Rangers Banter Archive October 11 2013

11 Oct 2013 20:26:48
Norrie Martin died earlier today
one of the first & best keepers I ever saw in
the number 1 jersey R. I. P big man
billy h

11 Oct 2013 23:58:44
RIP and condolences to his family

Rip Norrie Martin
From all the rangers family

Concur. rip big Norrie. was a teen when he stood between the stix. deecee

Thoughts and prayers with his family. Remember him from my 'plooky youth' days of following the hoops.
RIP big man. TinyTim

Thought's and prayer's are with his family at this sad time
Tam

Always remember the song I sang, we've got norrie martin no 1 we got the best team in the land and then right through to whoever was outside left doug t. s. o

I worked for Big Norrie at the Towans Hotel in Ayr. A real gentleman and good friend

Ozzie Al

11 Oct 2013 18:41:37
Anyone else think the Dave King talk is to deflect away from the Upcoming AGM. Then boom it's all done with & were stuck with Mather telling us oh "we tried to get DK but he wasn't interested" Same old smoke & mirrors?
We already know he won't sit on the board with this lot so what actual chance have we got? Not getting my hopes up with investors ever again.

Larky Bear

Larky the only one that can answer that is dave himself. understand were your comin from as it wouldn't be the first time the smoke and mirrors had been produced

If king wasnt interested he would come out and say. he's rangers through and through and wouldn't want to mislead his fellow loyal supporters.

Gaz.

In reply to gaz has he said he is interested or is it media or smoke and mirrors. ie rangers rep flying to SA then Dubai but nothing will come of it. only dave can answer that

Two problems with King taking up a board appointment

I can't see a self made man worth over 300m giving a 10% chunk of his wealth to sit along side Mather and Stockbridge as a partner - allowing them to control the direction the money is spent

The judges accusation of being "wholly unreliable" "a glib liar" " his statements not to be believed without other evidence" and a few more belters.

The 18m declared as income from Rangers in the same year he invested his 20m (as declared to the SARS during his court case and is an official record of the court) has not been explained

We now have the gangsters, the dodgy finance folk, the spivs, the money grabbing "legends", convicted VAT fraudsters
King will fit right in - guaranteed a warm welcome.

"Mr King said: "I regard the sum agreed as being very acceptable. It has no impact on my ability to invest in Rangers. In fact, the opposite is true.

"It means that there are now no restrictions on me whatsoever - plus the 'fit and proper' issue disappears as all fraud allegations were finally withdrawn by the state. "

That was Just over a month ago, and now reps are meeting with him. So hopefully it going to happen.

Gaz.

Larky - what do you think is going to happen at the AGM, there are already resolutions put forward which will be put to the vote, basically those are to re-elect the existing board and to allow them to sell 6. 6M shares which are currently not in public hands,

Also the court will decide on monday if McColl's group can have their resolutions included but there appears to be doubt if they have enogh shares between them for this to happen

the notice of AGM letter, that all shareholders have already received, is available to anyone on the club website, take a look at that rather than reading all the p@sh that's in the papers

JG

11 Oct 2013 10:32:34
Would like to hear what rest of bears think of Nacho's statement in sun today!
It appears that McCoist strung the wee guy along for ages on (never never promises). tbh this leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
This wee guy (whilst not being the greatest player in the world) would bust a gut for our club.
what does McCoist do - He signs a Has-Been in Daly!
Before anyone says sour grapes from the wee guy, well I know from a good friend of his THAT INDEED A CONTRACT WAS PROMISED!

WONDER WHAT ELSE 'SUPER SALLY' LIES ABOUT?

Would've loved the wee man back.
But to say daly is a has been c'mon
he's scoring goals and is a few years
Younger also to all the people who
insist on having a go at ally I would
ask you to read the sandy jardine
interview in todays paper
billy h

Yes it is disappointing for Nacho (great me player for us) but Ally has form now in leading people on. The truth is less important than what is best for Ally.
Disagree about John Daly though and think he will prove to be a very decent player for us.

11 Oct 2013 13:59:02
OP are you for real, Daly before Novo all day long and Ally McCoist has done more for Rangers than most. His goalscoring record and his loyalty not to walk away when he was left alone to deal with administration/liquidation is admirable. He has been doing the job up until the the transfer embargo was lifted with 1 hand tied behind his back. His team are playing well, tight at the back and scoring some great goals. He has only built the squad and spent would the BOARD have allowed him to. Away and give yourself a shake.

OP Novo was never promised a contract, like Weiss McCoist doesn't rate or even like Novo. Novo was told when he first started whoring himself to us that he would never play for Rangers again and he should find another club. Everytime there was talk of Novo coming home McCoist dug his heels in that he didn't want the wee man involved with the club while he was there. I don't know who told you that but my version came from John Grieg and Sandy Jardine at a cancer charity night they were both at along with Bertie Auld and another old Celtic player who I didn't know called Chambers I think it was. That's why I was surprised about the tour guide job, Greig was adamant that night there was no chance of a Nacho returning. It was obvious it was more than footballing reasons but I have no idea what it could be, Novo could play for us even in the SPL when we get there he is that good.

Daly before Novo but both are different types of Strikers.
Rangers have also Clark who is similar to Novo but he is unable to get into Allys starting eleven.
Daly adds a new dimension to the Rangers attack and McCoist did well in bringing him. to Ibrox.
Novo gave the Rangers Fans some great memories but its time to look forward.

Great signing for morton though he should get plenty of goals for them not to fussed that mccoist didn't sign him he's too old. anyway who needs strikers when we've got mohsni :)

Im glad the wee man is not resigning he will be great for Morton op says he would bust a gut for Rangers but so would Greig ; Jardine or most of the other players we have had but that is not a reason to go out and resign him as for Daly i'm overjoyed we have signed him he will bang in the goals and as for Ally get off his back we are doing just fine top of the league by eight points banging in goals and conceding few what more do we want well Dave King back and as chairman with a board that he can trust and fans to back the team to the hilt not moan at every chance

I have no trust in McCoist.

The sooner he is gone the better for the club.

It would be good to remember him as a great player and a loyal servant to the club?

But he will never cut it as manager!

11 Oct 2013 12:36:08
Billy a pal and I were talking about ally in work yesterday, now I have gone off him in recent months, but let me put something to you as your obviously still loyal to him,
Ally stated that he had never seen nor discussed his contract, he made a big thing of almost swearing to that, correct? Now this is were my suspicions of ally turned into amazement, Every major contract being signed for lots of cash and presumably plenty of add ons, ie, pension funds etc would be gone over with a fine tooth comb by A) the clubs lawyers, accountants etc,
B) The employee, and or signatorys lawyers, accountants etc, not to mention the man himself,
C) The board would presumably have to sign the contract off? Therefore they would all be aware of the contents, if not then the CEO would alone sign it off, Ally has told us how friendly he is with Mather and would gladly go for a pint with him, I assume he already has done, many times, particularly just before his contract was agreed, what do you think?
Ally McCoist should not have made such a stupid statement re, his contract, to suggest he never knew what it entailed in cash and pension etc is totally unbelievable unless you are gullible and follow whatever he says blindly, m which I don't think you are Billy, a year ago I supported Ally to the hilt and still think some of the hatred heaped on him here is sickening, but he imo lied to the fans the other day, and in doing so he treated us like halfwits, I would like your opinion also ED
Tommyblue {The Ed039's Note - Hard to argue with your points, financial stuff aside everyone knows my opinion, and my opinion is he is not a very good football manager)

Ally will take us to the top again withiut any problem if alex ferguson had been in allys shoes last season he would have struggled too

Ally mccoist should never have treated nacho novo the way he did, if he didn't want or rate wee novo he should have been man enough to tell him up front instead of stringing the wee man along, ally mccoist I've always said is jealous of anyone who's more popular than him with the rangers fans, it was the same with kris boyd, if kris boyd had stayed with rangers half the time mccoist did big boydy would have blown mccoist's rangers goalscoring record to smithereens

No 4 - might have been a minor player called "Chalmers". didn't do much for Celtic I think, did score a winning goal in a wee game in Lisbon though, I think in 1967.

Typical of McCoist done to Nacho what he's doing to us.

@4 I think you will find the name was CHALMERS who scored the winning goal in the european cup final, don't know much about football then.
Tambhoy

12 + 14. Sorry I didn't mean any offence I am only 22 and was going with the autograph "Chalmers" gave me. I knew Bertie Auld as he has been on TV and in the paper and I come from Hamilton as well where everyone knows who Auld is. Any way my point was about Greig and Jardine talking about Ally and Novo, sorry that as a Rangers fan I don't know the name of every ex celtic player. Just like you wouldn't be able to rhyme off the Rangers 1972 Cup winners cup team, so I obviously know about as much about football as you TamBhoy

#14 how does not knowing a goal scorer from 50yrs ago mean he has no knowledge of football? Do you know who scored the goals in every european cup final or do you also know nothing about football? Moron.

Gaz.

Daly or novo?
Work horse journeyman or heidless chicken?
Both murder, n would never get a game in decent rangers team.
To call novo a legend is a joke, he was a squad player (behind prso, jelavic, Naismith and a host of others) with a good work rate. But no ability, 2nd touch a tackle.
He was never getting a contract, also heard mccoist reckons novo spends to much time out drinking in Greenock/inverkip and his bird is the gaffer with a potty mouth that reckons she a beckhamesque wag because she goes with an ex squad player

@17 not really a post just an unjustified attack on a former player. Correct me if I am wrong but did this player with no ability not score the decisive penalty to get us into a euro final or score the winning goal at Hibs to win us the league or score a fantastic goal to win us the Scottish cup or score the only goal that got us through to the group stages of the champions league or score a few goals against Celtic both home and away? That's not bad for someone with no ability

@10 hard to believe Sir Alex would have struggled with the same resources Ally had last season, Ally's problem is his lack of technical ability and no plan B. Wouldn't even use Ally's name in the same breath as a true legend.

11 Oct 2013 01:40:03
I find it hard to digest at times, no not the , I'm talking about all you negative Rangers fans.

Given circumstances from day one, under the pressure and financial constraints, what dose Alley have to do to prove to you that he is a true rangers man through and through, has he not delivered everything promised so far, has he not taken a 50% pay cut, are we not sitting extremely pretty in division one, and all on a shoe string and consistent protesting and bickering. This supporters protests, all credit for the organizational skills and pulling the different supporter factions together, but for the wrong reasons. What dose the man need to do to be recognized, at the moment we need to reform and get behind Alley and King, not people who want to run our club with someone else's money, King will bank roll Rangers back to the top, and not for the first time will he invest big money, come on guys get a grip.

And answer me this what Dose Alley require to do to prove himself on the Manager of the month deal. Sporting integrity, what a load of b*******, our club will be great again, sooner rather than later, and we only have ourselves to thank, because we are still repeatedly getting the boot put in, even on our own front door step, by so called concerned fans.

In my book if you want to wield the big stick, then its really very simple, put up or shut up!

What dose Ally? I'd say 500mls Sodium Pentathol and maybe get the truth out him for a change and maybe he see the truth about his complete inability to manage and carry himself with dignity. george

I'd up the dose George. It's a strong case of lying and the weight ratio calls for more.

@op. ally has done it on a shoestring? I take it you're at the wind up!. dh

I agree with op well said sick and tired of all the anti Ally rubbish posted on here we are sitting pretty in the league scoring for fub and conceding very few what ealse do they want

Well for one it would have been nice not to have been humiliated in the cups, not once not twice but 8 times. If your happy with his record in the cups then maybe your from the green side of the city? Strange how Ally only took his wage cut after the accounts came out and let the fans know what outrageous money he was on. Why didn't this "Rangers man" take the payout when we were in div 3? Given the wage bill then Ally is entitled to be sitting pretty at the top of the league after all we are playing again part time players

11 Oct 2013 12:41:09
Please read my reply to billys post further up lads, ally treated us like fools when his contract came out, no wonder bomber has no time for him now, sad but true

Nameless poster just because ally is a true gers man doesn't make him a good manager I would rather have a good manager http isn't a true gers man as u put it an actual play good football as well instead of ally telling people to kick the ball high up to daly