lazy its frustrating.



14 Feb 2020 05:27:16
As much as I'd love Doc to stay at Rangers, it's obvious Gerard just doesn't fancy him for whatever reason. Now I know folk say he sees him day in day out in training, but hopefully he's looking at what he's done at Hibs so far. However, for the benefit of his career, Doc would be as well leaving, because he will never get a chance under Gerard.



14 Feb 2020 07:36:53
Only half an hour or so and only an opinion (I’ve seen nothing else of him at hivs) but against BSC (I also accept it was cold and windy) Doc was utter garbage, passing was brutal, couldn’t hold the ball at all against them, I like him but don’t think he’s anything like a solution to our problems.



14 Feb 2020 08:28:39
Agree, Docherty has what our midfield is missing and that is energy and drive. Not sure if he has the final pass as not seen enough of him but its simple, doesn't fit into SG's system.
I expect him to go at the end of the season.



14 Feb 2020 08:51:41
The thing that I've seen since the break is that we play at a lethargic pace, no venom, no intensity, no belief, that comes from the players, not the Manager, but his job is to sort it out, and the only way to do that is bench the under performers, which he hasn't done, so yes, he is culpable.

I always liked Docherty because of hid drive and enthusiasm, something that is not being shown by many of the current (so called) first team.

If this doesn't improve by the end of this month, or mid-March then he is in trouble and in danger of being sacked.



14 Feb 2020 12:14:37
Don't think Gerrard's feelings about Docherty have anything to do with ability. Knows a mifielder. If anyone does, Stevie does. Docherty is good enough for Rangers. Gerrard knows this. But it has nothing to do with that.



15 Feb 2020 11:29:19
Before January there is not one person would have had Docherty in our starting 11.
A couple of decent games for Hibs and a few below par performances from Rangers and suddenly he is our saviour? 🤣😂🤣.



13 Feb 2020 20:53:35
Scatter guns are out in force on here and with good good reason, what a total pathetic showing from players and manager. Even if Gerrard has lost dressing room do the players have not one ounce of self respect for them self's man disgusting display. SG you got weeks to save your job, let's see what your made of!



13 Feb 2020 22:14:46
Steven Gerrard will still be the rangers manager for the start of next season i've got no doubt about that! He ain't got weeks to save his job as far as i'm concerned! He'll be given at least another season.



13 Feb 2020 22:27:39
Steven Gerrard local. Based on what? Not a chance mate sorry.



13 Feb 2020 22:37:57
Your right coops I can’t believe anybody that says we haven’t improved under SG. I will always here a Gers fans opinion but c'mon guys we were taking 5-0 doings off Celtic. We were drawing 5 each with Hibs we were 3rd in lge behind the sheep. i'm as sick as any Gers fan but keep the faith we can’t afford to keep sacking managers.



13 Feb 2020 23:05:45
As1974,i agree with s. g. l. For the simple reason we've not got the money to terminate sg contract, but all the shouting on hear is way out, we were 8 points behind them in 2008 going to the split, and we still won the league, c'mon rangers supporters let's see some support for rangers.



14 Feb 2020 05:49:32
Paul SG can't be sacked for the reason you've stated but he will walk. He hasn't seen pressure yet. he's flawed mate. How can all the things that everyone else sees he cant? He needs to learn his trade at a lower league team. We need tried and tested. No more "projects".



14 Feb 2020 06:34:37
AS 1974, how about a wager on it for charity then my friend? I say 200% that steven gerrard will be the rangers manager going into next season and you're obviously saying he won't. Name your stake and the loser gives the agreed bet money to the winner's chosen charity! How about it?



14 Feb 2020 08:16:22
Yeah guys of course we have improved under StevieG and no one can deny that. The system we play definitely suits Euro League but I don’t think it’s suits Scottish Football and we really struggle to break down teams every week? . I said it yesterday, we might not have a say on StevieG as he might walk as another season without a trophy would damage his future job prospects. He would get a descent Championship club no bother and put his job up here down to experience and blame the fact the Tim’s had so much cash even though he’s been backed to the hilt by the board.! Nobody will stand in StevieG future plans and he will be ruthless ✌️🇬🇧🇬🇧.



14 Feb 2020 08:55:55
Totally agree Paulellen,
lot of points to play forget.
It is out of our hands, but I'm sure they will drop more points.
But we do need to start playing like a team again and not individuals, we win and lose as a team.



14 Feb 2020 09:12:22
I'd be very surprised if SG walked. The club are obviously looking long term, he seems to be as well. Got a contract till 2024. Not sure there's many tried and tested out there, ( I assume that means a title winner, that we could afford) van bronkhorst? Maybes?



14 Feb 2020 11:48:04
Mr Grumpy wrote elsewhere gvb on three million a season in China, he’s not coming to rangers.



14 Feb 2020 11:51:01
@stevengerard loyal. Great idea mate! Say £20? Loser pays it to a charity of their choice?

@MrGrumpy I really don't know but the last 3 out of 4 managers are projects like I said. All failed. I really don't think we can stop 10 in a row. God I hope I'm wrong!

Someone mentioned a post about our team in Europe. Yip I think that's the way to pay but in our league it's not.

Very interested to see who he plays tomorrow. If it's not big changes then god help us.



14 Feb 2020 12:17:07
Didn't know that john25, that's a nonstarter then.



14 Feb 2020 14:32:50
Don’t think there’s many “scatter guns” - more like sniper rifles aimed directly at the problem, which is the manager.



14 Feb 2020 14:35:22
Yes I agree Mr Grumpy, I’m afraid my believe is we need to stay strong and continue to progress.
There may be much more pain before we win league again.
I like you have been through two nine in a rows, seen Aberdeen, United totally dominate us, we will return and we will dominate again.
Remember they tried to destroy us, it takes a long time to rebuild.
RTID.



14 Feb 2020 14:37:51
As a matter of interest how much do people think we pay our manager. I’m led to believe it’s 15k a week following his recent extended contract. Plus massive bonus to win league.



14 Feb 2020 16:19:06
I'll be honest john25 I thought he was on £30k a week.
Still think we can salvage something out of this season.



14 Feb 2020 18:48:34
He may be Mr Grumpy. My point was if we pay him 15-30 k we r not likely to pay gvb or Benitez 65-100 k a week.
We just need to work hard and decide who comes in next year to improve team.



15 Feb 2020 11:02:29
As1974 . you are well entitled to your opinion. my opinion is that I have never seen such a fair weather supporter in my life such as yourself .
It’s three bad results and a dip . I wish some people on here had a little more faith . We beat the manks and you were all salivating. now three vas results the Lynch mob are out. no wonder the east end are pissin themselves laughing . no metal or stayin power fir sone supporters.



13 Feb 2020 20:45:01
Said on another post we need a coach that's got the brains to build a team from the back just like souness done big bruisers of defenders hard mids a creative mid two wingers that's actually wingers a player that's good enough to give freedom on park and get 2 strikers that can play together up top it would cost a lot but it's the only way for ward I'd bin SG no enough experience for rangers and b4 som1 comes on and says with who with any 1 that can build at with players like I've mentioned it's not science man it should b basic silky players aren't hard enough for our league man am still raging and il probably no sleep again tonight with anger disappointment frustration we need to fix this mess it can't go on any longer it's just no good enough il be still angry 2morro aaarrrrggghhh😠😠.



13 Feb 2020 22:17:19
We all as bears are disappointed and angry mate. You're no different to hundreds/ thousands of us! We're all hurting like hell.



13 Feb 2020 23:07:24
Dsgersfan, we only managed to get the big burly defenders& team to ibrox because the big burly guys own country was banned from playing in europe. fact.



14 Feb 2020 10:26:04
So DS, you want 4 big defenders ( when the modern day FB are attackers) you want 2 hard MIDs, 1 creative mid, 2 wingers, a free role player and 2 strikers? Including a GK. i'm sure that's 13 players!
Now you say our players don't work in this leave, isn't this the same players who were strolling games pre Xmas? With the same manager etc. To me its down to the attitude of the players on the park, yes Gerrard sometimes leaves it too late for subs, however it shouldn't matter who we pick out of our squad we should have enough to win every game, if we match it with grit determination and hard work. Meaning the attitude of the players needs questioning. I've played football all my days at various levels and in more than just the UK and no matter who the manager was I always put in 100% and always believed i would win my personal battle and the team would win the game. No matter the manager, the tactics, the weather or the surface. Players should be good enough to adapt to these things. For me the blame lies at the players door and its time they buck up their ideas and take responsibility.



14 Feb 2020 23:37:33
Dsgersfan. That type of player in current climate would be in stands more turn on the pitch.
Gerrard will be here to at least end of season I’ve said before we’ve had a really poor start to the new year but I don’t recall all the bin him get him out when we were playing Celtic of the park and were 2 points behind etc.

He has faults no doubt but to bin him would make us a laughing stock after 3 poor results. a post I logged other day I mentioned pep guardiloa Givem Man City 20 odd point behind is he a dud does he get savaged is he told he’s clueless inept Etc no and he’s dealing with players combined in 100s of millions we need to get a grip.



13 Feb 2020 20:27:05
To those who are suggesting something must have happened behind the scenes and that the players aren't trying as hard as they were pre Dubai, it's utter nonsense. Nor has our bottle crashed.

It's far simpler than that. We have one style of play and teams have worked out how to play against it. Our failing is in not knowing how to change it. Whereas SG seems adamant we need to find different ways of doing the exact same thing. Ie. breaking teams down by passing through them, maybe we need to look at our formation, style and tactics.

For me the players are trying every bit as hard as pre Xmas. It's not mentality.



14 Feb 2020 06:07:49
Gerard said something different post match on wednesday - did he not say he thought the players had the strength and mentality to sustain a title push however they're proving him wrong. So Gerard seems to questioning the mentality.



14 Feb 2020 12:45:05
SirStruth this is why I'm beginning to worry about SG. I don't think he sees what many others do. He thinks it's mentality, and I think it's tactics.



13 Feb 2020 20:18:40
Seen a video of Alfie getting racialy abused at rugby park last night this is getting beyond a joke.



13 Feb 2020 20:41:15
Shocking mate, plus the wee bigot griffiths stirring it on Twitter again, liking a tweet calling all rangers fans dirty orange bas₩#%ds.



13 Feb 2020 21:08:37
Could u imagine if that scenario was the other way round a rangers player liking a tweet someone wrote about Celtic being f#@-+n b#$+*&ds unreal. I wouldn't be surprised if nothing gets said about the killie fan.



13 Feb 2020 23:13:02
Sangil80, i can't see why our club doesn't make a tape off the corrupt refferrs in our league, then send it to uefa, but the problem with that is its all ex celtic players that sit on there panels, the only way we can get justice is by being pattient and waiting till times right to do so, until then the only way we could get justice is by beating teams by 4 or5 goals, because i think that's the only way to get rid of these officials,



14 Feb 2020 00:20:13
Griffiths is untouchable now apparently 🤷‍♂️ guarantee no sfa charge 👍.



14 Feb 2020 07:20:28
I think your right paulellen but it's still not right why should we need to score 5 goals to win a game of football but your correct as two or three big decisions going against us every game and the abuse alfrefo receives is unreal.



14 Feb 2020 14:30:36
Sangil80, the only way we can move forward is by getting an impartial ref to look at just some of the injustices that have went against us this season (again) ) celtic complained about the refs and have not lost the league since then, var is the only way to get justice, fact,



13 Feb 2020 19:09:06
Celtic seem to be able to keep winning.
Their first team is comparable to ours. Arguably a stronger squad.
We out played them twice recently but find ourselves all but out of the title race.
To me it's about player mentality. When you think to some of our powerhouse, no surrender displays in Europe, its clear they have it in them. But the bread and butter long haul of the league? They can't seem to cope.
Is this down to poor man management?
Do the players have a problem with the coaches tactics?
Or, do we simply have too many Indians and no chief on the park?



13 Feb 2020 20:53:11
Bimotablue, the squad is not big enough to go a season at the same pace, ie if sg had the power to bring the current liverpool team up to play in our league, would we lose the league because the opposition has tippled ow we play, nope, we don't have enough reasabley good players.



13 Feb 2020 18:20:15
I think it's about time the the board grew a set of balls and demand why the refs in Scotland have an agenda against rangers. Seems like it's every game now that we have h
uge decisions against us because of the poor standard of refs.



13 Feb 2020 21:13:43
Robbieg69, yip ide imagine the players heads go down when they see the refs only give awards against them, never in there favours. fact.



13 Feb 2020 17:37:04
Very unlikely the league will be won this year. When I seen the team i thought not strong enough, Haji and Aribo - 2 luxury players, we can't afford one let alone two against Kilmarnock. Aribo can't cope with Left mid and looks lost when up front, I've never seen him win a header.
Stick to the basics Gers.
Get back to solid dependable players.
Shag
Tav Gold Katic BB
Jack Davis Kamara
Arfield Morelos Kent.



13 Feb 2020 17:39:15
Kent also a luxury player, though he’s about as luxurious as single ply bog roll.



13 Feb 2020 17:47:47
kent is a waste of a jersey----all tricks no end product -apart from that I agree.



13 Feb 2020 17:53:16
Goldsin reliable
Rank rotten n the problem. we have at the back. imo.



13 Feb 2020 18:10:09
Kent is the only serious pace we have, he has scored a few goals, tracks back all the time and ties up 2 defenders at a time. I do agree though his end product has to improve.



13 Feb 2020 18:18:56
JJ has pace too but not a favourite.



13 Feb 2020 20:01:44
Get back to solid dependable players yet u have names goldson and kamara in your line up. Bit of a head scratcher that. I believe i have called both out since start of season only to get pelter in return. Goldson had some howlers last season and has continued on this season.



13 Feb 2020 21:06:55
We got to a cup final, in Europe after xmas, beat Celtic at parkhead and were effectively top of the league come the break with Kamara and Goldson. No head scratching required. Aribo, Ojo Flanagan Haliday Haji (i know a bit unfair) are the issue - not one has given a 90 minute 9/ 10 performance all season. The rest of our dependable players have all produced excellent performances at one point or another some 7 or 8 every game. We can't afford to have say 2 players at a 5 or 6 for an entire game.



13 Feb 2020 21:16:04
Paul86, i stated on hear way before a ball was kicked we won't win nothing with tav and golson in our team, that's still my view of things,



13 Feb 2020 17:21:47
Should get greg docherty back after loan.



13 Feb 2020 21:17:57
Honestntoun loyal, we shouldn't have loaned him out in the first place mate.



13 Feb 2020 16:50:09
Loads of posters seem to want SG out my question is
Who do you want in?
Do you want to risk new manager to stop 10 in a row?
I still think a lot of the malaise has to stop at the players door how can we go from 2 points behind with a game in hand to 10points behind and regardless of the game in hand have league no longer in our hands in such a short space of time?
His so called naivety and ineptitude served us well pre Christmas and yet everyone jumps on the bandwagon get him out
We don't have the depth of squad in terms of quality to Chop and change. every successful team has a core that's a constant subject to injuries etc we don't have that so it not his "favourites" that are holding us back it's Injuries to Helander Barasic Jack Tav Defoe and the inevitability of Morelos getting suspended the finances to have quality back up ain't there
It's time for the players to man up
I'm not saying SG perfect but he's not as bad as many on here make out
He has to learn to use substitutes more effectively not just like for like and for the love of god give them 20mins not 5.



13 Feb 2020 16:58:48
Excellent post, we have an excellent squad and they now need to deliver.



13 Feb 2020 17:10:21
@Bluebluesea. So. how long is it going to take SG to make substitutes at the right time? he's been here 18 months and not done it. Under SG he won't give people a chance. That's one of his many problems. Youth? Where? You keep playing the same team and formation and except to win. I doesn't and won't work.



13 Feb 2020 17:21:17
Surely you can’t really say we have an excellent squad until they start delivering trophies.



13 Feb 2020 17:22:55
Yup too early to dump Stevie even if we could afford to Blu blue.

Although we have different circumstances financially from the dark side, lennon would be long gone if he had results like Stevie has for us.



13 Feb 2020 17:40:54
“Do you want to risk a new manager to stop 10 in a row? ”

Given that Gerrard has had two attempts at it and failed, I would rather have someone who has proven that they can win a title rather than give him a third crack at failure.

Gio Van Bronckhorst for me. Won the Dutch league with Feyenoord who had to compete against Ajax and PSV.



13 Feb 2020 18:06:18
We can't risk SG on another season. Well that's my opinion.



13 Feb 2020 18:20:10
As1974 that’s a huge failing no doubt but you must concede that the players must take a large amount of blame for this and as I said I hope he does learn but to bin him is madness I’ve yet to see any post giving a sensible replacement option Walter Smith isn’t it.



13 Feb 2020 18:42:16
Face reality, Celtic have more income, more winning experience, a manager who has won the league, years of champions league entry, plenty of trophies over the last 7-8 years. Do you really expect us to demand beating them and winning the league when our income and winning experience are so inferior. Yes, we are firmly in 2nd with the rest a huge distance behind, but to overtake the Manks will take years of patient development and some luck. Booting SG out will not help the journey we are on, he is bringing in some great players, and when we get it right we are awesome, just doesn't happen as regular as we would all like. Let's believe and support, we are all dyed in the blood Gers fans.



13 Feb 2020 20:05:57
Swagman do you honestly think we could put a package together that would entice Van Bronckhorst from Chinese Super League? We need to be real, with our finances we ain’t competing with them nor could majority of EPL
It’s a great shout one of the few that’s actually put a name out there
I can’t get my head round how after a really poor start to new year we think it’s acceptable to forget first half of season and bin the gaffer after 3 poor results thus far this year.



13 Feb 2020 20:37:38
@Bluebluesea I do also put some blame on the players but the bottom line is mate if their not playing for you then you need to drop them. Tav for instance. Been utter garbage if we are honest but he's the captain (why I don't know) but he is a few who've been letting the team down. I don't want to only single out him. It's very clear that Stevie has his favourites. Other may disagree but he keeps overlookinhg players that would do a turn, yet he sends them out on loan or just warms the bench.
On Saturday get Stweart and Jones in the team. I hate to say it but we need to drop Morelos. His heads not in it. Or if we play Morelos go with 2 upfront. get this 4-3-3 changed. Drop Aribo and get Davis back in. Kamara isint good enough either.



13 Feb 2020 21:21:43
As 2974. , the current team are not good enough to win the league. its not gerrards fault,



13 Feb 2020 22:00:59
@Paulellen. So who's fault is it? He signed most of the players so the buck stops with him.



13 Feb 2020 22:20:36
Not gerrards fault, 20 odd million to spend since he's took over, not many good signings in there, no plan b, can't make a correct sub, can't seem to get the best out of players think some fault is his.



13 Feb 2020 22:29:35
The team aren’t good enough to win the league but it’s not the fault of the person who signed them? Heard it all now! 😂.



13 Feb 2020 23:22:21
Swagaman youve heard nowt yet, we have not got a big enough pool of good players needed to win this league, at this moment in time, what's silly about that, do you think geo van bronchurst could win the league, with this group of players? We needed to get a manager like sg, a guy with a bit of respect in the game



14 Feb 2020 13:02:48
Again - THIS GROUP OF PLAYERS THAT HE SIGNED!

He thought they were good enough to win the league or he wouldn’t have signed them!



14 Feb 2020 14:37:49
Theswagman, yip sg signed them, players he thought could win the league, but if money wasnt a problem, say for instance gerrard was giving a blank check book do you honestly think he would have signed half these players, plus he has a good enough record against celtic, the main thing is beating celtic, as they are going for 9.



13 Feb 2020 16:46:36
Considering Gary Mac takes most of the training, and Beale is the tactics man. Just what does SG actually do apart from continue to pick he's pets and throw the rest under a bus when things go tits up?



13 Feb 2020 17:09:12
Slim Jim you clearly don't have a clue how things work then. The likes of WS, sir Alex and the likes didn't take training sessions. That's why you have a backroom team. Some folk really, have no clue. i'm due ditching this site its boiling my blood haha.



13 Feb 2020 15:39:58
i seriously think STEVIE G has to stop being one IGNORANT TO THE FACT you need to win the battles to win the war . pro footballers who can't play on astroturf parks yet we have Jordan Jones who played on this park for 2 years dosnt get a sniff the boy destroyed our defence last year but can't get a game . halliday is a wage that could be put into a decent left back . aribo needs sunshine to play arfield is a number 10 player not a sitting midfielder . and the teachers pet OJO is absolutely hopeless but gets on the park every game RANT OVER .



13 Feb 2020 17:22:33
What game did he destroy our defence last season? Fair enough he scored a winning goal against us but he hardly ran riot that day.



13 Feb 2020 15:13:41
Boss looks bewildered and fed up with inept bekow standard rubbish he managing
Matter of time i reckon
Derek mcinness or billy davies next
Go for it boys😂😂😂👍.



13 Feb 2020 15:40:05
He signed the below standard rubbish.



13 Feb 2020 16:20:06
I’ve said this before the players must take a fair share of the blame. We beat Celtic on 29th and they took all the pats on the back off of fans. The problem is they thought the hard work was done. The same thing had happened as last year when we beat them they’ve dined out on it and believed all the press they got.



13 Feb 2020 19:47:55
Derek mcinnes what u been smoking. If we ever brought him in I couldn't go whilst he was there . But seriously I backed SG but am now starting to have my doubts . Its become demoralising and really hard to watch . How did we go from playing the way we were before the break to like this now . Everybody could see at the start of the 2nd half he need to change it but not him . Panic sub in last 5 min.



13 Feb 2020 21:26:59
Tiill i die, if either of the two you are suggesting got the managers job at rangers fc, i would be giving up a season ticket that's been in my family for more years than i care to mention, pair of bra cupps combined.



13 Feb 2020 23:23:48
The swagman sg brought in who we could afford, at this time.



13 Feb 2020 14:47:52
At this time of need I feel I can pass on some advice to SG.
Having managed the Bellahouston Former Pupils 'B' team in the 1950's - (Don Kitchenbrand era), I had problems keeping the team spirit up due to having to deal with a star player who at times simply didn't turn up etc.
In our case our star has now reached that point where his need for praise renders everything else a poor second and makes Team Spirit impossible to achieve.

Steve has to bite the bullet and stop giving him preference. To me that red card indicates he has no feelings for the team or indeed the supporters.

Very sad I know but to me its the Star or the team.



13 Feb 2020 15:03:18
Good post perhaps the contunual new and improved contracts for morelos are causing problems in the camp. Time to let him go and reinvest the money.



13 Feb 2020 15:11:19
Who got red card?



13 Feb 2020 16:39:06
Sorry I intended to say red card contribution but anyway my real intent was to cheer us up. Look at my managing experience. Cheers.



14 Feb 2020 14:31:48
But if we don't receive genuine bids what money are we going to 'reinvest'?



13 Feb 2020 13:09:06
can anyone say "HELICOPTER SUNDAY"---They will slip up! ---but the question will remain ---WILL WE?



13 Feb 2020 14:01:11
Deeceee, i give in, what's your post about mate?



13 Feb 2020 14:04:44
I shouldn't have to explain---move on pls.



13 Feb 2020 14:27:25
It was make or break this season king away there will no more soft loans need to be self reliant that means Morelos and probaly Goldson away in summer . money from that huge rebuilding ahead whoever is manager . so who knows if we will closer to Celtic or further away or be lucky to get second.



13 Feb 2020 15:09:39
There is NO CHANCE of celtic slipping up! The league is over!



13 Feb 2020 15:15:44
Its over
We not good enough
Need to accept it sadly.



13 Feb 2020 17:48:08
I didn’t actually blame tavernier for defeat just thought as a captain he shirked tackles. As a team we were shocking.



13 Feb 2020 13:04:03
Feeling sad and embarrassed with the recent results there is a nervousness and fear in the players but if they would just realise that fans can take getting beat as l9ng as every 0kayer is out there givo g everything for the team.



13 Feb 2020 12:08:42
Yet again shocking performance! We are too slow, lacking desire, bullied, lightweight, clueless! Got a captain who broke his own personal best record by shirking out of 4 tackles last night, well done James! How you must enspire your team mates! As a team we lack the mentality, hunger and desire.



13 Feb 2020 12:56:16
Shocking post, watch the game again and Tav did some sterling defending, not his fault we lost.



13 Feb 2020 13:43:29
Same old bias against Tav - plenty of coverage of him shouting at other player including Alf for lack of urgency.

Just come out and say sit - what is the agenda against Tav?

His stats prove that he is one of our top and most consistent performers and we missed him badly when he was out.



13 Feb 2020 14:03:24
B gate w, what's your thoughts on the officialls this season.



13 Feb 2020 14:22:21
Would b blaming the 2 centre halfs b4 mate. Tav played decent.



13 Feb 2020 15:17:29
Goldson a problem and has been all season
Stevies fav i don't get it.



13 Feb 2020 15:41:31
Till a die on here last week many were saying we can’t sell goldston for less than 20-25 million.
Our fans need to waken up and smell the coffee.
These guys r here for a reason, no one wants the majority of them.



13 Feb 2020 16:59:04
Wow John, no one wants the majority of them. Just wow!



13 Feb 2020 17:01:55
Kriss tell me who has actually tried to by our superstars that every one now wants rid off.



13 Feb 2020 17:40:33
Im not privvy to inside dealing a within football mate, maybe you are "in the know" but i'm sorry mate your point on that is garbage. No disrespect but to say, noe one else wants our players that's why they are here is wrong. Is that your view on every player in Scotland past and present?



13 Feb 2020 17:50:15
Paulellen officials are of dreadful standard.



13 Feb 2020 17:57:15
20 mill for goldson😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.



13 Feb 2020 19:16:54
Kri55 no my point is they think they are better than they actually are, we need at least five players who can go straight into first team.
I don’t see my point as garbage, SG says we have never received a firm offer for any present first team player.
Celtic, hibs, Motherwell sell players for millions, who was last player we sold for millions, unfortunately they aren’t top players with possible exception Morelos and Borna.



13 Feb 2020 20:20:56
So your saying Motherwell players are better than rangers players? Name me 1 Motherwell player who would improve our starting 11?
Tav, jack, katic, Morelos, barasic to name but a few could make us a good few million. Sorry mate but your point is garbage, i get people can be annoyed and frustrated with the past 4/ 5 results but what your saying is silly mate.



13 Feb 2020 20:52:51
Kri55 it’s not an argument, they just sold a player for 1.95 million with a million of add ons, when did we last do that.
I’m not annoyed I’ve followed our club for 65 years not missed an ibrox game in over 30 years. Believe me when I have seen worse teams than this one.
We are five years away from where we want to be imo
We are all entitled to have a view, I respect your opinions,
David Turnbull would improve our midfield.



13 Feb 2020 21:04:16
They NEEDED to sell him for 1.5m mate, but in all honesty i cannot believe your comparing us to Motherwell that says it all to me. I respect. your own opinion mate and il call it a day at that. We all want the same thing at the end of the day and that's success for rangers. let's get behind the team. All the best mate.



13 Feb 2020 21:23:42
You too Kriss.



13 Feb 2020 11:51:03
Im not on here for arguments or whatever but folk saying Gerrard out are having a laugh. You do realise this is the same Gerrard who was guiding us to wins and comfortable wins pre Xmas. The players need to shoulder the blame here, we have enough in personell to beat these teams, no matter what formation etc Gerrard deploys. Yes he left it too late for subs last night and he has came out and taken his share of the blame. But for folk to say sack Gerrard have a word with yourself.



13 Feb 2020 12:20:16
I agree with some of your points but the manager is too cautious when the games in danger of being lost.



13 Feb 2020 12:24:03
Don’t want him sacked but him taking the blame is all well and good he leaves the subs far to late every game specially the ones we r struggling in so people are rite to question if he is the man to take us forward or not when he clearly dsnt and hasn’t learned from clear mistakes. Av always said it’s fine to make a mistake only if u dnt make the same mistake twice never mind umpteen times in his case.



13 Feb 2020 13:41:56
He’s out of his depth. He has one tactic he is unable to change and every decent manager has him figured out.



13 Feb 2020 14:19:35
Yeah but the season lasts longer than December and we have done the same this season as last. The performances from the players have been atrocious since the winter break but nothing changes. Certain players make the same mistakes but never get dropped.



13 Feb 2020 16:34:18
Another one of Gerrard’s mistakes he makes over and over not dropping under performing players. Well he does but only certain ones but others seem to b able to play as bad as they like without any punishment.



13 Feb 2020 16:53:06
Agreed the season goes all, year but my point is, this is the same manager and players who were doing well pre Xmas, the gaffer isn't out his depth FML. he's learning. The players need to step up and show their worth and show they have the bottle for it.
Il ask you this swagman, who would you replace SG with at this moment, i'm sure i read you say Walter smith for a season with GVB as no2 with a view to take over. Now i dunno where to start with that suggestion tbh haha. Sacking managers n starting again isn't the answer for us. So what if they win 9 in a row, i agree if we don't win silverwewr this year SG is under massive pressure. But il never give up hope! Support the players and gaffer through good times and bad. i'm not asking everyone to agree and your all entitled to your opinion which i respect. This is my view and opinion so let's respect it as well.



13 Feb 2020 21:11:22
Kri just read your posts re Sg and players in the main we are saying the same thing, I also wrote today speaking against people suggesting Sg go. I said we can’t start again, what we need is five players to go into first team.
We were playing well pre new year, I think what happened was we lost key players from first 11. Whilst most won't agree Helander with his experience was a big loss, as was Alf and tav who had came onto a good game.



13 Feb 2020 23:31:08
John i would drop tav& goldson, replace them with polster& edmunson, both have shown up better than tave or goldson.



13 Feb 2020 11:07:40
Moving forward guys I think Goldson needs taken out the team for a couple of games the same way SG does with other players. I've said before that Goldson is fine, he's ok but that is all he is. His positional sense isn't great and he needs to work on that. When your centre half partner goes to challenge for a header you need to drop in just incase the striker wins the flick on but Goldson always stands square and we get caught in behind. This happens constantly and he's not learning from it. A lot of people criticise Katic distribution but my heart is in my mouth when Goldson is on the ball. If the long diagonal to Barisic when he is playing is not on he is shocking. He dribbles with it right up to an opposition player and then turns back toward goal running the risk of losing possession. The gaffer needs to drop an undroppable in my opinion to send out a message to everyone else and for me Goldson is that man.



13 Feb 2020 11:14:37
You can't single one player mate and there's no way SG will drop him. he's been in the team since he joined the club.



13 Feb 2020 11:25:47
MOCBear. Never a truer word said. I have been saying for months that Goldson certainly needs to be dropped, His job is to defend, Not try fancy long passes out off defence, Because he hasn’t got the skill to do that, 🇦🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⚽️👍😎.



13 Feb 2020 11:32:28
There is more than Goldson needing taken out the team mate but i'm just highlighting where I see him going wrong.



13 Feb 2020 11:52:08
As1974. Maybe it’s a bit unfair to single one player out. But he needs dropped. And it shouldn’t matter if he was in the team when Gerrard joined Rangers, Gerrard needs to grow a pair and wield the axe, Not only him but a few others, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️👍😎.



13 Feb 2020 12:31:12
I'm with you Cunny but it won't happen. He has played probably every game under SG. Seen posts saying those asking for SG to get the sack is absurd etc. No its not. peoole are judging the man and not the manager. The jobs too big for him. That's the reality.



13 Feb 2020 13:02:34
Now you see that's not a reality, that's just your opinion. 🤔.



13 Feb 2020 14:08:42
Mr Grupmpy read the posts. It's not just mine. Are you saying SG is going to take us forward then? Come on counter act what I'm saying.



13 Feb 2020 14:10:36
The thing is guys. How the f##k can we be in a great position before the Winter break, Then after the players have sunned themselves in Dubai, Come back and play 💩. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺⚽️👍😎.



13 Feb 2020 14:55:40
We've had an awful February, no question but I try to look longer term than 4-5 games. We're better than we were last season, more points than this time last season, still in Europe after Xmas.
Last night's performance was bad, even then we should have won (Morelos goal should have stood)
That doesn't I think SG should be imune to criticism.



13 Feb 2020 15:45:50
Goldson could drop his shorts and take a dump on the halfway line and Gerrard wouldn’t drop him.



13 Feb 2020 17:17:27
@Mr grumpy my question was is SG going to take us forward? It's more than 4-5 games. Try 7 or 8. Very poor in most of them. His inability to change a game is going to cost him. So many negatives rather than positives.



13 Feb 2020 19:08:16
Getting better, season after season, is that not moving the club forward?
still being in Europe after Xmas, is that not moving the team/ club forward?
We got to a final and should have won it. We beat our main rivals at their own ground. Is that not progress?



14 Feb 2020 11:54:17
at the moment its as if Mark Warburton has come back, possession football at a snails pace and this from a group of players who are supposed to be of better quality, there pace and tempo is too slow, so whenever an opposing sides few attacks breaks down instead of quickly moving into there half as quickly as possible we fart around passing the ball backwards, are we now seeing the lack of experience in management from SG, I AM A BIG FAN OF HIS AND WE KNOW BY HIS FOOTBALL YEARS HE IS NO QUITTER, BUT I THINK A LITTLE HELP FROM AN EXPERIENCED MANAGER MIGHT HELP.



13 Feb 2020 10:26:15
I honestly think gerrard is on borrowed time but if he does go what manager will want to come in to try to stop them reaching 10 in a row. Nightmare.



13 Feb 2020 11:50:51
I said it last night, Gerrard will leave the club soon as his Managerial future would suffer if this continues. He would not want to be the man in charge next year if we lost another title! I really believed in StevieG, but the football is honestly boring and we virtually struggle in every match now no matter the opposition! The board have backed him and maybe a rookie Boss was not enough for the job🇬🇧✌️.



13 Feb 2020 15:20:12
Short memories
Utter push
He was great when we won at the hole
Irritating garbage.



13 Feb 2020 16:39:58
Yately1, i often agree with your posts, so who would your own personal choice to take over from gerrard mate?



13 Feb 2020 16:53:56
Coop, It really is a hard one as it may take another couple of years for us to win the Title? I do like Steven but feel his lack of management experience has cost us and it’s gutted me as we had this Title! With StevieG he could probably walk away tomorrow with a new club and it wouldn’t bother him as I do believe he is ruthless and won’t let anyone stand in his future? On a future Boss when required, where do we look or do we need to lower our standards? The one thing Lennon knows is Scottish football and how to win! We need someone hungry and with Scottish football knowledge and there’s not many about? Like I say a hard one and probably why we picked Steven in first place as don’t forgot 3 months before we offered job to that ex Ger player who didn’t accept for some reason? Cheers bud✌️✌️🇬🇧.



13 Feb 2020 16:56:20
Tilla Die, You are correct! But we are Glasgow Rangers and should be challenging for every honour and apart from this years Cup Final we haven’t ✌️✌️✊.



13 Feb 2020 21:45:57
Yately, of course we are okay we lost the cup final to the ref, but we are still in three comps mate, don't let your chin go down, we will be back to winning ways soon.



13 Feb 2020 09:31:29
First time poster. as much as I hate to say it we need a new management team in place. Gerard has taken us as far as he can. We never should have had a rookie as manager of our once proud club, no matter how big his name was. we’ve spent £7 million on a player not showing he’s even worth £700.000. the look on his face when the second goal went in tonight said it all, out of his depth along with his scouse manager. 15 in a row is now a real scenario. season ticket holder here so I’m entitled to my opinion as I pay my hard earned to watch that drivel. Hagi needed changed at half time as was ineffective. how many times does Kent cut in. We had completely unbelievable decisions go against us tonight in which I believe there should be a public enquiry held over. but we should have been so far ahead it didn’t matter what the ref did. Sorry mr Gerard your time is up.



13 Feb 2020 14:11:46
Gerrard has to go, i think the officials are more to blame than gerrard, its time we done what celtic done, as they have not lost a league since they made all the noise about officials.



13 Feb 2020 16:31:31
Simple question pal, who would you bring in then, to replace gerrard as manager?



13 Feb 2020 17:42:44
Van Bronckhorst.



13 Feb 2020 09:22:06
Never been one to ask for a poll, however think I will on this occasion. This is based purely on the number of fans saying we need to give SG the duration of his contract to get it right.

Question is:

Do we stick with Gerard for the duration of his contract hoping it comes good and watch Celtic potentially get 11 in a row during that time?

As a passionate Rangers fan, I couldn't bear that though to be honest.



{Ed033's Note -


Stick with Gerard poll

13 Feb 2020 09:44:52
I think if Gerrard doesn't win the league next season, he'll leave.



13 Feb 2020 10:17:33
Next season? So your prepared to go through 2 seasons without silverware. Open your eyes man. We can't give him another season. Jobs too big for him. I told you this last week. Like most you didn't listen. Its plain to see.



13 Feb 2020 10:22:32
He shouldn't get the chance to manage the team next year. We are no better than last year and the team have collapsed after the break for the 2nd year in a row. Time up.



13 Feb 2020 10:34:09
Think your right mrgrumpy but let's hope he doesn't have to eh.



13 Feb 2020 11:51:51
The club will not sack Gerrard this season, even if we don't win anything. As1974, you say plenty, it doesn't mean your correct. It's all about opinions. I was responding to sirstruths post.
On a different point who would you like to replace SG?



13 Feb 2020 12:36:28
Mr Grumpy they can't sack him. His contract is up until 2024 I think. We don't have the money to pay him off. I know you were but I said this last week about SG. This hasn't happened overnight. Honestly I don't know at this moment in time but I know that he is clueless when it comes to tactics. He can't change a game and makes subs too late. he's done it since day one. he's not going to change now. Its plain to see and you can't defend that. It can't be any more risks with managers. It's got to be tried and tested. I get why they went for SG as he's high profile but it's not working.



13 Feb 2020 13:44:39
0/ 5 trophies is not acceptable for a Rangers manager and never has been. He has had plenty money to spend - £11m+ this summer. He is out of his depth.

Anyone wanting to keep him has Stockholm Syndrome.



13 Feb 2020 14:15:40
The swagman, there are more of our previous managers that have went 8 nearly 9 years without putting abdent on celtic, but yea your right blame gerrard, you don't support everton as a second team by any chance, do you?



13 Feb 2020 09:06:13
Well well well, I'm over on Thursday for my first game in 20 years and I can honestly say I'm more excited about the blue lagoon chippy than going to watch that shower of p1sh.



13 Feb 2020 10:59:23
Cletus I have terrible news for you pal. I went through the town on the way home from Rugby Park last night and the Blue Lagoon was all boarded up. It was a terrible night all round lol.



13 Feb 2020 11:49:33
Ah, gutted doesn't begin to describe it. Maybe someone can recommend a descent chippy in the town centre?
I've my Morton's rolls and square sausage ordered for collection Friday morning so that's one wee ray of hope lol.



13 Feb 2020 13:45:39
Best chippy is on High St, can’t remember the name of it, just cross from High St station though.



13 Feb 2020 13:58:12
Nice one swagman. Cheers.



13 Feb 2020 16:34:26
Don't go them mate, simple as that!
Nobody is forcing you to go and watch rangers!



13 Feb 2020 08:53:14
IMO. changing gaffers now would be a mistake next season is critical in our history but I think SG has to realise his own failings I've said since day one his subs are too late in the game to really impact it
But at least he's been in position to understand the magnitude of next season
Some of the players need a right good look at themselves the tactics used to play them off park are the same that's not working now Yes he should be looking at tweaks but why wholesale changes to our style?
If you look a pep guardiloa are we saying teams worked him out is he tactically inept because Man City are not firing in the league.



13 Feb 2020 13:22:45
I think it depends if the board sit down with SG and have an open air chat, if he can admit he needs to have more than one tactic and willing to change when necessary the yes, he stays. If however he says he is playing the same system then he should agree to leave as it's not working and won't work over a full season again next season.
I hope he can see his failings but at the moment results and performances are not suggesting he has and his managerial inexperience is showing up big time.



13 Feb 2020 16:37:15
Good thoughtful post Blue blue sea!
Of course gerrard has made mistakes and must rectify them. No bear can pretend he hasn't made mistakes, but imo we've improved under him especially with the mess he inherited! I'd without a doubt give him next season to try and stop them in their quest, if we don't manage to stop 9iar this season. Admitedly its going to be extremely difficult to stop them winning the league this season now. We fight on!



13 Feb 2020 08:37:17
I put up a post last night for some reason it wasn't posted

Had wrote it in sheer anger at the performance maybe better it wasn't posted

The league is over mathematically or not it's over
Celtic have the desire the strength and depth that we lack, Lennon been here before knows how to pick his players up and get them going again
Gerrard doesn't have it I'm afraid

I wanted it so much to work for Gerrard but it's clearly obvious the job is too big for him

The players have stopped performing for him for what ever reasons And stopped fighting for him

But they also need too realise they have stopped playing and fighting for the fans that go there fill out the stadiums to cheer them on they have stopped performing and fighting for the club altogether

Last night was absolutely abysmal

Celtic manage to scout our players bring them on and turn great profits
Why is it we can't do the same our training centre is just a waste of money when was the last time we produced a good young player brought him in and then made excellent profit
Or our scouting system when buying players
So far the players gerrard has brought in have barely been able to get a game from the man that purchased them - that in itself tells you something is not right

We're relying on 36 year olds - 38 year olds
New contracts to 38 year old, our club RANGERS
What on Earth has happened

For me every player on that pitch last night can leave out he back door and Gerrard can follow behind
Tactically clueless - waiting to 83rd - 85th minute to make subs which are never going to make a difference
Players who play well can't keep there spot
Players who play awfull keep there spot more often than not

Guys there will be no difference next year
Honestly wish I could shout this out
There will be no changes next year as Gerrard I'm sorry to say is not the man to take the club any further forward
We have lost so much money in the players he has brought in and we will struggle to sell them on
Who's going to buy Defoe? Davis?
McGregor there all retiring and we're paying them top bucks

Ojo barker (king) when he was here all a waste of money
Flanagan down right awfull
Sadiq Ojaria waste of money

Kent never looking like a £2 million player this season never mind £7 who will buy him back for us to break even (no one in there right mind at present time) more money wasted
I won't go on but you can catch my drift now I'm sure

Gerrard has to go - Celtic will win there 9
But they cannot be left to go do 10
Anyone who thinks that's acceptable is not a real Gers fan in my book

And that's what's going to happen if Steven Gerrard stays - who will want the job god knows?

We have as fans been bitterly let down by this current team once again
Gerrard has let us down in the fact he has no real coaching experience and does not know how to change things, he has no tactics up his sleeve to change a game
And he doesn't know how to inspire the players to get them all playing for him when there heads drop
It's the end of the line I'm afraid

I don't care if we beat them another time this season the league has already gone

Europe will be gone too come next week
Wouldn't be surprised if hearts do us over in cup game as the players really have thrown in the towel

I'm also done for another season - wait to see what changes will happen in the summer
But thing I'm sure of - changes there needs to be - Stevie at the forefront of them changes
Liverpool legend - Not a Rangers legend
Remember that guys.
We gave him his chance - at this moment in time he needs to go to a smaller club and learn his trade - Rangers have been far to big for him it's clear as day.

Liverpool job if it ever comes to him now will be miles and miles down the road.

We need a manger who has experience and can motivate and can change tactics and players need to know those tactics and be training in different situations
It's clear our players don't do that

Scouting system needs urgently addressed also as the players he's brought in a lot of the ones that can't get games - is just shocking
JJ another waste of money doesn't get played
Long enough post won't go on

Just so disappointed and so angry at the performance last night and previous 5 weeks
Officials all need sacked too definitely some sort of agenda there that's also plain to see

Anyway until summer I bid you farewell.



13 Feb 2020 09:28:31
Thestigno, if your post last night was anything like your one today I’m glad they didn’t post it, you accuse players of chucking it then you chuck it, so you’ll support the team as long as they are winning great.

As for your rant it’s not time to sack the manager you need to accept they have a better squad than we have that costs money and we don’t have that years of champions league money has built that squad look at the Jan transfer window they spent real money we got two loan players who couldn’t get a game for their own clubs, look at our bench last night no strength in depth.

our first eleven when fit and on form can match anyone but a few injuries, suspensions and loss of form and we struggle but SG has not got the funds to have the squad to cover all positions we have loans or players who didn’t cost huge sums bar Kent and Helender so unless we find a sugar daddy who is willing to pump in serious cash we will struggle, but if all fans adopted your attitude and walked away every time the going gets tough where would we be my advice is stay away and leave your seat to a true supporter who will stand with the team through the good times and the bad.



13 Feb 2020 09:39:35
Last night was bad, really bad. I have no idea why after the winter break, players who were playing great have suddenly lost form. The players have to take responsibility, so does the manager. We have signed a lot of players and some haven't even got a look in.
Barisic is a good player but we haven't had a proper backup lb, going on 2 years, that's mad.
I don't think we should/ will get rid of the manager but he has to change something.



13 Feb 2020 10:00:07
Twacoos

I said myself we lack depth - did I not?

I also spoke of the absence of money - but the money we have spent has been wasted - who would you put that on then?

And are you also saying we should keep the manger in place, if so - please give your reasons as I gave mine?

I’ve been a die hard supporter for 40 years
I don’t walk away - but I also know when things need changing like they do just now
We are supposed to have better squad than most of the league yet hearts now Kilmarnock
Even struggled against Stranraer

Sorry buddy it needs changing and for me like I say Gerrard is not the man for the job far to big for him
As it’s proven to be

How long do we wait then?

How much more money does he get to go spend in the summer?

He’s not got the knowledge or tactical awareness at this present time he needs to go now learn his trade somewhere else with a smaller club and learn the basics

I was delighted when he got the job I thought he would be a breath of fresh air and he has had the backing of the fans and board to have a real go at it
But now once again when the business end of the season starts his team fade away

More experienced manger may get more out the players and keep them fighting for every game during a whole season - not a half season as its been this season and last

Listen I know here you coming from

But you need to take off the blue tints and see what’s in front of you - it ain’t working it’s as simple as that

And I’m not being bad about it -
And giving in etc the team gave in that’s not my fault lol

Gerrard does not have the experience we now need
To get this team playing
And why he doesn’t use the full squad when it’s the players he bought is beyond me

You wouldn’t accept it from another manger - take the name out of the picture - he’s a manger who’s not performing and won’t bring in silver ware

I’m not going to come back on here and say told you so when e lose against braga and lose out in the cup

But for me this team will now go on to fail
Again not being bad it’s just the bloody truth of the matter

They have lost all passion and fight nothing you, me or anyone else on here is going to change that fact!



13 Feb 2020 10:27:32
So which manager do you think would improve our situation thestigno1?



13 Feb 2020 10:53:04
Thestigno — it’s only about six weeks since this team took Celtic to the cleaners though we lost the cup final we played them off the park, my point is you don’t become a bad team overnight but we lost a few players to injuries, suspension and lack of form but we don’t have the squad to replace these players or rest them they have to play through it, we then drop points and the pressure mounts on those players who are not playing well, look at that bench last night it didn’t inspire me we had to loan out players in Jan who maybe we could have kept but again it’s money I’ll say it again we don’t have it as for the manager he has taken us from getting thumped off Celtic from double figure points behind Aberdeen to being thirty odd in front of them but to challenge at the top will take more money sacking our manager would cost us that money we need we have changed managers to often in the last few years and all it has done is cost us money we need to calm down get the team back to where we were six weeks ago we were playing great football scoring for fun chopping and changing does more harm than good.



13 Feb 2020 11:19:41
I said in first post I have no idea who would take it just now
But would be interesting too see who would put there Name in the hat

We need a change - I’m sorry but don’t want to watch next season go by and not putting up a sustained challenge

I would be happy if we’re sustaining the challenge
But we’re not and we can’t change 15 players but we can change management
And find someone who can now take us a step further
The team giving up after winter break not good enough

And you can see he doesn’t know what to do about it
Subs at the 80 minute mark
Come on pleaseeee.



13 Feb 2020 12:53:41
Thestigno1 - I agree with what you have said but will add that I think something has gone wrong with the management and squad, possibly the rumours of a rift or SG losing the dressing room may be true as the players are not playing for him, in such circumstances the manager goes. Who comes in I don't know either but in my opinion someone who knows scottish football.
SG has been the architect of his own downfall with 1 tactic to be honest.
For those of you willing to stand by SG then fair play to you, enjoy 2nd place until he goes.



13 Feb 2020 13:47:12
Folk asking about what manager would improve it - Gio Van Bronckhorst. Knows what is needed at Ibrox, guided Feyenoord to their first title in years ahead of Ajax and PSV.



13 Feb 2020 13:55:16
Jctheger

Think you might be right - something definitely not looking right -
I don’t understand is what could have went wrong with beating Celtic and having a holiday to coming back a different team altogether
Anyone know what the rift was supposed to be if it is indeed true certainly the players not playing for him anymore

Thewagman

Could be a shout like you say been there and succeeded
Where Gerrard has no previous experience in management

I don’t know the answer but hopefully the board do and something gets sorted and changed quickly if it is a dressing room right someone needs to get it sorted out right away anyway possibly to get the team back to winning before we end up 3rd.



13 Feb 2020 16:32:40
Spot on twacoos! 👍.



13 Feb 2020 23:05:58
Thestigno1

Things I have heard and read are big Katic had a few words to say about being dropped, Morelos and a few others were supposed to have been annoyed at SG calling them out over poor performances in interviews, and there was supposed to have been something after Docherty and Alfie had a fallen out, maybe why Docherty has no future under SG.
Not sure how much truth is in them but you never know as things certainly not going well.



13 Feb 2020 08:07:10
Greg Docherty MOTM last night and everyone raving about him you would think we were 18 points clear to be able to loan him out. I am now struggling to trust Gerrards judgement. That's a player that's never been given a sniff. I also think Stewart has a lot to give and never gets more than 8 mins.



13 Feb 2020 09:41:40
Docherty, mccrorie, Stewart, could all have played at various times this season. Of course they're good enough for our league.



13 Feb 2020 10:28:22
So Docherty is loaned out to a rival club, McCrorie loaned out too. Stewart should be in the first team. So your point is?



13 Feb 2020 13:47:52
Jamie Murphy too. 3 goals in 5 games on loan and we’re complaining about having no goals outside of Morelos.



13 Feb 2020 07:58:14
SG needs to show a few performances from December and ask why we can't deliver that level of consistency pace and hunger. Still can't believe the monumental collapse. I am sure Gerrard can't believe it either. It's not about blame it's about getting this team back on track and doing everything we can to win every game. Needs to start relying on the wider squad there is definitely issues in that squad going on. We look disjointed, slow and clueless at times.



13 Feb 2020 07:53:19
It is hard to believe that this is the same Rangers team that only lost twice domestically between August and December but have now dropped 8 points in the league since after the winter break. Teams and players don't suddenly become bad players so it must be a mental thing. The same thing happened last year. The team has done brilliantly in the Europa League but their performances against Hearts, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock have been totally unacceptable. I think the league has gone now unless Celtic hit a form slump and that doesn't look likely at the moment. The annoying thing is that Celtic are nothing special and we had a great chance this season to win the league. The Scottish Cup is our only hope and even then a trip to Tynecastle is looking like a precarious thing.



13 Feb 2020 09:42:49
It's pretty crazy doiger. Agree with your above post.



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13 Feb 2020 07:27:02
While i do appreciate and respect all that stevie g has done for us. maybe was a mistake handing him another 4 hear contract. He has pulled us out the gutter. he has brought in a few players because of who he is. i have backed him to the hill on here. check my previous posts but maybe.

just maybe need a manager with more experience when it comes to changing tactics when things aren't going well. anyone last night could tell after 15 mins of that second half we were struggling and needed to change things . but nothing. stayed the same.

Then to only start making subs past 80 mins. should've changed the whole set up at around 60 mins and took the game to them. obviously the players are mostly to blame but calling them bottlers, c'mon stevie, surely you must take some blame here.

teams are into us now and know exactly what to do before the game even starts. still think if we win all our games we can win this but the way celtic are playing atm dreading the next old firm game. end of the day even 1 more draw its game over. win every single game in the league then we will be there, but that's a huge if.



13 Feb 2020 08:03:07
Iggle, I said exactly the same thing on here after the match last night, to see people having a go at Kamberi really angered me, , the lad has had 15 minutes since he arrived, even Messi would struggle coming on so late. We need to go 2 up, a blind man can see that, but again there are people on here who just say, 'we don't play that way', well I'll tell you what, if we don't change the system, we will continue to win SFA. As with Iggle, I have defended SG in most of my posts, but my patience has gone, I dimensional sums it up, every Manager in the SPL knows how to combat us now, I hope I'm wrong, but I fear for us against Bragga.



13 Feb 2020 08:37:05
Can anyone actually see us winning all our remaining games? We said that after Hearts, and look what's happened. We were being forced back by Killie in the second half - I'll say that again, Killie.



14 Feb 2020 08:51:23
pulled you out the gutter, come on he has spent 20 million over 2 seasons not too mention the big wages handed to morelos, mcgregor, davis and now defoe. he has done the bare minimum with the resources given. a decent manager with a good track record would not let your team crumble. the points difference will get worse and if you go out of europe and the scottish cup at the end of this month then what?



13 Feb 2020 06:27:44
I bust a gut to get to the game last night and then had to watch another mundane performance from a team who have absolutely no confidence at the moment.
We looked like a team with no heart or fight.

To be clear, we lost the game ourselves not the officials, but we are letting horrendous officiating get to us. The ref was brutal again and I watched the WORST linesman I have ever seen last night. These inept performances do have a bearing on the game but we should still be brushing teams aside.

Think it's time to look at your tactics and selections Mr Gerrard as we are so transparent. I used to think teams only upped their game against us but last night proved they don't it just looks that way because teams know exactly how we are going to play.
And still we follow on.



13 Feb 2020 08:07:17
Floyder, I agree to a certain extent, but, Beaton and his linesmen gave us nothing last night, I felt Morelos's goal should have stood, and Finlay should have been booked for simulation, as Alfie was. Alfie now, he needs someone up beside him or he will end up being just another player, just my opinion, but I saw the frustration in his face last night, SG's stubbornness will cause a dressing room bust up.



13 Feb 2020 05:50:45
Greg docherty and Jamie Murphy should never have been given out on loan. Doch once again the hibs man of the match and has started superb at hibs, just like he was with shrewsbury town, last season! Also murphy is the goalscoring wide player we're crying out for. He's also started superbly down at burton albion. Hibs boss jack ross says he can't believe they got greg docherty on loan and praises him to the hilt!



13 Feb 2020 13:50:03
Yet you’re still backing the utter clown who let them leave and thinks Ojo is a player? 🤔.



14 Feb 2020 08:18:09
Who would you drop to give Docherty a run in the team?
Because he isn't an impact player from the bench!
And Murphy needs game time - League 1 is his level just now to build up his fitness and confidence.



14 Feb 2020 08:52:49
i watched some of the hibs game, docherty looked excellent. he looks happy and his range of passing was very good, not to mention he is phsyically strong and has a good burst of pace. do hibs have an option to buy?



13 Feb 2020 07:23:05
I'm going to be brutally honest here it's just my opinion some may agree or disagree which is fine the first thing is how are we going to stop 10 inar if the manager is publicly saying the players are mentally weak?

This one is a major red flag and secondly the manager looks tactically inept to realising when a game is going against him the man is clueless with timing when to bring on a sub for maximum impact and thirdly his tactics have been worked out it's so obvious will he change?

I'm not willing to throw Gerrard under the bus just yet but this is a business it's all about results if we fail to get any silverware this season and we get no trophies after two seasons then I'm done with Gerrard we cannot go into a 3rd year with nothing the Scottish cup is a must now.

his fame will not save him after that but moving onto the players the midfield looks like it's gone it disappears during a match you can't win most games with no midfield the defence looks rattled when teams attack us and when we attack it's not in numbers it looks laboured which really annoys me don't get me started on Kent.

i don't know what he meant to be doing you can't come inside to beat 5 men and hope it comes off good it's tragic he is being wasted that way the only pass marks i give is to Morelos he was the best of a bad bunch anyway Mr Gerrard the clock is ticking on you now.



13 Feb 2020 07:22:04
Ed, I've read the posts about Gerrard getting the boot, I really don't know, so could you run a poll - would you like Gerrard to be sacked, yes or no? I'm just curious what everyone is thinking.



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13 Feb 2020 00:18:01
i reckon we have a self induced unhappy dressing room.
why? look at players who get one or two games play well but make the odd mistake and they get dropped again while regular Gerrard favourites make easy things look hard but don't get dropped.
where are
HASTIE
POLSTER

Why are
KATIC
EDMUNDSON
STEWART
KAMERA

in and out the team like yoyos

why do
GOLDSON
KENT
MORELOS

never get dropped no mater how bad they play

Why did Patterson play yesterday v Athletico Madrid instead of being on the bench tonight instead of Flanagan

WHY don't WE RATE
DOCHERTY
MURPHY

When they play out their skins out on loan

All these choices and decisions come from management, I think that's where we have gone wrong, the players look up to him, but cannot see he doesn't have all he answers and can't perform miracles.

We are what we are, not cash rich, but still able to attract players, Hagi for example, but I reckon for the same reasons he will disappear in the fog that currently hangs over Ibrox and the Hummel

And lastly why do very few young players ever make the breakthrough here?

I know this is a rant, but in my opinion, fully justified in wanting answers.



13 Feb 2020 08:12:31
Good post Ritchie.



13 Feb 2020 08:39:59
Don’t usually agree with you R1 but you have made good points.



14 Feb 2020 14:07:12
Back to blaming the easy targets?
Since the winter break the full team has under performed.
Are you seriously going to drop a striker on 29 goals for the season for a 3rd choice striker who's lucky if he's scored 30 goals over the last 5 seasons? And considering Morelos has only played half the games and has scored 1 in 2 full appearances how's he getting the blame?
And when the teams playing badly are we going to risk 2 young CH's at the same time who are still prone to erratic mistakes themselves?
Hastie and Polster are squad players or in Hastie's case, one for the future.
And who's position is Docherty going to take in the team? The way the team is set up, he's only similar in style to Jack. Would you drop Jack for him? I don't see Docherty as a match winner from the bench.
And Murphy needs 90min game time to regain fitness and confidence.
And you said it - you've ranted.
So why not constructively criticize the team instead of picking on 3 players when the first 11, subs and management haven't been good enough since the winter break.
But that's the same players / management who got us in a title fight in the first place and in Europe after Xmas.



12 Feb 2020 23:32:30
Well guys that's the league done, my thoughts are as follows, only my opinion but I'd argue any of these to the hilt with any fellow ger

Tactics and system the same week in, week out, perhaps the element of surprise occasionally, for instance 2 up front or go 3 at the back might make us less predictable as that's what we have become, the lack of quick substitutions every game when it's plain as the nose on your face that changes are needed sooner (ie tonight aribo and hagi not at the races) yet 80 minutes before a change is made, at that stage it's highly unlikely a sub will come on and positively influence the result

As for individuals, aribo is a waste of space, an imposter who plays 5 yard passes, runs away into space and contributes absolutely nothing, only players worse than him are ojo and Barker. hagi has a lot to prove,45 minutes against hibs is all he has done so far, Kent miles off it, I'm a big fan but there's no denying he is struggling, Alfie looks unfit and disinterested, Davis and Kamara off the boil, katic looks uneasy, edmundson average at best, even McGregor recently has been poor, hibs goal his fault, poor positioning at Hamilton goal and tonight at brophys goal he doesn't even put his arms out to attempt to save it, what does Greg Stewart need to do to even be given a chance to show what he can do? and we give Jamie Murphy away for 6 months who is tearing up league one, is he a world-beater? no, but he's better than ojo, Barker and Jones combined

The league's gone, the pressure now to win the Scottish cup is immense as if this were any other manager we would be calling for their head after 2 trophyless seasons

Majorly disappointing as I think we all felt after the Celtic game we had a huge chance this year.



12 Feb 2020 23:24:09
I am absolutely gutted with our performances since the winter break. The signs were there from the Stranraer and St Mirren games where we were simply awful. We did not heed the warning signs and the players have let the club and the fans down badly. I think Dubai should not be on agenda next winter break as it clearly isn't working.

We don't start games well enough and don't move the ball forward quick enough. Teams sit deep and we cannot break them down as our final ball is awful. Also VAR NEEDS to be in place by next season as the refereeing standard in this country is at rock bottom. I think we are being given a raw deal by refs and the SFA. VAR will take this away. Rangers need to demand this in place by start of next season.



13 Feb 2020 21:50:12
Stevie71, we definetly need var, as lawell has everything coverts at this moment in time, var would give us a chance, which we don't have now, due to corrupt officials.



12 Feb 2020 23:21:39
kent, aribo and hagi don't work together. don't like picking players out but ryan kent has done nothing for us this season.



12 Feb 2020 23:19:44
If your of the opinion the referees are just crap and not rigging it then your blind to the fact how often they are just crap against us, its blatant and undeniable.



13 Feb 2020 21:52:36
Gazallybertzdrup, bang on mate, bang on, let's do what celtic done and make a noise about the officialls running our game, celtic have not lost a league title since they caused the refs to strike, fact.



12 Feb 2020 23:06:48
Why are we doing so well in Europe and not Scotland? Easy, the European referees back footballers, protect footballers, Scottish referees back hammer throwers . Simple . If any one of that Kilmarnock squad could provide anything to us in a real football match about football we would’ve signed them already, but we can’t beat them in Scotland .

The referee was paid for once again with a perfectly good Morelos goal chopped off which was as mild as mild could be in the spl of refereeing I won’t hear any different as it’s BS by Celtic provocateurs in the website . Aribo talented but weak hearted, runs through the team, but what do we do?

Get tough and get more bookings etc for being rangers? Morelos is a ‘retaliator’ and we all see what that brings, so we can’t do anything basically except keep looking within while the real problem is without, sums it up for me.



13 Feb 2020 21:54:34
Gaz as i said in above post let's get the official people running football to have a look at the celtic supporting refs.



 
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