Rangers Banter Archive April 12 2020
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12 Apr 2020 23:01:25
Here's something I don't understand lads. How can a club get punished for criticising a referee but the SPFL/ SFA have been accused of corruption and have done nothing?
12 Apr 2020 23:48:17
C of Ibrox, the clue is in your post - "accused". There not guilty.
13 Apr 2020 01:48:16
Maybe because there is no corruption.
13 Apr 2020 08:30:05
The point is that if Gerrard accused a ref of incompetence then he would be fined and censured even with the TV proving him correct. We are accusing the governing body of corruption and nothing.
13 Apr 2020 09:53:54
No corruption? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
13 Apr 2020 10:25:10
the seeker suit stuck, one track brain corruption, the three of you can't see in front of your noses or your impartiality.
13 Apr 2020 10:58:54
Here’s something else I don’t understand lads, how can a club break registration rules for almost every player over an 11 year period because they refused to declare extra payments on their players salaries, get it keep 5 titles and 10 cups won over this period. That’s 15 tainted domestic honours which surely must be scrapped from the history books on the grounds of maintaining sporting integrity?
13 Apr 2020 11:14:41
No corruption lol that's a belter!
13 Apr 2020 11:35:13
Surely you can't have based your corruption claims on Dundee lying to Partick and ICT?
13 Apr 2020 12:31:38
old buzzbomb must be on the old laptop 24 hours a day, i think with his info on the gers financial side and past history he must get the mhank troll of the year award.
13 Apr 2020 13:22:15
No, Suit, it's based on the SPFL lying and bullying the smaller clubs into accepting the proposal with false claims it was the only way they would get this season's prize money.
There was another option - they could apply for interest free loans from the SPFL based on their current league positions. This wasn't put to the smaller clubs.
The real reason the proposal was being pushed through was to hand Celtic an unearned tainted title. 👍.
13 Apr 2020 14:13:40
Buzz, i see the police are getting involved with this voting carry on, do you think big pete will be spoken to. also what's your take on adidas, can't pay there debt to man utd, are they your clubs new kit sponsor?
13 Apr 2020 14:24:23
simple Buzz Bomb. the tax tribunal and the judge only allowed proceedings to advance on the directors payments only! the inland rev had to go to court to get a ruling to bring everything back in. rangers did nothing wrong. followed revenue rules. which is challengeable believe it or not. I do, cause I worked in that office.
13 Apr 2020 18:39:12
That ruling only changed recently because it wasn’t that long ago they were chasing the players to pay the loans back, that is why Barry Ferguson went into bankruptcy.
Years after the players retired. It doesn’t take away from the fact that Rangers would not have been able to afford the players they signed. Klos had the biggest salary of any goalkeeper in Europe and he played in Scotland.
The fact was Sir David Murray refused to downsize when Celtic started spending big money for the first time when Martin O’Neill came. To say Rangers done nothing wrong is also plain wrong.
It took Rangers several years to start highlighting the extra payments in their annual accounts. If they were doing nothing wrong then why were they hiding the extra payments. The 15 tainted honours should be stripped.
14 Apr 2020 08:15:32
Buzz bomb, don't you tell me rangers have tainted titles that should be stripped from us, there are clubs that won tittles under far worst condition than ours, fact. do you think they should also be stripped of titles, at least we can say we done it for money, eh.
12 Apr 2020 22:37:25
Did anyone by any chance get a read of East fifes statement rejecting the terms set out by the spfl. They said they couldn't agree to it as they wouldn't like to see teams relegated before the 36 games were played.
13 Apr 2020 10:55:44
Sangil80, yea mate, seen it, its now online,
13 Apr 2020 11:18:54
yes and also liked where he said the money from the spfl is abysmal for lower leagues, so makes you wonder why the majority of them voted yes, coercion and bullying must have been rife.
13 Apr 2020 14:14:41
Truebluesotrue, it was a case of vote if you want money, now the police are talking about getting involved, i wonder where it will end?
13 Apr 2020 14:44:53
paulellen best place for this debacle is the courts, i don't see any good outcome, doncaster, lawell, mclelland, these guys are so slippery they could slither under a snake with a top hat on.
14 Apr 2020 08:16:41
Truebluesotrue, yip, i'd love to see them in a courtroom mate, but there are too many of them involved and anything they've got everything sewn up, just now, i hope our club have enough to see them in courts mate, good drink that weekend, lol.
12 Apr 2020 20:38:52
Happy Easter Fellow bears.
Just read through At 20 January 2020
The Rules and Regulations of the Scottish Professional Football League ( I know sad me ) and for the life of me can't see anything about voting to end a season and award League to every team who is top.
Can any one point me in the right direction. Also can't wait to hear what SPFL have to say about their bullying sorry ( clubs wanting to review their decisions) .
Also if not all clubs voted on Friday before the agreed time then that should be the end of the matter and league null and void.
12 Apr 2020 22:48:51
Although there was a supposedly 5pm deadline, rules actually state clubs have 28 days to reply.
The reason there was a rush to push to vote through was to suit one club only - Celtic. All because rumours were starting to circulate that UEFA were changing their preference from completing the season to null and void. Therefore denying Celtic an unearned tainted title. 👍.
13 Apr 2020 09:59:08
That's definitely what it is Mr Tup. If the decision was made before UEFA waded in it couldn't possibly be changed. They have made a right pig's ear of it as usual and have to pay the price. We can't let this go, assume the position and go all wishy washy this time. This is war and it's time for real change in our game. This has gone on for too long now with one team calling the shots on everything.
13 Apr 2020 14:15:46
Seeker, yes, i agree mate, time to get shot of them all, time to get an s.f.a. that don't favour one club, and one club only,
12 Apr 2020 19:37:44
The SPFL bullied and coerced the club's into accepting the proposal put forward as it would release the much needed prize money for the smaller clubs.
Apparently it turns out they could apply for Tax free loans that none of them knew about?
12 Apr 2020 23:09:27
Rangers wanted the money paid out now so that teams were voting to end the league based on what they really thought and not how desperate they were for money. How anybody can say that wasn't the fairest way is beyond me. They were hoping teams were that desperate for money they would vote in favour. Better luck next time Peter!
13 Apr 2020 10:06:54
I don’t think the Spfl would be interested in Sevco shares in return for the loan.
13 Apr 2020 10:29:22
poor old buzz never heard of interest free, oh how the corruption must be hurting you now, you know when your riled you revert back to the old sevco line.
13 Apr 2020 11:11:52
All clubs would know they can apply for loans off the spfl as apparently it’s in their rule book and codes of conduct? Maybe some clubs don’t want it to be known they need loans and would rather be given the cash as a prepayment from future prize money?
13 Apr 2020 11:12:55
Buzz, look at your own club's badge. Completely new club from the previous one, new name of club on your badge.
13 Apr 2020 12:38:12
big p where did you come up with that one, rangers proposed it so they must have known, there lucky their not applying for universal credit, don't give me the big remorse from clubs that say they won't go cap in hand because its beneath their dignity.
13 Apr 2020 13:27:40
Even club in Scotland is skint Big P! Even your own club had to beg Boris for the Tory Furlough! Your players have had to defer wages.
So it's an open secret. I don't think if the club's knew the loan option was available they would be shy in taking it!
13 Apr 2020 14:33:07
Buzz, looks like you and your club will need to wait until next year to see if they can equal our last nine in a row, what do you think of that wee man, me i'm loving it.
12 Apr 2020 18:55:18
A wee question lads, I like many others have placed a bet at the beginning of the season for Rangers to win the league, if the league is declared finished, when Rangers can mathematically still win then are we entitled to a refund from the bookies ?
12 Apr 2020 19:05:04
Doubt it, they would take that as final. Bookies love to find a way not to pay out.
12 Apr 2020 23:52:02
Herewego55, your absolutely correct, the punter of course will get done over again and the bookie wins, shocking!
13 Apr 2020 10:08:31
Well if football clubs can change their vote once its been submitted i think you should be able to get your money back from the bookie. Only in the SPFL you couldn't make it up.
13 Apr 2020 10:54:07
It's like a race to the finishing line, the race is not completed void bet money back.
13 Apr 2020 10:56:14
The stuck, i'd imagine if the season was finished without the games you would get at least your wager back mate.
12 Apr 2020 17:56:58
Hearts have made an interesting statement regarding the SPFL tonight!
12 Apr 2020 18:41:32
pretty much making the powers that be look incompetent liars.
12 Apr 2020 16:35:27
looking at mclellands letter to the 42 clubs i wonder what sweetner dundee were offered or in another blackmailed into having their vote not counted, seems strange since all they had to do was hold onto their vote as they were privy to the 28 day deadline, seems to me dundee are making themselves look corrupt, scunnered is too good a word to describe these people.
12 Apr 2020 18:29:04
Maybe the SPFL regretting inviting Dundee up in 2012 now.
12 Apr 2020 15:42:12
SPFL just issued a letter to all member clubs . I am flabbergasted. In that letter the chairman says two points that for me totally got against their previous stance and shoot themselves totally in the foot
1. He now says Dundee did infact submit a vote . only it came in at six and not five .
This totally contradicts what was previously said
2. He then states that immediately after that submission that they were contacted by Dundee to request that the vote was not taken into account?
This is absurd . does this mean that all member clubs can now contact the spfl and request that their vote is not to be deemed valid? Or are they saying that Dundee only have that privilege
What a utter shambles . MacLennan should walk now immediately as well.
12 Apr 2020 16:38:59
They are doing their appear all innocent by providing a cover story with no real new info and seem to be worried about what info Rangers hold and are trying to tease it out in a subtle way threatening or blaming Rangers. This is nothing new and what they did on Friday via an email to Rangers. The quiet from Rangers is working, the more the SPFL bump their gums we will know they have something to hide.
12 Apr 2020 16:40:55
Wheres Douglas park with his evidence. 🤣🤣.
12 Apr 2020 16:42:23
Bunch of corrupt wasters mate surely they can't get away with this.
12 Apr 2020 16:48:56
the powers have threatened and offered dundee something to change. that much is obvious, although can't be proved. we also know who pulls the strings. sure one of chairs said i will go and tell Peter. i mean, who is peter (well pretty sure i know) and what is it to do with him.
Anyway, its just the last straw for me. I feel dirty after what the sfa/ spfl have behaved along with their master.
12 Apr 2020 16:51:44
I did seem like a lot of havers and bullsh*t too be honest.
12 Apr 2020 17:33:55
Martin the evidence is there if you care to look for yourself . Dundee submit a vote but are allowed to change their mind? Can we all do that?
An independent inquiry ASAP is required with the guilty parties dealt with in the hardest fashion.
My own theory is it’s all to do with Adidas. not much chance of them continuing with this now .
Absolutely shocking at this time . I know there is corruption in Spain at the moment but this? This . wow.
12 Apr 2020 18:01:22
McLennan is reported to have said that we should come foward with the evidence or withdraw the accustions, in other words put up or shut up! If I were going to be the subject of the enquiry I would want to know what the evidence was before hand so that I could counter any complaint and get all the other accused stories to be the same. Hope the evidence is not past on before the enquiry begins and let them sweat as to what it is.
12 Apr 2020 19:04:10
Why should we submit evidence to them? I would say get the majority of the teams on board to back an independent enquire. do it as it says independently then bring these mothers down . and not before time . Michael Stewart is right for once . even if his remit is saving hearts . follow the trail . who benefits most . where is the big . bug money. I would hedge my bets that Adidas are banking on the massive PR that is ten in a row .
For me this is what makes more sense of it all and why some would go to such buzzare extremes . Unfortunately fir them they have been rumbled.
12 Apr 2020 19:14:25
Still McLennan didn't deny these allegations he asked rangers to prove it which sounds guilty to me.
12 Apr 2020 19:26:22
Martinbhoy, that's our problem, we have been too gullible for too long, i.m.h.o. , if youse have nowt to hide then youse have nowt to worry about, eh.
12 Apr 2020 15:28:58
Amid all the coronavirus crisis and the corrupt SPFL, sad to hear that Stirling Moss and that Chelsea great Peter Bonetti have both passed away. Not only that, but so that has Tim Brooke-Taylor, that legend who was one third of The Goodies. Puts things in perspective does it not? Happy Easter Bears!
12 Apr 2020 17:20:39
stirling moss, had the privilege to meet him in 1984 to give him a quote to decorate a large staircase in one of his properties in knightsbridge in london, he turned up in full leather regalia on a scooter very funny actually, he came in the door shook hands with me asked me my price i said £2600 pounds to which he replied too dear, turned around and walked straight out the door no cheerio or nothing, was not too happy at the time, but hey rest in peace, sorry to see him pass away.
12 Apr 2020 15:09:05
It's a very if we win by 6 tonight Sutton will say it was a fix and dunfermline lay down.
12 Apr 2020 15:46:05
No chance laudo. mr Sutton is an honourable man . he would never suggest anything like that . that’s as bad as saying he would infere that we are embarrassing for exposing a corrupt regime.
12 Apr 2020 14:33:05
no 9 in a row for me titles are earned and it was still mathematically possible to get #55 --the last 6 games can be game changers -helicopter sunday is proof of all that -as is the 6.0 gubbing of Dunfermline start afresh next season and no throwing toys out the pram--.
12 Apr 2020 15:31:36
Hi deecee hope your right but I have a punt on 6-1 with dumferline leveling to make it 1 each.
Just for rubbishs and giggles bro stay safe.
12 Apr 2020 19:21:56
Deecee, i'm not sure what all the news from yesterday will bring, now i'm led to believe that eufa are on the verge of declaring all leagues void, thus celtic trying to force thru results from yesterdays votes, know eufa were going to shut the leagues down, they were wanting there 9, known about eufa, this inquiry should get right to the bottom of all these bribes dished out by the tims, imo.
12 Apr 2020 13:49:13
Afternoon Folks, this stinking fiasco is worrying, I see that Rangers are not going to hand over any evidence until we get agreement to an Independent Inquiry, that's like the PF sending a case to trial without the evidence to support it. In my opinion it does no harm to pass a copy of all the evidence we hold to allow this to happen, either way, I bet we'll be the bad guys in all of this, as the silence from Dundee indicates that something underhand is being discussed, they'll all apart from ICT, Hearts and ourselves support a change on mind by Dundee as being in the best interests of all Clubs, just like they couldn't get rid of us quick enough for a so called breach of what was a legally allowed EBT Scheme during it's use. Let's get this fixed one way or the other quickly, as, from what I've seen and read, there is no doubt that underhand tactics are being applied.
12 Apr 2020 15:30:41
Underhand tactics have been applied for years now I just hope that this is the straw that brakes the camels back. Peter Liewell has had far to big a say at the sfa for far to long going back to 2008 and the fact ND called him at 17.05 the day of the vote is alarming, if they go ahead with this inquiry I just hope they don’t stop with just this vote and look beyond it at the influence he’s had because I don’t think it’s a level playing field.
12 Apr 2020 19:00:13
Irvger, its like a game of poker mate, let them guess, though i'd imagine we have enough to hang them high, show them nowt until they call your bluff, then let them see we ain't bluffing.
12 Apr 2020 19:05:30
It's looking like uefa might be having second thoughts, that'll put the cat amongst the pigeons.
12 Apr 2020 19:22:22
Highlandbear81, hear, hear mate, irvger, i'm a card player mate, biggest part of game is having the winning hand, but if i want to win i don't give nowt away, until i'm called, then i show them the winning hand, much what we are about to do if this enquiry goes ahead, and it should go ahead, no way out of it, let's get it started.
12 Apr 2020 11:54:18
well in my opinion the whole vote has been compromised and is null and void, looking at the alleged voting slips it shows get your vote in by 5pm if possible, which suggests that all clubs knew about the 28day period for discussion, if correct dundee have been very sly and cynical with other clubs and colluding with the spfl to try and get leverage for themselves, some heads have to roll here and is going to get a lot dirtier, how can you withold your vote to be offered an inducement in a demoratic vote be legal i have never heard such nonsense in my life.
12 Apr 2020 12:23:09
Regardless of your views on the resolution the handling of the process has been at best, irresponsible, and at worst utterly Machiavellian.
12 Apr 2020 13:07:22
apparently its Friday 5pm to get your vote in and 28 days allowed for cfc to ask clubs to review their no vote. corruptly seeking 8.6 now in real review under the current circumstances its 3.6.
12 Apr 2020 19:23:50
Truebluesotrue, reading between the lines, celtic new eufa were about to call all footie null and void, the s.f.a. kNew this, but tried to get celtic a ninth titles, known what eufa were about to close leagues, this is corruption in the highest order. get them out.
12 Apr 2020 11:50:29
Away from all this nonsense
I think tonight’s game with Dunfermline is absolutely massive . It could be one of the biggest in our history . If we beat them by more than what the smellies do kille the league is ours . Personally I have betted that we score six . a long shot but you never know
Come on the Gers.
12 Apr 2020 12:03:52
I agree mols we need to score big because our defense are always likely to ship one! i'm also worried about the killie team as they have an ex tim legend in goals, what's the chance he gives them a penalty or two?
12 Apr 2020 13:20:44
Fancy a draw.
12 Apr 2020 13:51:31
Got a bet on Sutton to spit out the dummy. 😂😂😂.
12 Apr 2020 19:02:33
I've got a heavy wager on big chrissiebhoy missing a penalty, never a winning line.
12 Apr 2020 22:38:19
Oooops, as the suit would say i made up for it by predicting the 6 one scoreline, lol.
12 Apr 2020 11:43:43
Alright lads, can anyone explain what has acctully happend regarding the vote? . I have looked and can't seem to find any info regarding what has said too have happend.
12 Apr 2020 12:12:54
celticob - seriously - you must be looking at your celtic view.
12 Apr 2020 13:22:43
Ask peter lawell he's the guy calling the shots
Utter disgrace only in scotland.
12 Apr 2020 13:29:09
Where have you looked eob? Its everywhere.
12 Apr 2020 13:50:44
Can't find evidence lmao are you serious like. Ask your club for the evidence that they have been given by the lawyers then come back here with another smart comment!
12 Apr 2020 13:57:17
Celticeob, the corruption is starting to smell in the glasgow streets, can't you smell it? , when doncaster and other spfl men got there cushy jobs it was big peter that got them there jobs, i wonder if he will drop them at the employment offices on shetleston road. he could be going down that way to sign on himself, its maybe took us 10 yearish to get them out, but they are going, that's the main thing eh.
12 Apr 2020 15:27:57
All i smell is paranoia.
12 Apr 2020 19:03:14
Celticeob, how doncaster managed to get the job lawwell knows, after all he gave him the job, a failed cricket umpire lol handed the biggest job in scottish football, how was that allowed to happen?
12 Apr 2020 19:24:26
Col, because youse ain't getting 9 this season, plus if we get a proper enquiry i see lewell and his coupe all getting an indictment for corruption of the highest order, cheating its normally called, but no doubt sporting integrity will rear its ugly head again. cheaters mate, that's all your club are, 63 times 3, remember those numbers, will you.
12 Apr 2020 21:50:15
Paulellen Doncaster wasn’t a failed cricket umpire he has never been involved in the sport. Are you desperate for Lawwell and Celtic to fail if you are going to write something get you facts right. Oh by the way it was Stewart Regan that was the failed cricket umpire.
12 Apr 2020 22:41:52
what Regan done, he took orders, like the rest, fact.
12 Apr 2020 10:55:28
Bears don't know if this is tenuous or not. I used to work for one of the a largest global financial institutions because of that it was the law that each individual had to complete annual exams as part of being regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority FCA. Some of the subjects in the modules were corporate governance, bullying, bribery and corruption. I don't think the SPFL are under the FCA but Celtic are. If they are part of this the FCA has wide ranging powers and IF they were shown to have brought the game in to disrepute what punishment could be dished out by the footballing authorities - how about taking off 14 points and then calling the calling the league. LOL.
12 Apr 2020 11:03:40
Karma!
12 Apr 2020 11:34:48
Brilliant TJ.
12 Apr 2020 13:58:19
Tjbb, corruption of the highest order have been shown in our league, corruption mean bottom league, imo.
12 Apr 2020 09:23:58
Petition for Neil Doncaster to resign
12 Apr 2020 09:47:36
Signed.
12 Apr 2020 10:15:16
Save your breaths only people who can remove any office bearers are the Directors of each club that's a true fact and in the rules.
12 Apr 2020 10:21:42
Ditto.
12 Apr 2020 10:50:31
Signed . petitions hold weight whatever BBB
I signed right away regardless.
12 Apr 2020 10:58:47
Make a big enough noise and people will start to listen. Hasn't our club been taking second prizes for long enough? I hope we now have the men that will go after each and every one of them!
12 Apr 2020 11:08:32
Heck I would sign someone stookie if it was against Doncaster.
12 Apr 2020 12:03:06
he will go when its proved he phoned the godfather big peter to tell him who the dirty club was that was holding out with a no or a yes vote if they can get an inducement, only in the spfl can corruption like this happen, secret votes being disclosed before final result, like playing a game of bingo waiting for your number to come up.
12 Apr 2020 12:12:57
Brilliant again TJBB👍 Edinburgh fringe fir you (when it’s on )
12 Apr 2020 13:46:05
Signed - We have got to do our bit however small it is.