Rangers Banter Archive October 12 2012

12 Oct 2012 22:21:07
Did anybody else hear Davie Provan refer to Scotland as Celtic tonight?

What should we do to him for that awful slip of the tougne? Get him sacked? Tortured? Or maybe you just get a life mate! L1888

That slip of toung was the least of our problems.

Inverbear

Got what we deserved tonight,totally toothless performance,
levein is a total fud and the sooner he gets emptied the better,
2 points from 3 games (against the weakest teams i must add) has surely ended any hopes of reaching brazil given aside fletchers goal being wrongly disallowed we were well beaten by gareth bale.

(F.A.O of O.P) Yes, Davie Provan produced a wee slip of the tongue, should he be water boarded until he admits that he gets a bit excited by the occasion & sometimes drivel emanates from his mouth?

Get a grip, he corrected himself immediately, desist looking for reasons to be offended!

Was the poor result not more important than D.P making a mistake?

Do you that he grew up supporting Rangers? but he attended the wrong school so he had no chance to sign for the club at the time as the signing policy was embedded in the 17th century!

Oh f**k I'm in rant mode now! Mr Jock Stein, Murdo McLeod, Kenny Dalglish & Paul Lambert also grew up as Rangers supporters. Do you(O.P) want then condemned as infidels against your beliefs?
OK rant over, the result tonight surely must be the final nail in the coffin of Avril (Craig) Levein, Whitney (Peter) Houston & Cilla (Kenny) Black- simply not good enough!

Davie Provan talking mince is really not a problem!

ThatsNotMyName

Time we grew up no problem with David provan slip of the tongue let's concentrate on our team hope it didn't waste your Friday night

@4 Yes the OP is wrong. But what is that drivel from you. Rangers, Protestants who played for Celtic all because the OP mentions Celtic? Get a life and get therapy.

Bloody hell, the OP only asked if anyone heard it!! He did not say anymore than that. Thatsnotmyname, you have some issues you should get seen to.

Well he would not have slipped up and said rangers because the team scored away from home

I remember from the age of 5 when i went to primary school in shettleston , 5 year olds shouting across the road at each other about proddy dogs eat the frogs ,catholic cats eat the rats ,face facts things will never change and its the same in football ,these things i done when i was 5 didnt make me a bad person but taught me which was the best team to support lol doug t.s.o

The worst thing that can happen from a slip of the tounge is that it can get all brown.

@9 are you saying you only support your club because your dog prefers frogs to rats ??

No 11 im not french but had a frog in my house the other week put it back into the garden ,now rats ive had my fair share of them last one i towed up the ar-e with my size 11s ,i support my team as its a way of life for me same as you wander up by the barras every 2 weeks to support your team ,visit the village you get the best curry in glasgow there f-ck wish i was there tonight starving now lol doug t.s.o

Provan made a slip of the Tongue that's all nothing sinister

No 11 i havent got a dog ,but i bet youve got one lol lol doug t.s.o

12 Oct 2012 21:43:17
That German ref was easy to bribe what a true person Craig levein and Scotland got exactly what they deserved the night and that's why Adam never made it at ibrox lazy lazy boy

Agree totally with the comment about Adam, his attempt to close Bale down was disgraceful. Everyone knows how dangerous Bale is in these situations yet Adam makes no attempt to close him down. {Ed001's Note - to be fair, every time Adam gets within 5 yards of Bale, Bale throws himself to the floor, claims a dangerous tackle, spends the next 6 weeks whining to the media and get Adam a load of abuse. He was probably just trying to be careful. We all know Bale is a diver and would love yet another excuse to pretend to be hurt and get someone sent off.}

Ed, You would love him to be Scottish tho!!!!!!! If you are going to act as an arbiter talk sense. Bale is a player. {Ed001's Note - why would I? I don't care what nationality he is, I hate cheats and he is a cheat.}

You hate cheats and you support Gers ?? Bit of a dichotomy there then !! {Ed001's Note - where did I say I supported Rangers? Never once have I suggested that.}

Ok Ed. call a truce. u do a good job keeping control of all posters ! But Bale is aplayer ! {Ed001's Note - only because of his pace, the rest of his game is nothing special, it is that blistering pace that raises him above the pack.}

Sorry ed but Maloney himself has cleared Bale of diving and twice Adam has put in poor tackles against Bale. My point was that Adam never made an attempt to close down or tackle Bale and for all you think Bale dives u can't deny his ability. Everyone knows how dangerous Bale is and to give him a free shot a goal was suicide. Adam wasn't good enough for Rangers, Liverpool or Scotland {Ed001's Note - I don't care what Maloney has said, Bale himself has not just admitted diving, but also that he tries to get penalties and cards for his opponents by doing so. To your second point, I was actually joking, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, regarding Adam. By the way, those poor tackles against him were just poor tackles, but the way he whined and whinged about them for weeks afterwards was a disgrace. He needs to man up and get on with it, people like him are an embarrassment to the sport and make football a laughing stock.}

12 Oct 2012 18:13:23
Bears
What is Chico trying to do when he talks to the press? Talk about trying to build walls and a siege mentality. He really doesn't do you guys credit. An early post suffered the guy was out of his depth. I think that's bang on - he came for a quick profit(fair enough) but he didn't reckon on the constant spotlight (but no doubt his pupetmaster did

12 Oct 2012 21:55:07
You guy's must be worried about Chico, you never stop going on about him. Siege mentality ? I'm thinking Celtic last season, the season before, and the season before that, and so on.

12 Oct 2012 18:01:35
SIMPLE ANSWERS PLEASE MR GREEN........

Just how much cash are you and the 'investors' trousering from the potential £20m mooted?. Until we know, should we invest?

PC Loyal

Think your on the wrong site if you are looking for an answer from Mr Green.Why don't you e/mail or better still write him a letter let us know how you get on.

12 Oct 2012 17:49:25
Bears - prepare for some respite from Timmy for a couple of hours as we see who Gary Hooper really is loyal to.....Celtic or The Bank Manager. I heard hes always been a Liverpool fan!

Nae bother m8 if hooper wants to leave let him go there is no player bigger than celtic Liverpool better have a lot of cash.Henke7

12 Oct 2012 18:50:00
A win / win situation for Celtic even if there is any substance to this paper hype .... bet you wish that the teddy bears had an assett worth 20% of Gary Bhoys valuation eh ...?

What a berk.Hooper is loyal to his career like any ambitious professional person.If we get a good mark up then i wish the boy well.......green jhedi

If hooper leaves we will get more money than your doomed share issue

And more milliuns for Celtic Yee Hah

Very surprised if Liverpool came in for him. Their glory days are well behind them, but don t believe that Hooper would be a good acquisition for them. One thing getting goals in Scotland. Maybe the likes of Fulham or mid table team.

Wonder who the Liverpool fans would prefer in their team. Andy Carroll or Gary Hooper?

I know who I'd prefer and - clue - I'm not a fan of his ponytail.

12 Oct 2012 15:39:56
hi ed, just wondering, if everbody thinks mr green wants to make money on a share issue for his personal gain ( ie - proft into his own bank account), surely it would make more sense to hold off until rangers gained success, promotion, cup success ,then float the club for profit ?? boyblue !! {Ed001's Note - it would certainly make more sense to float after promotion, to me.}

So why isn't he doing that if it makes sense?
Is it because Rangers is technically insolvent? With more expenditure than income? Who knows? No accounts!

Surely the premium time to float would be on gaining promotion to the First division? This would give a surge of cash for players to get ready for an SPL return,and please forget this "we wont go into the SPL " nonsense,Green would go tomorrow if given the chance.

FFS How many times does the guy have to say to people what the money is for pick up any paper from USA to The Gulf and it is stated very clearly what the intentions are!!!!!!!!!
Looking at the voting on the posts you can tell the dims have been out in force over the last few hours they are terified we get this right and it becomes the News story of the next 12 months!

@3: no they aren't. If you truly believe that, you shouldn't be allowed out with money, let alone to buy shares.

12 Oct 2012 18:52:22
A huge risk if you as me .

Yeah right it will be you DIMS that subscibe to this nonsence

News story for the next 12 month's ,well you have been for the last 4.
Tam

12 Oct 2012 15:05:10
Man this forum is hard work reading at times! I feel sorry for the editors who have to trawl it and the stuff I see is the stuff that makes it through.

I wish more bears could see the bigger picture.

When Charles Green doesn't tell us much (shrewd for business) we complain that he is being secretive and underhanded. When he tells us his plans and aims we complain he's a liar because they don't all come to fruition.

He cant win!

Now lets look at his latest statement:

Rangers as part of a mini Euro league!

Now this has probably been advised as a possible route for us to progress as before and no doubt issued prior to a share release to encourage outside investment.

Will my fellow bears see this for what it is or will we see it as "ANOTHER LIE FROM MR GREEN" because a couple people come out and say there is no plan in place?

Lets apply some common sense and decorum!

Bluegenius

I didnt think it was that bad for the eds ... until i read your post

Was that not said about whyte,... and that did not turn out well.

Who knows if green good or bad, time will tell.

But if he said, look i been part of 28 companies floating, and 14 of them lost all value for shareholders, but this makes me experience... all fine and well.

He can be open, say what financial situation really is, who owns ibrox etc etc, be very clear and limit financial peril gers in...

or he can chop and change, say this to some (only gers fans to buy shares), then say (its public offering) next day, etc etc etc ... and be obscure and less than open.

his choice.... seems only fair to pick at any statement and ensure gers fans have best information on which to make decision.

the club could depend on this decision.

Once minute he saves it from the brink, next it will be in europe soon.. ?

Do you think Aston Villa will ever sell GERS any players, or buy players in future... ? no ?

IT'S ANOTHER LIE FROM GREEN.
Proof: 1. nobody at Uefa would confirm this nonsense, pulling Rangers out of div3 football and into European elite.
2. Rangers are barred from European competition for minimum 3 years. No accounts. Or is Uefa going to change that regulation also thus allowing brand new clubs into these mythical leagues?

Green is an international embarrassment to us. But this is what you get in our situation. The only eejit to step forward hoping to spiv a big profit, but he's out his depth.

I am not saying Green is a good guy or that he is to be trusted.

My point is that some bears are never happy no matter what is said.

I agree that we need open and honest answers and it's good knowing what our aims are but we must then accept that not everything will come to pass!

For me the jury is still out on Green but I don't jump on every statement that doesn't bear fruit immediately.

Do I think we will end up in Euro league? No!

Bluegenius

12 Oct 2012 14:17:39
A quote today from Charles Green:

"There will be a European league because big teams can't keep subsidising small teams for the next 10 years because they will go stale," said Green.

Subsidising small teams? This club couldn't pay Bhutta's newsagents £567.45 several months back. Embarrassing that he even mentions REAL big clubs in the same breath as the debt-welching shower that he runs.

Give us some robust accounts for the next few years then people at the top table might start to take this club seriously again. Until then, keep your mouth shut and show some humility to the 276 creditors the club shafted.

Gaz {Ed039's Note - Gaz, your posts are usually quite good mate, but remember its the Rangers fans that read this forum, not Charles Green or Craig Whyte or David Murray, but the people who put their hard earned in only to be left heartbroken in the end. We didnt gub these creditors, the big wigs did. No more posts about what small creditors, their names or how much were owed will be posted for everyones info)

Green never shafted anyone. he didnt own rangers plc, still doesnt now and will never own rangers plc, also time you people learned football isnt a game its a business, people are there to make money one way or another. Get over, go support your team and maybe one day we will be back in the top flight winning championships.

Fair point be the Ed. the bears didn't do it ,the suits did. HH

Fair point Ed but it was only a matter of time till some Gers fan was going to come on and agree with his garbage I would imagine. Call it a pre-emptive strike if you want.

I've never been one to question Rangers history, they are still the same club to me, I was in the opposite end often enough when they won some of their trophies to appreciate that. But there is needless to say a blot on that history book and Green's comments today all but bypass it.

Regardless of fans coming through the gate in revenue terms Rangers are insignificant to Europe's powerbrokers right now and my post was to perhaps remind some fans eager to swallow Green's nonsense that recent history does not afford Rangers a place at that table.

But sure on the names of the small creditors, point taken.

Gaz

To mr "obsessed", it was a case of mr. whyte not "choosing" to pay rangers debts, not the case he couldnt !!

Good day to bury bad news with upbeat story.... the bad news... liquidation in court??

@ 1) "Time you people learned football isn't a game it's a business." It being a business and the ramifications of it being a business was the whole point of my post. What are you rambling on about?

Given a recent "business" history akin to Woolworth's or Northern Rock why would any of these big business clubs welcome you?

Gaz

@4, are you being serious? are you saying that the money was there just whyte didnt hand it over? get a grip!

Far more likely that financial pressures collapse the lower leagues, and we see less leagues and less teams, so limited money goes further.

This the real threat to gers, div 3 lost, and most of the teams in it.

Rangers hopes on move to 2 leagues in scotland, but even that may be too little too late.

@ 4 Oh he had the cash did he? All of it? And selling the Arsenal shares was just decluttering?

As for "obsessed" when will you realise we are all here for the comedy gold you supply near daily. With the cunning of Baldrick, the rage of Homer Simpson and the business acumen of Del Boy you are arguably the best sit-com around. You even had your own catchphrases, "We don't do walking away", "In Craig we trust."

Well to paraphrase another sit-com catchphrase "I didn't get where I am today without seeing the irony and stupidity in those statements."

Gaz

@1 So Charlie never put forward a ridiculously
low offer for the CVA, thus putting the oldco into liquidation so he can then buy the asset's on the cheap.Aye right another deluded bear, think's Charlie's being truthful.
Tam

12 Oct 2012 14:05:15
Anyone know who is the ref for the scotland game tonight? looking at the bookings bet and want to know whos in charge..
FauldsRFC {Ed039's Note - German ref Florian Meyer)

12 Oct 2012 18:48:32
Cheers ed

12 Oct 2012 12:35:25
Some of these posts criticising Charles Green are unreal!

He is hardy going to plough is own cash into a club in the trouble we were. He has got investors, there were meant to be more but that was before we were in Division 3. Stop seeing the worst ineverything. He has brouh us from the brink, been open and honest and he is a business men, his job is to make him money and his investors, if he didnt he would be doing his job wrong. He hardly going to save our club and lose all his own money is he.

He has not brought us from the brink. We went over the brink and got liquidated. Get used to the truth mate and stop repeating Green's nonsense.

12 Oct 2012 12:07:24
when is the shares being offered up as i as a true rangers fan will defo be getting shares
WATP

Charles Green: Consistent with what I said from the first day at Murray Park I intend to put the club back on AIM.�

Don't remember him mentioning AIM on his first day at Murray Park and Rangers as far as I know have never been on AIM so how can we be put back there?

PS. Anyone recieved their ballot paper on renaming Murray Park yet. Think my form must have been lost in the post.

I'm sure the saying is "A fool and his money are soon parted"

In Chuck we Trust

Well done 0P - if fans, like you buy even one share they're helping our club. Anyone criticizing an individual for buying our shares has an agenda.

With all respect, the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

I have no agenda, and won t criticise paople for doing it, all I will say is don t expect to make a return on your investment, if you don t mind losing money( only paper loss til you sell) go for it. Plenty better bets out there than football shares.

12 Oct 2012 15:30:08
I got an e.mail you'd be interested in its from a nigerian guy apparently some prince has left 100s of million of pounds and all you'll need to do is send him your bank details. Don't be a mug anyone criticising the share issue is merely applying common sense at its most basic level.

I detect, a majority of postings, on our site, being from Celtic fans that are totally opposed to the buying of shares, for one reason only, it could help make Rangers financially stronger. Geo the Ger

What's the agenda. If fans don't buy the shares then Chuck's gonna underwrite it.

You never stop to think that there's some Gers fans who genuinely don't want to see their fellow fans fork out money on shares that are basically a donation to a consortium made up largely of very rich Middle Eastern businessmen?

Geo the Ger.If you believe it will make Rangers financially stronger go for it man sell your house and all your possesion's and give it all to Charlie but don't come crying when it goe's tit's up.
Tam

@8: so all the posts questioning Green must be Celtic fans? Grow up and try to be a bit objective: there are many Rangers fans who have doubts about the share issue, its timing and its purpose.

Blatantly obvious No 11) is another septic supporter against buying shares, wonder why? Well done Charles in trying to raise funds for the many hurdles that lay ahead for Rangers.

12 Oct 2012 22:59:26
@12: sorry to disappoint but i'm not. Just think it's not a bad idea to be objective about the issue. Obviously you can't be and are juvenile or daft enough to believe anyone with such an opinion is a Celtic fan. Just as well not all rangers fans are like you and some are asking the questions you won't.

12 Oct 2012 11:32:51
Green on BBC: I believe this to be a completely defective story from his flop share offer:
Rangers chief executive Charles Green predicts European overhaul
12 October 12 11:14

Chief executive Charles Green believes Rangers will be involved in the formation of a new European league.
Green's consortium relaunched the Ibrox club after the former incarnation could not be saved from liquidation.
Rangers currently play in Scottish Football League Division Three.
"There will be a European league because big teams can't keep subsidising small teams for the next 10 years because they will go stale," said Green.
"Arsenal don't want to play Southampton or Swansea, but ask them if they want to play Celtic or Rangers. It's what the fans want to see.
"Fans across the world want to see Manchester United play Barcelona, not just once every few years but every season.
"If there are two divisions of 18 clubs, how could Rangers not be a part of that?
"I'm convinced it will happen because otherwise where will the revenues for the top come from?
"These days Arsenal are struggling to sell out their game against West Ham."
Last month, BBC Scotland revealed Scottish clubs, including Rangers, were to discuss the possibility of being part of a new European regional league set-up.
Uefa is believed to be becoming increasingly concerned by the polarisation across the game between the top clubs and top leagues and is open to change.
And Green added: "How can Manchester United's revenues be £320m and Aston Villa, who are completely useless, get £250m?
"What Manchester United put into world football is massive, but what they take out of it is a joke and they won't put up with that for much longer."

Green is trying to tell fans they could be buying into a European league and not div3. Our reality is div3. Concentrate on stabilising the club financially and getting good results on the div3 fields.

A good post, Green is getting ahead of himself he should concentrate getting us back to where we belong, and where every other chairpeople in Scotland know we belong. He be should telling our supporters what they want to hear and make it happen, not telling them what they want to hear and doing nothing, then we might back him and his issues. The Gers fans have been through enough woes mainly generated by the
people who run our club, giving fans of other clubs the opportunity to gloat at us, we have had enough talk, time for action. If he can't do this then he should sell to a true rangers consortium ( and there are some out there ) and go and try and con some mugs who may be taken in by his lies.
Bobby

Having lived in England for 30 years I cannot recall a single person wanting the Old Firm to join an English league. Ask the people of Manchester what they think. People do not want to import vile sectarianism and all that entails. {Ed039's Note - And these last few months and weeks have shown that the English league has a halo above its head, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Joey Barton but to name a few who are all above the vile secterianism and all that entails. Away back to the rumours pages of the biggest and best league in the world and give us peace)

Been here before in fact evey few months for the past 20 years. Rangers have to accept they are a ruined club playing lowest tier football in a backwater. The £20m Green is proposing to raise is not enough to buy a decent squad player and pay his wages see Man U for details.
If Green is planning to compete at this level he requires £500m+.

I am a true blue but think this is true ****.
We are not likely to be asked to join as one of the top 36 clubs in Europe we have sunk so low behind even 3 level English clubs so why would Europes elite need or want us anymore.
As I questioned before CG has def gone out of his way to ensure we will never be back in the SPHELL this is another example of this stance.
DaveWATP

When i was a young lad watching black and white westerns they used to tar and feather snake oil salesmen then run them out of town .

And Green added: "How can Manchester United's revenues be £320m and Aston Villa, who are completely useless, get £250m?

Gers revenues next year stated as circa £20 million at best... no comparison. how the mighty have fallen. {Ed039's Note - Great way to make friends with people at Aston Villa as well)

After his most recent press outburst (Green
rubbishing Southhamton and Villa)he has certainly the ability to make friends in football.Access both these club sites if you want proof.Both inundated with posts re' the aforementioned.And the sad thing about it is they think he's a daft SCOTSMAN

CG is a lunatic, way out of his depth - "Aston Villa, who are completely useless" . . . aye right, unlike the mighty Stirling. How would The Rangers do against Villa! The man is a bufoon. On Ilkley Moor Ba Tat. Go home, and take your whippets with you.

He does have a little too much to say ref Aston Villa and Chelsea stadium for instance.
The jury is still out. I for one will not be buying shares- have enough in other companies.

He did have a wee dig at Stamford Bridge too ed. {Ed039's Note - Yeah, I have liked him so far, but that is not a good way to go about making friends, especially teams that have quality young players who might be looking for a loan move in the future)

@4

Probably the fact of the large fan base, big stadium would help. However how likely is there to be a European league??

Rangers revenue for this season might be about the £20-£25m mark. Last season Messi got paid £27.5m by Barca, that is nothing to do with sponsors or endorsements, purely cash from his club. That is the reality of the gulf between Rangers and top clubs currently.

If Europe had leagues of 20 teams, Rangers may well be top division in supporter terms, in revenue terms fourth or fifth division, on the park (currently) - no where to be seen. You would currently fulfil one of the three criteria that would impress them. A non-starter of a proposal from Green.

Gaz

Big team's can't keep subsidising small team's ?. Was it not the small team's that kept you in football Charlie short memory.
Tam

12 Oct 2012 10:57:37
Ed, is Green lying when he says Ibrox is the only class one stadium in Scotland. Both Hampden Park and Celtic Park are obviously better stadia. In addition Ibrox really is in a mess and needs a lot spent to sort it out.
If its truthful, when is Uefa going to reclassify our stadia? {Ed039's Note - Technically its correct. Ibrox has a higher UEFA classification than Hampden and Parkhead, maybe this is why he wants to raise capital to bring it in line again, maybe he doesnt want it reclassified)

Hampden is on the same list of elite stadia as Ibrox.

How is celtic park obviously better than ibrox, wake up my man ibrox is light years ahead. For a start the top tier above the main stand at ibrox cost more than the entire cost to build that meccano set you have!

Of course ibrox is a class one stadium. And see all this nonsense about it falling to pieces I wish people would stop talking Sh,t I went for a tour the other week and except for some visible rust on the main facade on the main stand the stadium is gorgeous but that can be expected after all it's ninety years old the other three stands are in excellent condition the hospitality suites are superb the trophy room is amazing. And before you ask yes it was my first time at ibrox and next year I hope to buy my first season ticket. As for parkheid it's made of breeze blocks and looks disgusting

@2. Very petty response. The UEFA regulations covering stadia classification make no comment on cost. It is about parking, press area, pitch size, etc.
Al

12 Oct 2012 16:03:43
Class 1, elite, magnificent stadium bought for approx £1.5m...........including traing complex and extensive car park.hmmm nothing fishy going on here then...the aroma of coffee is refreshing for those that look through clear glasses///

No 3 when did you go on your tour of parkhead then ?? or are you just making things up as you type

@6 I actually went to parkheid when it was first built my best mate is a huge Celtic fan and we used to go past it on the way to the barrows one day he said I got a tour from my grandad as a birthday present do you want to come with me I'm no bigot so said aye why no believe you me it was nothing special how would I put it a bit grey lol

Poster 7 you wouldnt have spent long in the trophy room lol lol doug t.s.o

OP i have first hand experience of all 3 grounds ,hampden has more rust on its beams on the roof than adams scrap yard in govan ,i put temporary corner flag floodlights in at the corner flags there , parkheid the turnstyles and other building materials supplied when they were renovating it ,it was a mad panic and the safety certificate was only granted days before the first match was to be played on the saturday ,ibrox ,the present sliding tunnell was on the back of my truck ( what an honour ) ps.it came from a company in yoker ,my son took me for a tour round ibrox for my birthday what a change for the better when i took him in 1986 and ,when i was there in 1960 ,highlight was up in old press box and trophy room doug t.s.o

12 Oct 2012 10:01:47
Charles green: saying reason for floating now is "In two years' time the price of entry for the
fans will be three to four times higher than we can bring them
in [at] now. Really ? that infers a market value of £120m in two years time. thats three and ahlaf timnes celtic market value - do you get the impression he makes it up as he goes along?

This guy looks more and more amateurish by the day.

I am / was a shareholder in the true with history Rangers Football Club. The money paid never got any annual dividend but I was happy that my money was helping invest in the club I loved.
So if I put in 500 this time will I be able to cash it in a few years time and get say 2000 our will I get a annual return on my investment.
Watch out for the flying pigs taking off from Glasgow Airport?

I have literally lost count of the amount of...let's call them mistakes that Green has come out with

Saying that even though the TF and the Telegraph have rubbished his share issue plans I would still think it would do reasonably well. Green just has to keep on with the tirades against the SPL and the possibility of stripped titles.

In fact, I'm sure if titles were stripped before the share issue then the share issue would be a huge success and Charlie and Imran and money men like Arif Navqi would be very happy men.

Or am I just an old cynic?

12 Oct 2012 08:47:06
Durrant has publicly stated that
"the players have a problem with the facilities at the away grounds they visit"
I challenge Durrant to come on this blog and explain exactly what these problems are and how they affect the players performance on the park.

Look we seen it on TV at half time somewhere in the sticks, They were all standing outside in the rain around Ally. Ally was soaking stood in a suit. Water running over his eyes and nose. It's not how bad the facilities were, there weren't any facilities!

@1. Are you talking to the Brechin game which went to extra time. Even in the best stadiums you don't go back to the changing rooms at extra time. During normal time it was your illustrious manager's decision to stand in the rain in a suit to make some kind of point or let the fans see how committed he was or something.
At Berwick the sun was splitting the skies and I didn't see the manager and team standing about outside at half-time.
Al

Maybe a cup game? Forres?

Durrant needs to go.
If Ally's on a Million, how much does he and the other training staff swindle from the remaining £5m?