Rangers Banter Archive December 13 2014

13 Dec 2014 22:46:41
A would like to see what everybody thinks about bring barry Ferguson in as manager? One of the best midfielders that graced scottish football, Rangers through and through, played under some top class managers, played down in England, young manager, wouldn't cost that much, just a wee thought there?? I think personally, it would be a great appointment! What do you's think lads & lady's. . CM

Love barry, but not really impressed with clyde this season

Hi colin
I think the Rangers job is to soon for Barry Ferguson, he hasn't proved himself nowhere yet, failed at Blackpool and not doing himself much favours at Clyde, I think maybe one day he will end back up at Ibrox but he will need to maybe come in as a number 2 for a few years under an experienced manager, but theirs no doubt that he'd certainly put his point across to players about the importance of playing for Rangers, and he's certainly the type of guy who wouldn't stand for nothing less than 100%

Royal blue I could not have put your post any better if I tried pal, totally agree with you post re Barry ferguson.

Barry ferguson needs more experience as amanager and so far at blackpool orclyde he has not set heather on fire if it came to straight choice between terrry butcher or barry ferguson I would take barry really don't rate butcher

14 Dec 2014 09:37:56
No thanks. Overstayed his welcome at Ibrox too selfish.
Even after the Scotland incident refused to accept he was in the wrong.
Hopefully never a Rangers manager

Has this debacle with the current person in charge taught us nothing? we need to move away from this fixation with ex players, we need a proven manager that can get the dross McCoist bought in (including several ex players Boyd, Miller, Smith, Foster) playing some kind of football, and longer term sign some decent players to take the team into the SPL and then Europe.

Barry Ferguson!??lol you seen Clyde f. c? He's never a manager get your blue specs off pal

Hold on till I wring my y fronts out because I think I've just pi$%#d them

13 Dec 2014 16:54:58
if anyone that macoist was an all right guy what manger would make that announce ment before a game and then pick a team with players out of position make substituitios that he made leaving aird on plying foster at left back leaving s smith on the bench and playing that person moshni and allowing queens to outplay and dictate play it shows u as a manager clueless or I should say greedy and clueless the tree muskiteers moto all for one and one for all but in macoists case all for ally and ally for ally he has went from legend to looter in three easy steps and at the same time been in more camps than geronimo

He actually handed his resignation in on Thursday and it was leaked by the board (no prizes for guessing who that was) it's conveniently taking the emphasis away from themselves but not for long because there will be no hiding place for these vagabonds come a week on Monday.

BT61, Why should his audacity not be leaked. He is useless at his job and is trying to manipulate the situation to his own financial benefit. He might as well make the most of it as he will never get another job in football. So for all you anti-board mob answer just two questions------ What have the Easdales got for their input, and what has he given for his rewards?
He has nothing to offer and this only re-enforces my commitment to not watch a game while he controls the team. It gives me absolutely no pleasure in watching his status, with our support, dwindling by every action.
He should be put on gardening leave until such time as his position is resolved. He should not be allowed into Ibrox or Auchenhowie except to get his personal belongings. Pay him each month his basic salary and remove all perks. [ car/expenses/bonus etc. ] We should employ a director of football [ ideally Souness] and a head coach to run the team and the whole pro Ally mob should know that the additional costs are down to him. His claims to be a 'Ranger's man' are in tatters and if we are to do a Third Lanark, then he will be high up in the list of main contributors.
Time now to shut up and let developments take there course.
What will be, will be.

Billy b is right dinsdale and dug although wealthhy but not super rich which is needed to run a club like rangers when it is not being run as a buiisness they put money in and as they say they have blown 3 million we have been f. . by whyte green and macoist he has supported every regime conned bears into buying season n books to protect his income showing no decency trying to say he cut his wages by half and when xmas party and staff presents were axed he could not organise party and presents funded by donations from coach staff and players as arsenal players and management did for the arsenal foundation reprobates

The fact that all the name calling bout mccoist goes to greed who he's backed how much money he earns sums the current state of club and support IMO. The biggest problem as iv said 100times on here is not ally mccoist it is one of many problems on the playing side but as stability of a club if it can't be seen what's happened from day one since Whyte came in I despair. The club has been ran as unprofessionally off the park even more so than it has on the park. I'm not mccoists biggest fan but it's getting mental now with this the way the club is being run is despicable and the biggest problem as we can do nothing about it. A manager that comes in will only be short term solution as we as a club have no long term plan it's minute to minute with them. We have money till the end of January then will it be the end of the season mccoist or new manager that's not good circumstances as how can u plan. Ppl will say other teams work like that but successful teams don't. If it's fixed off the park it will get better on the park. We could be 15points clear just now and would still only have funds till January.

Gc1981, You make some good points, but at the end of the day amcc will never be a good, or even, a decent coach/manager. He has proved by player choice, team selection, tactics and adaptability during a game that he is useless. Forget everything else and accept he is not fit for purpose.
Yes, if we are to progress as a club we must have a sound financial basis to work on and in my humble opinion, given the hand we have got, we should go with Ashley. Yes, he is not everyone's cup of tea, but nobody can doubt his business acumen.
If ever in our history we needed unity, it is now.

@4. Your right mate about the way the club is being run, but Mccoist in my opinion has a lot to answer for too, the guy couldn't even manage Rangers on a PlayStation game never mind in real life, he can't spot a good player, his tactics are non existent, he hasn't a clue how to change a game or get the best out of a player etc etc etc. I like many other fans just love to watch a good football team on the park, and would gladly pay to do so, but why should guy's have to or want to pay to watch the Barry white that is being served up by HIS team, if the product on the park was better then the crowd's would be a lot better, and it annoys me so much that he can't see that (or maybe he can). Cooper, Baxter, Greig, Laudrup, Gasgoine, and many more all legends, Mccoist legend my arse.

We speak about the management and ownership of the club as if we have a choice in who takes it forward. All posts on the forum including mine are borne of frustration and absolute desperation to see Rangers Football Club repaired.

As I have said on this forum before we have much bigger problems than Ally McCoists management as the survival of the club is clearly in the balance. There are two possibilities for survival - administration or someone or organization to completely buy out the shareholding and the onerous contracts at the club and start again. I doubt the club would be able to resurrect another liquidation.

Given the desperate state we are in on and off the field and no matter how sick to the core everyone feels after the last few years, Rangers is first and foremost about loyalty and I for one will stick with it regardless who is the manager and who the directors are as we have to try and do our bit to ensure the club is still alive - this is what supporters do.

As I said iv grave concerns with regards to mccoist as a manager choices have been bad by him and his staff. I would fully expect a new manager to improve us my point was merely that no matter who comes in things need to be fixed further up as well. I do not doubt business acument of mike Ashley at all. Silence is hard to bear as over the last few years that's been a bad thing. As iv said there is many problems that don't seem to go away and they are and will hold us back no matter who the manager is. IMO mccoist needed to go decisions baffling, the thought of playing without pace and creativity all these things sum up for me. I'm just not one for the personal attacks on the man that's all football related fire away but other stuff not for me

N8. I think it's the age of most of our players that cause us to play with no pace

13 Dec 2014 14:44:45
No matter if McCoist goes or stays, the underlying crisis regarding funding of the club is still the number one priority. I still can't believe Ashley would be allowed to exert undue influence given the restrictions apparently imposed upon him by the SFA. So where have the like of Kennedy, McColl, Murray, King and others disappeared to just when our club is on the brink? Surely if King has the money he claims earlier this year he had (up to £50 million) then Ashley couldn't prevent him coming in with a big bid? The sooner the crooked Easdales get out the better and who is running the club? If a new owner and a new manager could be installed before the year end then recall the good youngsters out on loan and the impetus might yet carry us to the title. Even then, surely we could win the play-offs?

13 Dec 2014 15:09:16
DOIGER :I know you're a glass half full type of guy,I like your optimism.So its just a new owner and manager for the new year?That's it mate,stay positive.

Clutching at very short straws mentioning king, he's a person, out af curiosity what happened to the season ticket money that went into a king account?

{Ed039's Note - He didnt collect any money for season tickets, just commitment from fans that they were behind the idea, he couldnt collect money until something was in force and it never came to)

Doiger I don't think anybody can offer assistance until it's asked for, in regards the people you mentioned

Doiger I read on rumour page admin is a cert maybe that's why none of our players tried a leg last night

Thanks ed

13 Dec 2014 11:33:49
I'd like to see us bringing Derek McInnes in as manager.

Why? The reason being I believe an outsider, a non Rangers man with no fear of the Rangers support will bring a new angle on what kind of player we require. McCoist shied away from youth based on a premise that the supporters' demands could damage confidence. He's right in saying that a youth team would not have won the 3rd Division but then again, no one demanded that. I reckon we'd still have Charlie Telfer if he'd been played when we were 30 odd points clear last season. No, let's play Black and Law every match and go unbeaten.

The chickens are coming home to roost and we're left with few options to drop players. I can see a scenario where things are going to get worse and we'll be in the same league next season with Hearts and Hibs going up.

I always thought he was a Rangers fan. Certainly around the time he joined, it was said he was a lifelong fan. Had one good season with the sheep.

McInnes is A huge Rangers fan always has been!

Whilst respecting your choice I would go for the tried and tested in the bigger arena --- the man with everything we need is surely Steve Clarke

I agree Steve Clarke with his contacts etc would be a good appointment. Why always butcher McCall etc. Butcher too many failings McCall not sure but prefer Steve c. What about MacLeish?

And to think butcher nearly took the Motherwell job

13 Dec 2014 14:50:18
Need to wake up people new manager same rubbish sqaud. This group of players are not good enough. A new manager won't be giving money to spend. Any players sold they money will pay back Ashley. Ally wants out because Ashleys men have told him Wallace, Templetong & Mcloed will be sold in January if prospective bidders follow through to be replaces by Newcastle kids. No appeal to managers with a credible CV wanting the job.

{Ed039's Note - I am sorry but this squad of players is more than capable at this level, guys like Stevie Smith playing left midfield when Templeton is on the bench is just a joke, seems like the guy has done something, a new manager would be a fresh start for players like Temps who should be in the starting 11 but are not. We are playing Fraser Aird when a better player IMO in Barrie McKay is out on loan ...... the squad is good enough, they are not being managed or set-up well enough, I just can not agree with your statement)

Ed u 100% right aird does not have it barrie mackay at raith that dolt foster at leftback s smith on the bench moshni worse than a man short kris boyd would need a weeks famine to box at heavy weight lee maculloch is sloer than me and I am 62 and 19st I still think with the right manager we can still win league hearts have light weight squad and short on numbers so far very little injuries and suspensions terry butcher is not the man for the job I would like to see s mcall paired with ian murray at one time I would have say craig livein but after scotland not sure however the board will no doubt take cheapest option

Would love mcleish, but his genk team are second in the league after 19 games, 3 points behind 1st, big eck took over and they were just outside the relegation slots, doing abso brillant there, a wee 3-0 win today, keep it up big man

Bigwull definitely not craig Levine, I know he is meant to be keeping neilson in the right at hearts, but like us once the players cross the white line it's down to them, I would not want Levine near rangers, for bye that we play with strikers lol Levine Scotland nobody at all up front, oh wait we are playing like that our selfs right now. lol

13 Dec 2014 08:09:46
I've just woken up from what must have been my worst nights sleep in years, my Mrs says I was tossing and turning all night and that I kept mumbling on and swearing about mccoist. I cannot get my head around what has happened in the last 24hrs I've went from joy (when I heard he resigned) to despair when he wouldn't confirm it, and to pure anger when I watched the game last night. Ally Mccoist is treating Rangers fans like mugs just like everyone else has been doing for the last few years and I now despise the man, he is no legend.

13 Dec 2014 09:06:55
Royalb:Had a long night myself mate.So he's going to hang about like a third baw all season it seems?He will as well.I never ever thought I'd hate the sight of that man.Legend? B*llend.

13 Dec 2014 09:27:43
Can I try and clarify what McCoist has done apart from play the sympathy card! He has put the club in a position where they now need to pay him his £400k either in a lump sum or over a 12 month period. When he days "I am 100% committed to Rangers" read that as I am 100% committed to getting my £400k. Rangers can't reject his resignation. He is an employee and has a years notice period so the clock is now ticking ( if he has put his resignation in writing). If he was doing this to put the focus back on the way the club is being run, or in protest about the way low paid staff have lost their jobs he would have been more effective by coming out and stating this and walking away from his pay off. It would save the club £400k and get the point accross. Instead, he is securing his pay off. Is he trying to get out before admin 2 which would prevent him from getting any money, or has he had enough but just wants his money? I don't blame him for wanting his cash, everyone else has taken their pay off so why not McCoist? However that makes him no different to the Greens etc. This was a guy who seemed amazed he was on £800k a year and had not read his contract? I don't believe that in the slightest. This story is about to get ugly. It will however flush out Ashley one way or another. The board can't pay him off unless Ashley throws more cash at it, and if he does you can be sure Ashley is serious about Rangers and his involvement. If Ashley does nothing, then McCoist can only be paid off if the share issue happens in January. However are new shareholders happy to come in now knowing that £1mill of their investment is going to be used to replace the management staff? Maybe yes maybe no but it won't help. So resigning now and invoking his 12 months notice is strange and there is more to this than McCoist is letting on. Don't be fooled by the "Doing this for the club" tosh. Rangers fans have been conned enough but many will stand there and be conned again very very soon.

13 Dec 2014 09:41:24
I would hold on with the name calling if I were u, legal reasons are why ally could not confirm anything last night and with the brothers the only members of the board at the game,. just wait I promise when he goes it will be explosive with certain people running for cover.
r. f

13 Dec 2014 10:43:11
I want mention the actual game as well.
When I heard/read he never boarded team bus I assumed McDowall would be picking the team, and I was looking forward to seeing his set up etc.I was late getting in and I got a call telling me bawheid was standing on the touchline(arms folded).Did he follow the bus in his motor?I better watch what I'm saying,his agent/lawyer/ spokesman/best pal just warned me about name calling.I don't want a summons coming through the door.

13 Dec 2014 11:16:01
r.f. Unless McCoist was sacked he has every opportunity to walk away if he feels things are so bad that it offends him as a supporter. My point is no matter what has happened McCoist is taking his £400k regardless. If Butcher is coming in or another manager he is entitled to his cash. If it's something else then let's see what it is?

13 Dec 2014 11:23:58
GKK I think r.f. Is referring to my post. No matter what this explosive revaluation is going to be, McCoist still had the option to walk rather than to take his 400k just before a new share issue is offered? Let's be clear, it's probably only a matter of time before Ibrox is sold and leased back. That us how much shit Rangers are in. No matter what he has the option just to walk. No manager can run a team after announcing he has handed in his notice, it just does not work. So something is going in and maybe r.f has the inside track so let's see what happens between now and the AGM?

R. f I agree with you it was legal reasons which prevented Ally confirming or commenting further last night. I believe Ally is playing a game with the board and it will be interesting to see who plays their hand first and who comes out on top here.
When Ally does finally go a lot of dirty washing is going to be uncovered. I was surprised the Easedales didn't get a hard time at the game last night, some pressure needs to be put on them by the fans at the way the club is being run. All through the game they sat smiling/laughing with each other, I don't think many fans were laughing last night with what we had to watch?

13 Dec 2014 12:13:55
Post was not aimed at anyone gkk, has anyone took any time to consider why with the rest of the board at a meeting with ashley in London the brothers were still in Scotland, crichton left the other day, Allys resignation, big changes about to happen.
r. f

13 Dec 2014 12:57:10
I am merely a football man,I don't involve myself in the politics of it all or pretend to have knowledge of it.
My damnation of McCoist is based purely on the mans inability to grasp the most basic of fundamentals, like passing a ball.
No matter what is going on in the background,he is more than handsomely compensated for it.I will be delighted,however,if changes at boardroom level are forthcoming as a result of the latest fiasco.

The board could use this to their advantage by saying that they feel a change in management would be best for Rangers (reminding him of his previous statements), but the compensation demands would put a massive strain on the club (the truth), this would put the ball in his court, he would need to decide whether to go for free and maintain some dignity or stay and be hated for holding the club to ransom, which is pretty much where we are now, but this way its his decision not the boards.

Wullie would you not be sitting laughing if you had a face like yown sitting facing you lol

13 Dec 2014 07:22:18
It must have been hard to put a team on the park with everything happening behind the scenes as it was. But, what Rangers have been doing, and been getting away with it the past two seasons is relying on fitness to grind teams down and win games in the second half, just look at results and when goals were scored. Now there being found out, coming up against players who train, just like them, on a full time basis. No Prima Donnas in the team, just young players who want to run, fight, play and show passion for there, club, manager and fans. I wonder what there weekly wages are?? How are Rangers haemorrhaging money. Cause they've got the biggest wage bill in Scottish Football, those eleven players last night should take a long hard look at themselves, been hiding behind Ally for too long, if that was them fighting for the Managers future I'd be seriously worried!!!!

13 Dec 2014 01:00:18
Ally did not resign, he 'offered' to resign. Just like he indicated he took a 50% pay cut when he actually to a defferment so the money is still owed to him. You can guarantee his resignation will only happen if they pay up his deal in ful.

If any manager wants to resign he Has to offer it then its up to the board

I wonder how it reached the press from the board and sanctity of the club? His agent is good