Rangers Banter Archive January 11 2014

 

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11 Jan 2014 21:08:05
Hi Ed- posted earlier about Allys wage cut, and his concern about staff job cuts was logged in.
are you blocking my posts Ed?
(bluebeard) in case my log in is not working.

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{Ed039's Note - I just checked your recent posts and I cant see anything like that mate, must not have come through but your posts defo arent being blocked for your peace of mind)

Ed039-cheers for the feedback:)

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{Ed039's Note - No probs)

11 Jan 2014 14:47:08
Hi ed, was in mixed company last night in the pub, think there was 12 of us and everyone was staggered that ally mccoist was on double the wages as Neil Lennon last year, considering the league's both manage at. What's your thoughts on this?

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{Ed039's Note - I dont actually know what NL is on, but if it is true then Ally and the powers that be at Ibrox seriously need to take a long hard look at themselves)

Maybe Neil Lennon read his contract before signing it.

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@1 people like you drive me insane, the point I was making was ally was on a contract no premiership manager should be on let alone a 3rd division manager.

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Sorry sweep1. I thought this was the banter page not the deadly serious one.

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Blueice maybe you should open your eyes up a bit wider from the black and white. Did you know Ally McCoist collected no wages from February to July 2012 he took an upaid to lead by example to his players that it was about the club before asking them to cut their wages. Charles Green acknowledged this when agreeing his participation going forward. I remind you McCoist was making a mint from Question Of Sport and being a pundit a lot more than he has in management. He gave all that up to work with the man he admired most when the call came from Walter Smith. He wanted to be manager of Rangers more than live in the celebrity media bubble he was in. If you think Ally McCoist is a greedy man united need to check your facts then your head. That goes for a lot more of you who critise the man considering that he stood by and spoke for the club and the fans when nobody else would.

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@4 are you serious? 825,000 per year for a manager in the 3rd division, no wonder the club is in a state with fans like you.

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@4 it's very easy for a millionaire to work for nothing for a few months and in any case think you'll find he has been well compensated since then. Over £800k for a third division manager is ridiculous and not to mention getting a large amount of shares at 1p. Strange how he only decided to take the wage cut once his wage became public. Think if you check your facts you will find Mr McCoist has been well paid during his time as Rangers manager far more then previous managers who managed the team in the top flight. Has he been value for this money? The simple answer is no and he is a long way short

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4) ok so he took no wages from them dates as you state then he has certainly been well compensated since, but ally obviously didn't know this
, because he didn't read his contract did he? I don't know what's more frightening that fact he did that or he thinks were so thick we'd believe it.

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14 Jan 2014 12:46:26
Ally didn't read his contract.

Ally doesn't know if he'll have to move players on - and hasn't thought to ask despite talking to the press about not knowing if he'll have to move players on at every opportunity.

Ally bought shares 'as a fan' although he got his for 1 pence when the fans he urged to buy shares paid 70 pence.

And as I write those 70 pence shares are only worth 25 pence. Wonder if Ally has sold any of his yet?

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@ Blueice what is frightening for me is that Ally's supporters either believe him when he says he didn't look at his contract before signing it or alternatively don't mind him telling a porky on such a "minor" detail.

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Stewie how many times, there were no shares sold to anyone for 1p,
Ally received his shares the same way as all the other original investors including green Ashley etc because they put their own money into the consortium that bought the assets, McCoist at least had the b@lls to put his money up front when the Gang of four and many others had the same opportunity but refused

JG

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Well said JG, Allys shares are only worth the paper they are printed on until he sells them same as everyone elses and as far as i'm aware he has no plans to sell any time soon, IF he took the shares for profit he would have sold months ago. Rangers pay the wages they do because we are the best supported team in Scotland and one of the biggest in Britain that's why we are paying higher wages than aberdeen and partick thistle ect to our players and manager if you pay (as some on here want )third tier wages you will get third tier players.

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JG

I don't think you can slate the gang of 4 as u call them as you don't know exactly what happened during the buying of the clubs assets. Whatever Ally got shares for I don't think anyone can make a case for his ridiculous salary and can't argue with the fact that he has been handsomely rewarded for doing a poor job at the club.

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Jyf - and third tier crowds!

JG

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Stewie I agree that his salary is well over the top but he can't be blamed for that, that was done to the board at that time

the 1p share thing is not correct though,

I do remember seeing green on tv inviting anyone who wanted to invest with the consortium to do so, some did some did not

JG

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14 Jan 2014 20:37:08
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As far as you're aware Ally has no plans to sell shares any time soon but then again, for all we know he's already punted most of them.

He'll never divulge that information if he has punted them and none of his media pals will ever ask him if he has, will they?

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JG

Don't think you should take what Green said as gospel he has been proven to be a stranger to the truth on several occasions. As for Ally I am merely pointing out that he has fallen way short of the wages he is on even with the cut. He is as culpable as anyone including Stockbridge for the situation we find ourselves in. Any manager with ability would have been able to build a team to win the bottom 2 divisions at a fraction of the cost. He isn't building a team for the future to compete in the top league all he is doing is building a team of overpaid journeymen who will be past it by the time we get back to the top league. Only then when we struggle will some people realise this

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Naz, did he not give the voting rights for his shares to his local Rsc, we don't need the media to tell us that this means he still has his shareholding

JG

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15 Jan 2014 14:42:39
#17 Oh right, after saying that it would be 'suicide' to vote against the current board at the AGM, he then claimed out the blue to have given the proxy for his shares to his Calderwood Loyal pals. And then when the board won their votes to remain on the board Ally then claimed he hadn't asked which way his pals were intending to vote.

Call me a cynic but I can't remotely get my head round that chain of events.

That was a few months ago and many have sold RIFC shares since then and remember you can still use a proxy to vote at AGMs with only a handful of shares so nobody on here knows if Ally has sold or not.

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So Naz are you saying Ally has sold his shares?If not why would you assume he has?

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11 Jan 2014 11:37:17
Its reporting in the press this morning that rangers have appointed finance wizard phillip nash as our financial consultant to oversee the overall streamlining of the business, does anybody know how good this guy is because he's definitely very highly regarded, what do you think fellow 'gers fans?

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Trouble looming I fear.

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Great start mr Wallace someone else taken money from the club (to sort out Stockbridges mess) when we're supposed to be making cutbacks

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11 Jan 2014 10:10:17
According to D. R we have brought in finance expert Phil Nash who worked with Arsenal to oversee the cut's does this mean Stockbridge will be going or is it another wage we can ill afford
r. f

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Nash not going to be on a set wage ie Ally, Wallace Stockbridge etc. will be paid for consultion work when and if needed by Wallace? not a clue what going rate is for that but won't be cheap.
Stockbridge still going to be there being paid for?
May be winds of change are happeneing but which way our ship is sailing is impossible to judge.
If they have enough money to be wasting it on shutting down sites ie Sons of Struth then we can't be that bad of finiacially. bit sarcasm there sorry.
And for the Celt supporter who questioned my age and my drink tipple? old enough to be your dad although hopefully i'm not as you seem to be a bit of a person, and as for DRINKING shandy have never diluted my drinks with such nonsense and would much prefer a vodka and water along with a nice cold lager and a good game of doms with my OLD pals. Happy New Year by the way ED.

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{Ed039's Note - Happy New Year Ally, the SOS website isnt being challenged by Rangers for no reason, I am sure George would be able to advise you a bit better, to me it seems SOS got a wee bit above themselves with regards to challenges and rumours and for an organisation that were looking for constructive dialogue may have shot themselves in the foot)

I actually think it is more along the lines of the truth hurts

Easdales not wanting to be object of fans campaign against them/board

It is unfortunately a dangerous game if you have a site set up and people post on it comments that are deemed slander, it took me a good 6 months to get my original posts on CW and CG on this site due to potential slander in the wording.

Craig is in a s**t position in that he is the focus of legal action even though the comments not attributed to him personally.

I am hoping with good legal advice and a few £££ he will be up and running again very soon.

If not the protest is too large to just fade away there will be another FB or Web site set up to carry the torch for all fans not happy with who owns Ibrox, where has money all gone and how are we proposing to fund our future giving the losses we are still making.

RTID . george

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Thanks George, and ED.
They may have got a bit "bolshi" and over stepped the mark but doesn't mean that money has to be wasted stopping peple having an opinion? even though it may be misguided or totally wrong.?
People make assumptions and have opinions on a number of differing things, its called debate. Something that seems to be in short supply in respect of truth at our club?
If our directors could be a bit more open? then this may lessen the doubters/worriers in coming months? that i'm afraid will not happen unless there is "blue snow " coming to Ibrox. :)

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{Ed039's Note - It wasnt an opinion they expressed Ally, it was potentially misleading and slandering accusations, hence the action to have it closed down, whether the rumours are true or not isnt for me to say, but that is why they have had their website challenged)

11 Jan 2014 10:06:52
With the manager being told to cut cost it seems strange to recruit this new financial guru
Philip Nash. Is this not meant to be what
Mr Brian Stockbridge is employed to do. I can assure you bears that chartered accountants at the top end of the there game do not come cheaply.

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Op brain stockbridge is only there to keep an eye on things for his best man amhed and his mucker chas green he is going no where even if he was removed charliebhoy would have full responsability for his replacement

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@1 spot on mate Chico and Ahmad still heavily involved at rangers, with Stockbridge the getaway driver! They will stay until it suits them to move on with their " rewards"

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11 Jan 2014 09:52:20
So Rangers now have Phillip Nash, Stockbridge, Andrew Dickson and Ken Olverman all working in high positions in the accounting/finances of Rangers. Is that not three people too many??

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Op your right it is three to many so when the three leave they should drag stockbridge out with them lol

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It is shocking that ken overmans is still with rangers after his debacle with CW this guy has no morals and will jump into bed with whoever suits to keep his job! After all he is supposed to be a chartered accountant but has lost the moral high ground by his failure to report CW for withholding taxes! and to further compound his dilemma he then gets rangers to pay his legal costs and keep him in a job! Dickson is another stealth "insider trader" who lies under the radar his job should have been removed once rangers went into administration and then liquidation, as he was only their to guide the club through the champions league legal and football matters. Strange since we won't be their for at least another 2 years? And he is on a hefty wage. Still no transparency or honesty from the club!

How many days left till season ticket renewals?

How many days left of the 120 before we will be any further forward?

SPIVS out

Stockbridge out!

Give us our club back!

Get the sleasdales out now!

And finally get toxic jack and his company media house OUT!

RR

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N2 maybe board scared to move ken overmars on because of what he knows as you say he was only to guide on champion league matters

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11 Jan 2014 08:06:00
Divide and conquer - I could be wrong Bears but it seems to me that on these sites there are always wee timely voices slipping in support for your board/owners. Just little enough to go unnoticed as a concerted campaign but still enough to spread misinformation to subdue the masses. I might be paranoid (after all Iam a tic fan) but I wouldn't put anything past your owners, HH

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{Ed013's Note - You need to go on the conspiracy site mate!}

 
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