Rangers Banter Archive August 13 2011

13 Aug 2011 22:57:08
watched game today and i have 2 say davis was appalling his passing was dreadful i lost count tackles he pulled out of, if edu put in a performance like that he would be slaughtered and i have the feeling we have no leader on the park davis is never a captain 2 quiet same as weir i think it is time 2 make shagger captain i don't normally like keepers as captain but i think alot of our players need shouted at 2 wake them up, or SUPER ALLY could do what the little general done when he made fergie captain and make ness captain i think he has leader qualities about him if he stays fit
WATP

Are you an idiot he was best player by a mile, you must go the same specsavers as the ref we had today lol

Ferguson was made captain at 22, but by that time he had played over 100 games, had 10+ Scotland caps and had established himself as one of the best young midfielders in Britain. Ness has done none of that. Ferguson had bossed the midfield against Lothar Matthaus (Bayern Munich), Paul Scholes & Paul Ince (England), Burley & Lambert (Celtic) among others. He's a promising youngster, but Jamie Ness will never be Barry Ferguson, so your as well gettin that out of your head right now.

Mcgregor or ness who is it then ... ? {Ed047's Note - Definitely McGregor or Ness. Or maybe.....

2 the 1 who says am i an idiot no i am a f***in crazy but what i am not is blinded unlike so many of our fans davis was s**te today, 2 say he was our best player only confirms this u r 1 of the blinded i would advice u 2 watch the game again as i said he gave the ball away countless times and he is a s**tebag but because he comes from northern ireland he gets less abuse than all our other players last season he was f***in terrible he played a few good games towards the end of season no use better doing it all season, and 2 the barry stats man I know what barry has done and he done it well but barry never had the same injuries that have plagued ness for the last few seasons so he has not had the chance 2 achieve what barry has done so I will not argue with u over it but I think ness can be as good if not better than fergie and be a RANGERS captain if u remember barry wasn't sure about being made captain so young but in my opinion it helped him become the player he was and thats what we need a moaning faced c**t in there to get some of our players ie davis 2 get there fingers oot their arse

2 the barry stats Man Utd forgot 2 put in dino baggio aswell that night was probably barry's best game for us against parma i remember barry doing the cruyff turn well before wee aiden mcgreety and the look on baggio's face was priceless
WATP

Who ever said that ness isnt gonna be better or the same as ferguson that is a strange comment to make the boy is only young and a think out of all the youngsters in the sqwad he is the best out of them he is gonna be superb in the next year or 2

13 Aug 2011 22:40:17
How dare people come on here and say 'in ally we don't trust'. These people are just fools. This guy has given the best part of his life to rangers. He loves the gers. Anybody who questions his motives is no real rangers supporter Also on a side note greg wylde isn't worth 400 quid a week never mind 4000. Tbh he's decent no superstar. I say let him go to bolton and end up playing in the championship and eventually ending his career with his or some kak mob. Lastly the ortiz is guff on the left and I think he would do a job in the middle, also edu sending off is a blessing

C-bear85

Aye ur good u think wylde is rubbish good young player shd be on the same as ness an hutton and ortiz who is a winger in cm aye guid yin

in C-bear85 we dont trust

The guy who is sticking up for super ally well said mate he has got our best interest you have just proved your a real supporter mate

13 Aug 2011 22:15:37
Just hope all fellow bears get as pleasure as I do watching young Jamie ness Playing in the ger,s midfield how good this boy can be who knows but to me pure class best young ger to come through the youth set up since Hutton.

The boy just oozes class. Makes it look like he isn't even trying.

Best passer in the SPL. FACT.

Jamie ness has been injured half a season for the last 3 seasons walter smith picked him out as the best talent of ibrox youth team 2 year ago .. i think hes the best player on the park for rangers every time he plays the guy is quality . rangers should tie him up on a 5/6 year deal like what they done with davis and mcgregor. so the big guns down south dont get him on the cheap when and if he moves on .

Briilant mate he should be signed on new 5 or 6 year contract

13 Aug 2011 21:37:32
calm down everybody the tims are rank,3 more signings and its 4 in a row.

Agreed

13 Aug 2011 21:22:21
BBC interviewing Gordon Smith

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/14516283.stm

13 Aug 2011 20:21:06
IMO bartley didnt fancy it 2day was gettin dragged all over the place bet his injury aint bad just didnt fancy it in my eyes, ur thts ed? {Ed001's Note - I can't see that from what I know of Bartley, he might have not been at his best, but he has always been seen as a trier in the youth teams.}

He will come back from injury and become good

13 Aug 2011 20:14:53
ive snapped outt of the brain washing that whyte and mccoist done to us
my fellow bears i hope im wrong and we do good in europa leauge, but i am concerned about little been done to strengthen the squad to rangers standards

13 Aug 2011 20:08:37
ed why is it when rangers do something sectarian it is all over the papers ...when celtic do it not a sound [like the large sunburst display today which is the youth wing of the I R A ]..... {Ed001's Note - that is a question for the media in Scotland, though personally I feel a lot of it is down to the fact that Rangers are suffering from the stigma of British national pride becoming associated with the likes of the BNP. Because you wave a Union Jack you are automatically seen as being a skin head racist with tattoos who spends their weekends beating up anyone whose skin isn't white enough. It makes Rangers an easier target than those waving an Irish flag who are seen as an oppressed minority due to the mistreatment of the country during the time of its occupation.}

I was waiting for the Scottish press to blame rangers fans for the riots in England last week

Controversial, lol......Miko {Ed001's Note - it is just an opinion mate, I can only say it the way it is seen by neutrals like meself. Being from a mixed Irish Catholic/Scottish Protestant background that is the way it looks to me. Clearly there is, or at least should be, an embarrassment about the way the Irish were treated during its occupation.}

Well said Ed.
In Ally We Trust.

I was gonna bring this up on wednesday night after the sellic vs Man Utd legends charity match, i was watching and thought it was quite entertaining, but was totally taken aback when i heard the "ooh ahh up the ra" chant being belted out. now is it just me who heard it, or did the media turn a blind eye to it. if it had been a rangers match and we sang "our banned songs", i do believe that this would of defo made the news and how our fans are the worst. ed any thoughts on this m8?

Bluenose1873 {Ed047's Note - It gets my blood boiling. Only Rangers fans are sectarian. The IRA chants don't count. In the past Hearts and Hibs have had their fair share and might still do, but it's only media worthy if you wear a blue white and red scarf. I don't condone the sectarian songs, I hate them and it is right that we are punished, but why are we the only ones ever punished?

Ed sounds like you are sticking up for celtic today...what about the women and children who were bombed by ira {Ed047's Note - Ed 001 gave his opinion as asked. I don't see it as sticking up for Celtic at all. As he states its a question for the Scottish media and therein lies the problem. It is the media who don't report the chants at parkhead but who crucify Rangers for sectarian chants (rightly so but if it's good enough for one it's good enough for everybody.

13 Aug 2011 19:46:54
4 attempts on target ..not good........need to play 100 times better then that next week or Europe is over.

13 Aug 2011 19:10:32
Any1 that tht we played well 2day catch a grip it was rubbish, how many chances did we create outside pens? Get the blinkers off

They were a lot of positives to take out of the game. You must have been watching a different game. You catch a grip and away back to your own page.
In Ally We Trust.

I agree to a certain extent. We we're good in our build up( though it took a lot of passing around the back four at times) but we rarely threatened in the final third. We need some more speed in the wings.

Totally agree mate not good enough

Good bits tell me them pal ??? 4 shots not good enough we dont trust ally or whyte

Cutting edge missing passing great but need to find more penetration jelly needed more help than he is getting wide player needed and then we might get some where agree or not

13 Aug 2011 18:11:42
thought today's performance was really good

Ness was really good , came close and got the ball and got his head up

Davis - great as ever , always looking to create.

Edu - surprisingly good in my eyes , good follow up goal but shame he got sent off

Perry - looked superb , can see him breaking through into the first team this year and can see another Wilson situation happenig

Goin - strong in the air and read the game brilliant , 2 great blocks in the last 10 minutes , well done

Jelavic - held the ball up brilliant allowing edu , Davis , nasisy to get up and support , good pen to

Naismith - always looking to create with jelavic , good pedormance but should've scoared

Wallace - brilliant bombing down the wing , good signing a think

All in all brilliant pedormance , Thursday should be easy if we play the same way

WATP

Have u got a white stick ? Brilliant performance
Not one shot on goal if we had not got two bad
desicions we would still be trying to score
WAKE UP

What match were u watching Rangers were average no more... Kidding urself if you think that was a good performance, Ortiz was pants as was Edu Davis had a shocker and ness ain't as good as some flow bears make out. Even Naismith was below par Ally needs to get the finger out and be more attack minded, we need a decent winger and soon or we can kiss the title goodbye.....

Sorry pal if u think that today was brilliant u have no clue below average from everyone except doian Wallace was poor never worth 1.5 m as for Maribor we play like that were out of Europe

Your having a laugh, average at best against a very poor inverness team.
No creativity and crossing from wide positions is woefull, if we play like that on Thur we will be in trouble.

13 Aug 2011 16:47:24
Adam le fondre still banging in the goals hes defo worth trying to get

I think he will score goals anywhere, scores all types of goals

I talked about us signing him a month or so ago,very tidy player,they rejected 200k for him a week or so ago 300-400k maybe-worth every penny i think he`d get goals up here with a partner like jela

13 Aug 2011 16:23:19
Just back from down south and missed the game guy's, any news / update on the Bartley injury I heard about ?. How well did we play today ? Cheers bears, Rangers ' til I die

Goian and ness were by far the best players on the pitch goian brilliant in the air and really good on the tackle ness nice wee passes played it quite simple couple of chances really good wee player as far as i know bartley has got a groin problem
campbell

Comfortable victory and played some good football we lacked a bit of a cutting edge up front-bartleys injury assessed on sunday -groin injury

Cheers for that m8, glad to see Ness is getting a run out, big future at rangers imo, again cheers m8. Rangers 'til I die

Heard bartley has a mild groin strain mate.

Jelavic was different class, ball control, peeling off defenders, ICT put everyone behind the halfway line when not in possession, so the result was a very goof one, not many teams will leave there with 3 points.

13 Aug 2011 15:06:49
Dundee Utd to go top of the league tonight.

3-1 to the mob with 20 minutes to go so a doubt that mate.

4-1 now. Guess Houston has been at it again, not content wi giving us the Goodwullie runaround, he's instructed his players to present erse.

Founded as Dundee Hibernian and Scotlands 3rd Catholic team, fact only won twice against the number 1 catholic team since the premier league started

13 Aug 2011 15:02:51
Yasss anouther win looking much better on the ball should giv us a big boost for thursdays game dont no why everyone is moaning we hiv won the leauge without money before lets get behind the team a show smeltc why we we are champs

13 Aug 2011 14:22:05
I love Maurice Edu....hes our future.

Think he looked a lot better without having to cover for big mccullochs mistakes.

13 Aug 2011 14:19:54
Yasssss edu off, at least we don't need to watch him next week

No but we will still have to watch clubfoot

13 Aug 2011 14:06:16
walker say no penalty no sending off this a55hole is unbelievable

13 Aug 2011 13:13:33
What a diference with no McCulloch in midfield Players playing with freedom without jig pointing and telling them what to do. Like Goian, formation looks good, Ness is superb. A few additions and we've got a team

Totally agree mate, i have always said rangers play better football when mcculloch in not in the team. lets hope he remains out the team

bigstevie

McCulloch is always good against celtic though.

Mcculloch good against selic when was that i must have missed it. mcculloch is to slow and gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas.

bigstevie

I would agree lads the midfield looked a bit more dynamic minus big mcculloch.

13 Aug 2011 11:26:35
Quick question. Been watching soccer am and just heard one of the guys say a certain nunez teenager scored for leicester at the weekend. This wouldn't be the same boy we had on trial would it?

I doubt it since the boy we still have On loan is Guillermo Lopez.......



Bobby

How is Lopez getting on??

13 Aug 2011 10:59:05
I see that Rangers' bid for Bedoya has been turned down though a work permit has been obtained and McKay's offer has been agreed/accepted but he can't get a work permit in time for next week What is going on at Ibrox? Surely Whyte should ensure that initial bids are high enough to secure the players Ally wants? The Bedoya offer is £400,000 so it can't be that hard to now quickly agree a deal. I think this strategy of going in with low first bids is costing us as we are losing out on players. As for the remarks apparently made by Mr Miller and Mr Goodwillie, which were rather disparaging, better off without them, but again it seems that Whyte was slow out of the blocks and could have had both of them.

Why do we want to spend 500k on a player we can get for free in january, go intae a dark room and think about it
JG

13 Aug 2011 10:56:50
More banter than anything else but I love the last sentence in particular (taken from Sky Sports)

SPL champions Rangers have issued a 'hands off' warning on striker Kyle Lafferty.

Heres to 4IAR

13 Aug 2011 08:55:10
I think there has to be a degree of realism from some of the 'fans' on this page... We cant be spending money we don't have and simply must live within our means so please stop the constant moaning and have faith. We need to be more prudent and unearth gems that don't cost much which I think we may have done in Matt McKay and Alejandro Bedoya. The latter looks like he needs to bulk up a little for the rigours of SPL football but both look like they have bundles of energy who will get box to box and cause teams plenty of problems and I have a feeling they will provide the spark in midfield we currently lack.

Boits

13 Aug 2011 07:33:30
the reason celtic are so interested in us going into admin is beause thats the only way they would win the league.lets get behing ally and whyte and stop all the moaning were acting like that mob we are the people.

13 Aug 2011 02:51:07
I am so sick of everyone ripping on Craig Whyte, give the guy a break. Without him where would we be? McGregor wouldn't have signed a new deal and would probably be away by now, Davis would be gone, Papac would be sold and so would Whittaker (Mistake giving him a new deal). We wouldn't have Goian or Wallace or Ortiz or Bartley or Bedoya or McKay. Remember that Whyte has given McCoist a transfer budget but it is not Whyte or McCoist who decides on what to offer for a player; it is Gordon Smith. Personally I prefer Martin Bain because of the simple fact that he made sensible and acceptable offers instead of ridiculous offers under £200k.

Finally....A true blue who can see this situation we are in from a sensible point of veiw. If it wasn't for white the club may have been finished never mind the Tax bill. We might not get the big name signings we all want but im certain we will get a few quality lads in and with true rangers fans giving Ally and the team the support they deserve the we will win that title.

Gordon Smith has nothing to do with transfers.

Aye he is a whyte knight hutton an ness 3 grand a week wylde 900 quid aye guid yin mr whyte


K

Martin bains a crook mate although i agree with alot of what you say,alot of our fans have very very short memories-we`d of been taken apart by lloyds if it wasnt for whyte-no1 else wanted us,weve signed wallace-looks very good business,goian,ortiz,bartley has returned mckay has all but signed,bedoya will join in jan at the very latest-4 months ago id off ripped your hand off if i had been offered that-goodwillie was never coming-we never got to speak to miller,danns moved for money,verhoek doesnt want to move abroad,the polish defender looked gash anyway we could of done things abit smoother in the market but the moaning old b**tards on here want to remember where we were 6 months ago-looking at losing,shagger,davis maybe jela what would we be saying then??
im behind whyte and ally and the famous gers 110% rtid

13 Aug 2011 02:27:49
think we only need 3 or 4 more signings

1 - a striker that could go upfront with jelavic and letting Naisy move back into right mid

2 - a left sided winger , someone who can take on a man and beat him , hit the byline and whip in a cross ( sadly wylde don't have the cross on him )

3 - a good centre half , no nonsense , someone who will stick a boot in no matter what cuellar or juahz yes

also add the signings of Ortiz , Goian , Wallace , Bedoya ( januarry or now ) McKay ( work permit )

adding all these together would be 9 new faces , and sell beattie and edu

also would love to see ally give Hutton , ness and fleck a chance ;) think fleck still has something to show us ?

Watp

Spot on a think we have to see fleck getting played more centre of the park

Fleck has shown hee-haw in the last three years and cant even get in the scottish yout set up ahead of players from lesser teams. about time we realised he is not going to make it. wylde is fast but thats it. hutton looks a player but its ness who i reckon will be one of the countries top midfielders. he is pure class.

Flecks been guilty of not trying hard enough in my opinion,fat,lazy has talent but is waste`in his chance,needs a rocket up his s**tter or sold on

Fleck has had something to show us for the last 4-5 years... The only thinks to develop are his bad attitude and weight problem.

I think we only need 30 or 40 more signings in the next fortnight or I might check myself in to see a shrink...dont bother you live in the biggest lunatic asylum in the world...GLASGOW.

13 Aug 2011 00:14:49
i wonder if anyone can clear this up WE HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN WITHOUT A WORK PERMIT AND WE HAVE AN AMERICANS WORK PERMIT WITHOUT THE AMERICAN. something like that ?

Quality you couldnae write the script

I've got a wedding ring and no wife and i've also got a car i cant drive.Life can be cruel :-)

Lollol

13 Aug 2011 00:05:16
Would love to believe that whyte is the guy to take us on to a better financial holding but got to ask what is happening just now. Sound as if we are scared of actually paying decent monies to get the guys ally wants. Great if we can get value for money with signings but continually look as if we are only interested in the cheap options. Please, please go for the players and pay the money required. Heard too many rumours that whyte is dining out on the fact he is the new rangers owner without having to dig too deep to back that up. Where is the 10 million promised? Hopefully I can retract my concerns after the next two weeks when we have secured a few wins both at home and in Europe and ally has secured a couple of signings

Would we not be better paying all of the dept and have a couple of iffy years then we will be ready when we are in a stronger place financially

12 Aug 2011 23:53:02
the unrest at Rangers is because we are for one worried about the size of the squad and of both quantity and quality of what's going in to it. Ally told us he would be going for quantity and not quality.

I think we would agree we haven't seen the quantity yet. Loan singings are a sham, great for 1 season then we are back to where we started.

Starting to think the job Ally has taken on is getting worse by the day, feel for the guy because hes got a mamoth job on his hands, fickle fans wont help

People need to give ally ah break hes not 5 mins even into the job, have faith in him

mon the bears

Smith get ur finger out and help ally he cant work miracles with one hand tied behind his back

What you on about man, it obvious we need quality, during both games in the malmo match we cudnt even bring on anyone decent to turn around the score

12 Aug 2011 23:29:34
Bedoya visa agreed. Does that mean we will get him before transfer window shuts?

J J

No because the clubs need to agree a fee now. Rangers were just getting this part out of the way sharpish so they were not waiting around like they are doing in regards to McKay.