Rangers Banter Archive July 12 2020

 

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12 Jul 2020 20:48:15
Question guys

As this stupid rumour intensifies about Gerrard earmarked for Bristol city

How would you all feel

I for one have criticised his tactics at times and some of his sightings
But the fact he has spent a few quid on players and wages etc and not won a trophy as yet and with this season let's be honest is going to be a big one to try wrestle the tittle away from Celtic
I would be absolutely raging if he left now with so little time left until season starts and having let a good few players go would be leaving our team weak with short time for a new manger to come in and sort out players going and coming in
Honestly this could end up an absolute shambles and a nightmare for our club

Yes it's rumours and hopefully entirely false rumours
But if it indeed happened honestly how angry would everyone be?

Hopefully we don't get to find out what the circumstances would come about if it indeed happened

I just hope the only thing in Gerrard mind is who he is going to bring in to this squad to help us wrestle the league away from the east end!



12 Jul 2020 21:19:25
Imo the only way Steven Gerrard would go to Bristol is for the money and why would a very wealthy man go there when he can win the league with us and become a legend at two of the biggest football clubs in the world. It's ok the Bristol chairman saying he's going to bank roll him but the championship is full of rich owners that have put millions into their clubs and won heehaw.



12 Jul 2020 21:34:07
Guys steven gerrard WON'T leave rangers for bristol city, absolutely no chance!



12 Jul 2020 23:13:41
Gerrard is going nowhere. He is totally focused on Rangers. He knows and appreciates we are a huge club. European football, the best and biggest support in the world. Give all that up for Bristol City? I think not. Now I'm not Gerrards biggest fan as he hasn't done enough for me yet . However he is our manager so I'll obviously want him to succeed.



13 Jul 2020 02:43:46
Stuck, you talk pure sense matešŸ‡¬šŸ‡§āœŒļø.



13 Jul 2020 08:20:07
One thing we can't discount folks, is, 'What does his Family think', this can have a huge bearing on any decision that he would make. I would be amazed if he left for Bristol City, but, many weird things have happened in football during my lifetime thus far.



13 Jul 2020 08:22:39
Yeh, Gerrard is leaving the famous Glasgow Rangers to join the mighty, er. Bristol City! Aye, right.



13 Jul 2020 09:28:49
As a club we cannot stop other clubs being interested in ANY of our staff. However SG will not be leaving for a no mark team like Bristol City.
If a Top 10 Premiership club came calling maybe but I don't think he is ready just yet. He absolutely loves our club and Iā€™m sure he is focused on winning the league this season and putting an end to the tainted 9 3/ 4 s in a row!



13 Jul 2020 09:44:55
Canā€™t see SG leaving us for Bristol. he's determined to win something with us before he would consider moving on.



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12 Jul 2020 14:34:40
Can't wait to season starts and then we all will know who we have signed and haven't šŸ˜€.



12 Jul 2020 14:49:55
Not quite. Proposal appears to be window shuts in October.



12 Jul 2020 13:00:49
This season needs to kickoff now if not everyone on here will have everyone slated.
Gerrard not good enough
Fredo in a huff and not worth anything
Taverner not good enough as a player or captain
Dave king/ Douglas park not good enough chairmen
Goldson not good enough
Anyone else I've missed

It just gives the Celtic ammunition to have a go and drives any value out of the players.



12 Jul 2020 13:42:45
55rangers, it's only peoples opinions, we're not all the same. The 1 thing we all have in common, is we want Rangers to succeed.



12 Jul 2020 13:48:55
Thatā€™s right because the value of our players are determined by this forum!



12 Jul 2020 14:05:28
How can celtic drive done the value of our players.



12 Jul 2020 15:10:23
Doesn't stop it being true 55 rangersšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø. The last two seasons we have collapsed and won nothing. šŸ‘.



12 Jul 2020 15:34:51
I needed some emojis in the last post was meant more light hearted than it actually sounded. What I refer to with the Celtic is their army of has never beens appearing in the press periodically to slate Morelos Gerrard and anyone else they see as a threat at the same time promoting mince like ajar. Main point is we complain about getting no value for sales of players yet are very quick to criticize our platers. Me included sometimes. Will proof read next time to see it doesn't look as much of a rantšŸ˜‚.



12 Jul 2020 15:37:14
Coldo we've come along way though if that last step has illuded us need I remind of progres and caxinio.



12 Jul 2020 16:12:54
I think if Gerrard long term plan is Pool he needs visibility and he has a far better chance of that here than with Bristol City. He knows success at gers puts him in pole position for Pool job but success at City puts him nowhere.



12 Jul 2020 18:16:17
True 55, under pedro and warbs we collapsed before the season started and won nothing whereas under Gerrard we collapse halfway through the season and win nothing. 3rd time lucky šŸ¤žšŸ‘.



12 Jul 2020 19:33:50
Coldo, do you think Gerrard would have been shown the door if he wasnt Steven Gerrard? Has his name kept him in a job at Rangers?



12 Jul 2020 20:33:41
Think to an extent, stuck, your right. But celtic had a huge start, and he's definitely closed the gap significantly.



12 Jul 2020 21:02:14
Agreed hwg55 think our expectations now show how much we've moved on. Under previous managers I didn't feel like we deserved to win anything. But under Gerrard I feel like we deserved to win silverware last year go as far to say we were the better team for a good part of the season. Think this year will prove Gerrard as a manager. Win the league could make him a legend.



13 Jul 2020 08:23:51
As far as I am concerned, any Celtic minded posters or journalists can try and degrade us all they want, I would say that should be the biggest motivator for us to ram it to them.



13 Jul 2020 09:24:36
Stuck I believe that 100% the only reason he is still here is because of who he is.

I donā€™t want rid of him far from it but signings and tactics I. e formation needs to change this season.

A different question guys do you believe SG can win the league for us this season?


My answer would be no I honestly donā€™t think he will but if we can get 3/ 4 1st team starters in I would change my mind.



12 Jul 2020 11:45:30
I see Bristol City want Gerrard and if reports are to be believed, their billionaire owner is willing to bankroll him with Ā£millions to gain them promotion to the Premier League. If this is true then will Gerrard be tempted. Three seasons at Bristol City, gain promotion and then go to Liverpool. It has to be a concern. Lansdown as quoted as saying that he will spend what it takes, reputedly, Bristol City has some promising young players. At Rangers he has to win the league this coming Season. What is everyone's view. For me, we have to hope that as he is a man of honour he will see out his contract but we must provide the funding to bring in players to give him a fighting chance of winning the league.



12 Jul 2020 12:02:00
Don't think Gerrard will want to leave with not proving himself here first.



12 Jul 2020 12:08:02
It wouldn't bother me if he went to be honest not been impressed by him so far.



12 Jul 2020 12:12:57
U never know with football. If he left we could always bring someone in better. Massive season for Rangers and for Gerrard. Either going to be a legend or go down as one of our worst ever managers. So far zero trophies won and about 20million lighter, need to win league this season coming or its a massive failure again.



12 Jul 2020 12:19:38
Dsger and who would u replace him with if he left.



12 Jul 2020 12:20:40
Paul not sure how 20 million lighter. He made us near 30 million from Europe.



12 Jul 2020 12:22:27
Win nothing this new season and he will be gone with the wrath of our supporters ringing in his ears.

A tainted 9 and a possible ten will be too much for me and many others to bear ("bear" not a pun) .

Let the board and us get behind him for his FINAL push.



12 Jul 2020 12:22:55
So the billionaire will spend what it takes . FFP might stop that if it is relevant in the championship.



12 Jul 2020 12:28:19
No chance he goes this season we cannot bed in another manager and his spending needs
Whatever you think of him he gets the club and the importance of this season
We played some great football last season highlights included braga, strangely cup final where we played them off park and got cheated with a blatant offside goal
Lowest for me defeats to hearts in the cup
I think heā€™d go without being pushed if we win nothing this season.



12 Jul 2020 12:35:53
Cant see Gerrard leaving for Bristol City. Gerrard will not want to be know as a failure at Rangers. He's determined to succeed here.



12 Jul 2020 12:37:47
John meaning he's spent 20mill in transfers and won us abosultely zero. We made about 15mill from europe the 1st year we made groups yet the club still was minus like 11million on the books. And the majority of his signings ( including loans) have been duds.



12 Jul 2020 12:53:07
Let Bristol pay millions for Gerrard then and we could replace him with John Terry maybe then our defenders will learn how to defend.



12 Jul 2020 13:04:56
There's absolutely NO chance steven gerrard will leave rangers, to become the new bristol city manager, no matter what billionaire owns them!
Gerrard is a winner and as determined as a manager as he was as a world class midfielder for liverpool! He's also a very loyal guy. He will only leave rangers for a certain few clubs and be realistic guys, it won't be for bristol city.
He knows how honoured/ privileged he is to be the glasgow rangers manager! I stick by what i've said all along, that steven gerrard will win the league as rangers manager.



12 Jul 2020 13:10:15
How is he a failure and not good enough? European last 16 and competing with a team in the east who have had more year on year as a budget and investment with an established team and squad already in place. Gerrard has started with a team struggling to beat Aberdeen to second to playing the Celtic off the park. Need I mention progres?



12 Jul 2020 13:42:14
Hes brought in Dafoe, Borna, Katic, Edmunson, Arfield, Aribo, Goldson, Davis, Kent, Mcgregor, Haji, Helander, Kamara, Jones, Stewart, Polster, Flanagan. None of these are what I would call duds. Most of the duds are gone or were put out on loan. Only Barker remains and I think that was Mark Allens. Before he came in we looked like this.

Wes
Tav Cardoso Bates Declan John
Goss Holt
Candias Nico Windass
Waghorn

Subs, Miller, Wallace, Alf, Jack, Alves, Russel Martin, Hodson, Penna, Rossiter, Herrera, Doddoo, Ohaloran, Forester, Dalcio, Dorrans, Halliday etc etc.

The only players (apart from some youngsters) to have survived to this point at Rangers from 2017/ 18 are Alf, Jack and Tav.

We are not there yet and he know is it but we are getting closer to what a Rangers team should look like. This is Gerrards season with nowhere to hide as 95% of the players are his own, he knows the club, the fans, the league, the clubs, the weather, the pitches, the refs, the media, so no Silverware this time round then a portion of our fans will be asking questions.

I would argue however that getting to where we are in Europe is more beneficial than winning the league cup for example. He has to be given credit for that.



12 Jul 2020 13:52:51
I think it would be too risky for Gerrard tbh. He has it so easy up here.

Most of our fans are totally besotted by him and he can do no wrong.

If he was to go down south and fail at championship level his managerial career would be over before it even started. He would be back managing the Liverpool reserves in no time.



12 Jul 2020 13:56:00
Any Rangers manager who does not win a trophy in 3 years wonā€™t be there for a 4th regardless if it Gerrard or anyone else. The main ingredient we are missing is winning mentality and he has three players to find with this to give himself a chance.

I really hope he achieves it.

Great players are not always great managers. I blame the players in the last two seasons for their lack of ability to compete for the whole season but these players are now Gerardā€™s team so he will take the credit or the blame come May 2021.



12 Jul 2020 14:07:27
55

He has failed in his job so far I donā€™t care about Europe he has won a trophy in Scotland and thatā€™s what matters especially the league.
So at the moment he has Failed but can change that this season.



12 Jul 2020 14:26:32
I personally believe that he will stay with us, principally because he is a man of honour however, if he doesn't win the league this coming Season the Club needs to stick with him. I believe that he has done a remarkable job given what he inherited and the little funding that he has had to date. While not all of his signings have been a success we are certainly in a better position than before he arrived and our run in Europe has been quite exceptional. I just hope that he is given the financial support and our DoF can bring in three quality first team players since I believe that is all we are short of winning the league in 2021, (assuming of course that the SPFL don't come up with another fiddle to give it to those creatures in the East End) .



12 Jul 2020 14:35:17
John i think beale would be my coach to replace him acording to the platers its him that's doing all the donky work SG isn't working he's won zilch fur us i'm no sure but is he no the least succesful coach in our history i might have that part wrong tho.



12 Jul 2020 14:52:51
Paul think where we would be without his Europe money.



12 Jul 2020 14:55:30
Dsger on that basis if Beale doing all the donkey work he has then failed.



12 Jul 2020 14:55:43
Good post tjbb.



12 Jul 2020 15:30:10
Compare the history. Glasgow Rangers v Bristol City. I rest my case.



12 Jul 2020 15:38:13
Tjbb i would say a few of them are duds yes. stewart barker most of his loans. grezda jones hasn't exactly shined either . he also never signed mcgregor or arfield they were already in door b4 he was manager. just. yeah john without europe money we would be in whole world of trouble . but facts are if he doesn't win league or anything this season he will go down as one of the worst ever. Praying not obviously. But unless we sign and 2 or 3 quality players that can slot into 1st 11 then we won't have enough to stip celtic.



12 Jul 2020 17:47:14
When the time comes for Gerard to leave I believe that Beale will go with him. For me, Rino Gatusso would be the man to replace him and there is every chance that this could happen.



12 Jul 2020 17:59:06
Berkshire agree re Beale.
Do u think we could afford Gatusso, depends on timing donā€™t write off Defoe.



12 Jul 2020 19:52:50
John 25, we have family friends in Carmunock. They knew Gatusso as his wife's parents lived beside them. His wife would like to return to Scotland and last time we spoke with them they said that Gatusso was serious that he wanted to return to Scotland and would love to come back to Rangers.



12 Jul 2020 21:57:14
I get that Berkshire but heā€™s on allegedly two million in Italy.



13 Jul 2020 09:35:11
Aye because Aston Villa with Terry in the background are rock solid at the back and ripping up the EPL this season!



13 Jul 2020 09:39:10
We all have and are perfectly entitled to our opinions on steven gerrard's reign so far, as rangers manager. But what i just can't understand guys, is some on here who don't think we've improved under gerrard, because in my eyes we have improved and improved a lot under gerrard and we're getting there, but i know we're ALL wanting it yesterday, if you like.

For any of our supporters who don't think we've improved a lot under gerrard, think to pedro caixinha and surely you must see massive improvement since then! The full club from top to bottom has been overhauled and all for the very best and our future, i believe looks very good! We've got very professional/ very good coaches all the way through our academy now.

This all takes time fellow bears and will be fruitful, given time which some of us just don't want to give. I know having been going to watch rangers everywhere, for nigh on 43 years now, that the expectations of our fantastic football institution,
was structured in ALWAYS winning things and 2nd place was as well as being last, for glasgow rangers football club! Having said that and looking at the devastation of our club and where we've been and how low we were, i do honestly think we have to be a wee bit more patient as we will get there and get there under steven gerrard! šŸ‘šŸ‘Œ

We will be the dominant club again under gerrard, i don't have any doubt about that. Its coming fellow bears, so let's get right behind gerrard and the management team and our players and put a hault to the ANTHILL MOB's dominance. We've proved under gerrard, we're more than a match for themšŸ‘Œ! Consistency agsinst the smaller teams and dealing with the deep block of these teams and we're sorted and i wholeheartedly believe that! šŸ‘šŸ‘Œ.



12 Jul 2020 11:13:39
See broxi won at 33/ 1 the other day .
Always knew that bear had a bit of speed in him šŸ‘.



12 Jul 2020 08:58:38
Looks like Jason weir going to Brighton for 600 k plus add ons. On sky
Someone suggested him for us last week, will watch progress with interest.
Seems rated south of the border.



12 Jul 2020 11:17:18
I mentioned him last week and got shot down in flames. However, we need battle-hardened players for this tough season ahead. I would like to see a couple of blue chip signings.



12 Jul 2020 11:46:56
I remember your post and replied to it, did not shoot u down but stated he had not yet played a first team game at Wigan. He has played a total of 4 under 23 games
U r right we need first team ready players.
Easy for epl to gamble half a million on a boy b.



12 Jul 2020 12:23:25
Too many of our gambles in the past have not paid off. We have ended up paying players to leave, including some that we signed on FREE TRANSFERS!



12 Jul 2020 14:56:52
U r right Gus. Thatā€™s why I was glad to see we made a profit of 350 k on Polster.
Makes a change.



12 Jul 2020 04:56:09
Fransergio 29 midfielder Braga transfermark value 4M Rangers should have a look at him when he was at ibrox I was very impressed every time they got in behind us it was him at the centre of it very slick passer and has vision and ability he reminded of pirlo type player another who was impressive was trincao the winger but fransergio is a player certainly has ability not sure if a move is possible.



12 Jul 2020 10:41:11
One big problem, braga pay more than rangers.



12 Jul 2020 11:01:17
Think trincao was on loan from Barcelona mate.



12 Jul 2020 11:51:19
Fransergio is a very good player. Believe valued about 3 million on transfer market
TrincĆ£o mb out with our budget as he has a 500;million release clause at Barcelona who paid 31 million for him then lent him back to braga.



12 Jul 2020 18:25:46
Dont think fransergio would cut it here. Eouldnt get the time on the ball in scotland, when we got in his face 2nd half he fell to bits, like the rest of them. We made them look better than they were that first half, far too much respect.



13 Jul 2020 09:31:05
I mean he's a good player, i wouldn't pay that kind of money on a 29 yo but no good business returns.



 
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