Rangers Banter Archive November 12 2014

 

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12 Nov 2014 15:18:33
just to put it out there and see what other bears think, but maybe It might be shown that Ashley was picked because his offer of a flexible line of credit was preferable to a flat loan from other interested parties, thoughts ???

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12 Nov 2014 16:25:15
Ashley's offer was chosen because he is in cahoots with the other spivs who are milking the club for everything its worth.

Obviously any sensible businessman was not going to agree to Dave King's offer as it would mean diluting their investment by half and relinquishing control of the cash cow.

Ashley has been behind the scenes from the very start and this is evident when the stadium's naming rights and retail contracts came to light.

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Boyblue, It might be flexible but it lures you to the end game i. e. Having us by the short and curlies.
Again, that might not be a bad thing if it takes us forward. Yes, Ashley wants to use us to make money, but is that so bad if we become a secure outfit.
Again, what are the alternatives? King, Murray etc. -- not an option -- look when and why they show interest. Or maybe Brian Kennedy-- that is an option I would like to see. I have posted before on this subject and still think that a Ashley/Kennedy pact would be ideal for us.
Always remember that Ashley is no mug and will duck and dive to achieve his goal--- money.
He, in my opinion, has offered his olive branch [ the naming rights. ] so let's go forward with an open mind and see what happens. Our options don't bear thinking about.
Just one more thing, I have no doubt Ashley has been involved from day one. Good or bad thing? Time will tell.

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Rabmac you said ( cahoots with the other spivs ) use your head mate ashaley is a BILLIONAIRE he is not in cahoots with easedales or anyone else. He is in this for himself and he sees a massive oportunity to aquire a club like Rangers for in his terms small change. IF AND I MEAN IF Ashaley does take over then he's not coming up here to bump us out of a few million quid sell murry park or ibrox and the liquadate us like craig whyte. He would be coming up here to make us stable first of all then make us a force in scottish football again so that he makes money from the retail side of things (which if we are run the right way he will make a fortune)

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12 Nov 2014 15:07:42
Loan after loan, crisis loans are all just too keep the lights on!! Ashley no interest pmsl. aye rite he has plenty interest in making money, naming rites a token gesture, this new crisis loan will keep us going till Xmas, what next? Keep borrowing? F sake it's never gnna change unless wee cleanse the full club company& get a sustainable business plan ala hearts. wished this was done nearly 3years ago, I don't fear the worst no more, as I don't have a clue what the worst will be

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12 Nov 2014 14:13:33
I think it's time for Rangers fans boycotting to return. No point in waiting for the 12th of Never for " Rangers men " wrestling control of the club, be it a King, Kennedy or Paul Murray. We have the shareholders we have and who have ploughed their money into ownership by deed and not word.

Ashley has made a more than generous contribution and gesture financially and giving up naming rights to Ibrox. Everyone has their right of course to vote with their feet but I hope we all come to our senses and see the glass as half full again and that the players and club need us. For sure some supporters will not return but the vast majority of those staying away need to ask themselves some searching questions now.

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12 Nov 2014 16:33:52
Paul Murray only interested in spending others money never put any up himself!!king time waster time to face facts no gers fan going to save them!!if Ashley gets control it will be a business to make himself money but would have to make us succesful to have the fans happy to attend games and buyin strip after strip I don't see him getting control a bad thing if he gets us in the end

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12 Nov 2014 13:31:35
Big announcement on official site about being able to use credit cards again for tickets etc, coincidence it's on the same day rangers announce a new commercial deal and loan from sports direct. More family silver sold down the river?

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12 Nov 2014 14:08:42
Ashley is going to keep drip feeding Rangers money in the form of secured loans. He is doing this in the knowledge that Rangers can't afford to pay the loans, so he will either take shares or the asset that is secured against the loan when Rangers default on the loan.

The fact he is being allowed to do this suggests to me that he is in cahoots with the current regime.

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12 Nov 2014 14:55:15
And that's the point Rabmac if fans keep the boycott up then there is no money coming in, the loans can't be paid and so it will continue loans secured against assets until there's nothing left to give so its imperative the. fans come back and support the club and it helps pay loans back, let's see were ashley wants to take us as it stands we're losing the club bit by bit anyway.
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12 Nov 2014 15:06:27
Of course he's in cahoots with the current regime,I don't think that's ever been in doubt.I think fans like myself are hoping he sells Newcastle and assumes full control,at that point the current regime will be of no further use to him and bought/forced out. I don't think he does partners.

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12 Nov 2014 15:25:04
I really can't see him giving up his stake in Newcastle as the Premiership has a far greater audience than the SPL, which means his Sports Direct brand gets noticed by more people.

The way I see it is that the his interests in Newcastle and Rangers are only going to come into conflict if both teams qualify for Europe.

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12 Nov 2014 15:38:20
RabMac: I've stuck my neck out on this site,and to pals that are never going back to Ibrox,some after 40 years in the hope Ashleys intentions are outright ownership of the club.We can't go on with these loans.What happens next month? We need a statement of intent from somewhere.

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12 Nov 2014 16:33:16
@ GKK - my take on Ashley is he does not want control of the club and he is only interested in Rangers from a business perspective.

What I think is going to happen is that Ashley will keep Rangers afloat until the end of the season by drip feeding them secured loans. The purpose of this is to gain control of all the profitable parts of the business. Once he has what he wants the cost cutting will start.

The only good news for Rangers fans is that it does not make good business sense for Ashley if Rangers go back into administration as he needs a functioning Rangers for him to see dividends on his investments. That is why I think the cost cutting will come into play once he has what he wants.

What we need to remember is that while Rangers exist, Ashley will make money from them and this is independent of success on the park.

Obviously, I could be wrong but I don't think I am because that is what he has done at Newcastle.

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13 Nov 2014 13:34:29
Rabmac: Are you a Rangers fan? I've noticed in your posts you always use the term "Rangers" not we,us,our etc.I know this is an open forum and all fans are welcome.I'm just curious.

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12 Nov 2014 10:24:38
would love to no what the new partnership between rangers and sports direct is but very much doubt we will get to no wouldn't be surprised to see sport direct get more percentage of sales than rangers do
the board have got a cheek blaming the
fans for needing another million pound loan they are the ones that got us in this mess not the fans never in my life seen a business try to blame its customers for the mess it gets it self in

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Aye spot on there pal think we are *****d aw ways up here.

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12 Nov 2014 09:26:14
had a txt from a friend saying, mike ashley has given rangers another million pound, and dropped the rights for renaming ibrox !!!

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12 Nov 2014 09:33:15
Yes he has dropped the naming rights for Ibrox and apparently a new marketing partnership deal has been agreed. Who they are and what it involves I am not sure yet.

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12 Nov 2014 10:30:34
From what I've read its a revised marketing deal with sports direct, also the club have said the extra million loan is due to poor attendance & another loan will be needed by end of year as I said on hear before the boycotts ain't working they are harming the club & if u don't like ashley then by staying away u are just strengthening his position as if and when he provides future loans he will want assets put up against them until he owns the crown jewels, no fans = no money = can't pay loans = loss of assets
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Rf your right that's the reason i went back the boycott must cease now

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