Rangers Banter Archive January 12 2015

 

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12 Jan 2015 19:42:28
I have listened to sarvers interview and if he's to be believed he seems to have big plans for putting s back where we belong.
He was talking about employing new management and coaching team.
But wasn't even able to get the board to engage with him.
The current board have onde again shown they only have their own Interests at heart they are running a failing business and openly admit to having no money to survive but for some reason they all want to cling on I can only think of one reason for this GREED

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12 Jan 2015 20:11:24
That board would only have been wasting the mans time by granting him an audience with them,because Park,King etc would not have gone for his deal anyway.They are,I believe deliberately using stalling tactics however,to what end I don't know.My knowledge of these matters is limited,but I suspect they are time wasting so that Ashley has to "bail them out" at the last minute.

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CD62, Unfortunately the board are controlled by Ashley and some 'mystery' men.

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Dumb and dumber control 26 per cent and Ashley 9 per cent so the 75 percent agreement was a non starter. Unless king and Co stand up to be counted very soon then I think Ashley will come in with another loan secured on the stadium or Murray park. We are definetly nowhere near or getting rid of this shower. If there's any sort of protest planned for friday d it should be in support of sarver, he spoke well of his plans for rangers and could work well with king and Co.

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I think if rangers football club owned ibrox and mp then he would have already secured them, a lot more still to come out

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12 Jan 2015 18:57:34
I was under the impression that company directors had to act responsibility and must not trade if they know they are heading for insolvency? Having not accepted any financial package on offer so far, the greedy, horrible incumbent directors continue to trade knowing that money will run out. How and why are they getting away with this? I'm sick to death of these spivs and those before them (Green, Whyte to name but two) extracting as much out of Rangers as they can for personal gain. If Rangers end up being tipped into admin 2 then these directors MUST be prosecuted and struck off. Won't help our club though. The time is now Mr King and co.

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Doiger, My bet is that Ashley has an offer on the table to cover any debts and what we have just now are stalling tactics to delay an egm.
Ashley will not walk away, especially when King is involved, so maybe Park's consortium should talk to Ashley's men on the board and see if there is any common ground.
Otherwise, we are in for a real roller-coaster ride.

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There is offers on the table so l canny see hoo we could ga back lnta admin
These people that are running rangers are hiding something major.

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12 Jan 2015 20:22:43
DOIGER:I thought the same mate,surely there is something like a financial ombudsman to ensure companies are ran in the shareholders best intrests?Not my field of expertise,but it seems like common sense to me.

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Doiger rangers are nowhere near insolvent to be insolvent u need to owe mor than the companys worth this includes property future sponsorship revenues due from merchandising etc it s my bet they owe ashley whatever it is I months paye 60 days debtors and not a lot more they don't have any bank debtashley is only secured creditor easdale has had his money back the problem they have is cash flow to last till season end that's what the £6.5 million is for its not to pay its to keep paying the debt as it falls due along with wages the position at the minute is not critical with what they owe its the debts they will encur from here in to season end that's the problem they have but the one thing they don't owe is debt to any bank which means the debts they have they can structure pay ments to the biggest problem will be keeping paying h mrc because they won't be given time to pay with them

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12 Jan 2015 18:49:25
I think if the stalemate continues then the fans will have little choice but to continue to boycott the club until change is forced, "a fish called somers" the "twins" and cashley and his henchmen MUST be removed, there can be NO weakness shown and no compromise allowed with any of the above rats and SPIVS!

If the board continue to STALL proceedings in the hope cashley will save us then we really are doomed, T3B and king MUST without further delay call an EGM with the stipulation that all this current board must be replaced immediately.

Your thought on where we go now

RR

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I know some Sceptic fans boycot Cashleys stores. It's about time we became more active in this area too.

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12 Jan 2015 20:05:31
This bill that's to be paid. if were short of money. what's the chance they do the same again. or worse. if its cleared just to run it up again

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12 Jan 2015 18:38:59
Mr Sarver has walked, no doubt sickened by the sheer incompetence of this shsyter board.

Now only history will tell if the Sarver deal was real or a smoke screen? But I think with the endorsement of Davy Robertson I would give him the benefit of the doubt and it's a pity he has walked away. Now where does this leave the current situation? It would appear the "twins" are the stumbling block why? Greed. T3B and king hold the upper hand and I think cashley is trying to tie anything else he can extract fom the club down watertight.

Can any of our esteemed posters RF, steer spike etc, she'd some light on the recent list of shareholders over 1% and does this include ALL shareholders? How does sleasdale hold a large proxy? When laxley sold there shares? Who's percentage does he hold over and above his own? Can anybody clear this up?

Can Chico still hold share in the club? My understanding is he still has his penny shares, unless somebody can enlighten us less knowledgable.


Your thoughts and input is needed to share amongst the "people"


RR

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12 Jan 2015 19:58:33
The way I see it with sarver he would've needed 75% of shareholders to accept his offer even if the board would've had talks with him so with the 3 bears and D. king just getting into a good position with there shareholding 35% it was highly unlikely they would sell thus making sarver bid irrelevant, I'm sure the bears & king are just making sure the have & certain they have enough backing from other shareholders b4 calling egm.
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12 Jan 2015 17:43:14
Just watched savers interview on ssn, seems a genuine guy and willing to divulge key details of the deal including a clause restricting rangers from selling McLeod. What puzzles me is that he made an offer to purchase majority of shares yet was unable to get anyone from rangers to enter into a conversation. Why?
If when the 3 bears / king gain control I hope they invite him to the table.
Need an AGM ASAP, remove the board and if need be negotiate a better deal with Ashley for merchandising
Let's get our club back on track.

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We will never no the real story behind sarver, to be honest the whole thing is becoming to diluted by to many different storys and bids, we should all stand behind the 3 bears and king and hopefully an agm is called asap

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Saver was a ploy by ashley there was no chance of the offer suceeding from the start it needs 75% of shareholders to agree that is a fact which was a fact before he made firstv offer neither offers had a snowballs chance in hell in suceeding and the yank and everyone knew that it was only a ploy to try and stop shareholders selling to the three bears and ing thinking there was a pot of gold in the wings the boardsaid the first offer was not enough and the second could not be purified that was the case with both offers as I say only a ploy to stop shares being sold to thev three bears fortunetly it did not work

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Good call Gers09

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12 Jan 2015 16:48:07
What happened to the announcement by the Board last week that they needed £6. 5M by Monday or else? More lies, threats made by this poor excuse of a board.

I believe they will do whatever is necessary and possible to stall until Ashley meets with SFA later this month, again this action is not in the best interest of our club right now.

The sooner the 3 bears and King get control and get the Easedales, Somers and Ashley as far away from our club as possible the better for us all.

Hopefully this will all end soon however I can still see it dragging on and on for a while yet.

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Listening to Mr Sarver on Sky. Lost opertunity

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Was never going to happen. The timing of King/ three bears intervention is telling. I reckon it was just a ruse for the big hitters to make a few quid.

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12 Jan 2015 15:36:27
Didn't see Saturday's game but saw the team sheet. McDowall is just picking the same team as McCoist before him. Why does Foster continue to play? Simonsen is a terrible goalkeeper. Don't we have a decent reserve keeper until Bell returns? I'm concerned about Friday night. I just can't see where the goals are going to come from to beat Hearts and confidence must be low. Why not play Moshni at centre forward for a laugh alongside Miller and Clark and swamp the middle of the park with Law, Templeton, Hutton and McCulloch. Lose this one and the title is definitely gone.

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To be fair mate he dropped black for the last couple of games and if Miller and others had taking there chances then the score would have been much greater. The sure did miss a couple of sitters. As for foster I'm not a big fan of his but he has improved a bit last coue of games.

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12 Jan 2015 15:25:40
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Is it ever a good idea to give a playing legend the reigns as manager?

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Ed I think the new pole could have been made simpler if you asked us to name a football playing legend that has been a good manager. sir alex ferguson average player great manager, Diego maradona legend, terrible manager, so I think most good managers were average player, the two I have mentioned were the first 2 instances I thought of when reading your post.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not a poll mate, it is an article on our news and views site. They just automatically post as me, whether it is me that wrote them or not. Putting them with my name attached was just the easiest way to make sure people realised it is not an outside advert.}

Ed I get it now, so they are name droppers eh lol, only kiddin, I see bmcm is more or less posting Ashley has threw the towel in, but I bet he never expected his comments section to be so against the board, I would have thought they would be calling the three bears every name under the sun, but no not at all have a look ed.

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{Ed001's Note - they needed star power to sell the articles, so obviously that meant me! ;)
The board have really caused most of the problems, no surprise the fans have turned on them.}

12 Jan 2015 13:47:49
The three bears seem to have it all worked out if I'm honest, three wealthy fans with a vision which will realistically happen in the next few weeks

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Leeboy12 I don't think you have to mention honesty, as the three bears are one of the only options we have, and the best option in most supporters eyes.

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12 Jan 2015 09:24:02
Does Nicky law escape critisicm because he pops up with the odd goal?

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Well, 10 anyway. Maybe. A Rangers player not being criticised by Rangers fans by the dictionary definition is called a Celtic player. The only exception in all my years of the terraces or the stands was Sandy Jardine.

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12 Jan 2015 08:33:06
Well fellow bears going with the information to hand. board offering 1 seat to the bears. think this is designed to ne knocked back by 3 bears, so ashley loan accepted. I would expect dave king to call egm from today and mabye a statement from bears. sarver mabye step back now an let us deal with sorting this board out.

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12 Jan 2015 12:39:11
As you said laudrup22 sarver has stepped back but has said if Rangers need his help in the future they only have to call.
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R. f. let's hope this makes things clearer. less distraction if u like. that's good as a saftey net with sarver. king. make your move.

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12 Jan 2015 13:07:17
this board can not be trusted to deal with and be giving more time to organize everyone wasting there time talking to them the Paul Murray ect payed the price for giving them time before to organize

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12 Jan 2015 13:27:17
If Dave King or the 3 bears called for E. G. M today say, how long would it be b4 it took place? Bearing in mind time is running out.
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12 Jan 2015 13:48:45
Server I think would have been good for RFC. Let's not discount his future involvement. The three bears plus Mr King look our best hope and I really mean hope. At present Ashley has definitely got an alteriar motive to own Rangers and the Twins are only interested in wearing the blazer. I don't have an answer but this is bound to drag on as the later two have massive egos.a

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12 Jan 2015 14:08:02
If Dave King or the 3 bears called for E. G. M today say, how long would it be b4 it took place? Bearing in mind time is running out.
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12 Jan 2015 14:40:18
folk are saying it will take 6 weeks if this board had done there job in the first place time wouldn't be running out
loans are never the answer just more debt that they can not afford to pay back

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Ocrsc. I think Ashley is trying to prolong things until the 27 as that's when he has to tell the s. f. a. his plan as he will call it, scheme is what I call it, I hope dave king calls for an e. g. m. In the next couple of days, maybe Friday is the wrong day to call for complete boycott, but is any game the wrong game to call for a boycott, not in my eyes it's not. get these parasites out now.

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If they force an EGM, what's to stop the board from sending the company into administration before the EGM is held?

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12 Jan 2015 19:01:20
would the board be able to put the club in admin when there is alternative funding available a been hearing for a while now that Ashley plan was always to run the club down to the bare bones so that when he sold Newcastle he could purchase the club for a rock down price and with what is going on everything adds up but the 3 bears and king have now throwing a spanner in the works buy purchasing these shares

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Rf I seen people saying 6pr7weeks buy I've also read gem can happen in4weeks, I don't think the board can put us in admin when there are people waiting to invest, if they could have done it do you think dave king and the there bears would have bought shares, no chance, the board are stalling like feck because they know there bubble is burst, ha ha twos up eh.

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12 Jan 2015 01:26:38
There has been a lot of players that have come out of Murry park some have gone on to play a high standard we have not made much money from many players. Have we ever really set up a scouting network since Murry park opened, there has not been young players coming through from abroad to play for a big club in Europe with excellent training facility's but has not happened.

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12 Jan 2015 01:17:37
I think the reason for our bad form is because we don't have a hungry team. We have a team that have made money and have no interest in playing alloa away. Our team should of been made up of hungry young players that what to make a name in the game. We have won the last two seasons by crazy points, players like mclead gasporotto telfer hemmings McKay would all have 50 games under there belt and a couple of clever sightings we would of won both leagues and would be in a great position right now.

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Damon with the exception of telfer the players you mentioned should all be called back from there loans, and giving a place in the team every week in prep for the celtic game, as they are hungry young guys looking for success, and let's be honest would they do any worst than the pensioners currently in the team.

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