Rangers Banter Archive February 11 2020

11 Feb 2020 22:14:15
Just watched the open training n just noticed it's on astro turf so how come it's a problem when we get beat by teams who have astro turf now I think there's no excuses.

11 Feb 2020 22:48:27
Firstly it's a different quality - ie ours is much better. Secondly doing some training on astro is fine but sprinting full out and coming together with players tackling and fighting for the ball is another thing all together. It's not an excuse. We should be beating Killie but it is a bit of a leveller and if you have players carrying knocks to knees and ankles it can be a risk to further injuries.

12 Feb 2020 00:15:20
Never even liked training on it when I played, murder on knees n ankles.

12 Feb 2020 01:27:19
Ayr ranger ours is not any better quality. Its 4g same as other sides in spfl and montrose, forfar etc.

12 Feb 2020 06:57:54
Dodger wave not been beaten this year on astro.

12 Feb 2020 08:29:35
I couldn't play on it at end up, reason I stopped playing at 30 to many teams turning to it and training on it, done my knee ligaments on it at 28 and when I came back took me longer to recover after each game played on astro in the end I was only in squad for games on grass pitches.

12 Feb 2020 09:42:38
The quality of these pitches have undoubtedly improved but they should not be used for professional football other than as an alternative to train on if weather rules grass pitches out. I still play on them but after the game every joint in my body is in agony.

12 Feb 2020 10:44:40
Better players should always win out in the end. No excuses!

12 Feb 2020 11:55:20
Jzer. is that you joso.

12 Feb 2020 12:50:57
Hamilton pitch is 3G standard.

12 Feb 2020 13:35:14
Played 5 a sides till my mid 40's on astro pitches at Broadwood. Could hardly get out of bed in the morning after an hour session. Never had that after a game on grass.

12 Feb 2020 17:14:27
I'd agree with that, have played, and still do, on grass, 3G and 4G. Much prefer grass, 3G is murder, 4G is bit better.

11 Feb 2020 18:50:04
Good evening guys

How we all feeling about tomorrow night
Any thoughts on what the team selection tomorrow night

Would anyone have Morelos and kamberi upfront would really like to see it myself

2nd half of both pre ious two games we were looking like getting back to the form urgency intensity we were showing before winter break

Posted other day I thought with how progress is going from winter break we might not see the team playing our full potential until after the braga game

Changing my mind I think we might do it tomorrow night Not knowing what the team or formation he might play

But my gut feeling is no matter what we're going into be in for a really entertaining game tomorrow night with our players showing hunger and flair and I think we might win the game by 3 goals
Morelos being on the scoresheet

Anyway here hoping lol

Looking forward to it 😊.

11 Feb 2020 20:10:28
Doubt we'll play 2 up front, am sure kamberi will get some game time though.

11 Feb 2020 20:38:23
I would go 2 upfront stig. Why not?
Change it up a little. Would start Stewart as he's used to this pitch. Doubt BB will make it. Do we have anyone else we can play at LB except Halliday?

Greggs

Tav edumusson Goldson BB

Kent airfield Jack Hadgi

Morelos kamberi.

11 Feb 2020 21:06:36
We've tried 2 up front before and we struggled with the formation.

11 Feb 2020 21:11:17
Jack fit enough to play tomorrow night?

11 Feb 2020 21:26:38
Kilmarnock are no mugs. Your team looks a bit too attacking and out of possession we would struggle and probably get caught on the break every 5 minutes.

Macgregor
Tav Goldson Edmunson Borna
Arfield Jack Kamara
Haji Morelos Kent

If BB is out, would we try a back 3? Prob not

Macgregor
Goldson Katic Edmunson
Tav Jack Arfield Kamara Kent
Haji
Morelos.

11 Feb 2020 21:27:27
Just hope we win and no injuries, 2 games on plastic 1 after the other, we are not renowned for playing well on plastic!

11 Feb 2020 22:14:16
@Sothend Rangers. Well it's worth a try. We isolate Morelos too much imo. I think if we got more support to him he would get even more goals. Why not attack them. No disrespect but their not Barcelona.

11 Feb 2020 23:24:54
Yeah I hope it’s a attacking formation and like I say would like to see us use two upfront
Kamberi looks to have a lot of pace and seems to know where the goal is

We definitely have the players to go out keep possession and attack and I think now Stevie has had long enough to put some attacking formations together players all have had enough time playing with one another all being hagi and kamberi but think there good enough to slot into an attacking formation and have a right good go at them tomorrow night
Like I say I feel we will win the match by atleast 3

Could be wishful thinking - but have a gut feeling and that’s what I’m sticking with 😊.

11 Feb 2020 23:42:30
Great post Stig. Totally agree.

12 Feb 2020 00:17:37
Thought edmundson was really really shaky at weekend. Got far too square on for there goal. i'd Probably have katic bsck in.

12 Feb 2020 01:30:04
Tbjj is davis injured? Surely he plays b4 Kamara. Apart from that its prob team i would go with.

12 Feb 2020 17:56:55
We need to manage the wizards legs, he's not been playing great.

11 Feb 2020 16:45:49
This site used to be very entertaining about Rangers fans talking about football matters before the winter break.

Since then not much going on - have I missed something boys?

11 Feb 2020 17:01:41
It's going to get back to that now Stubbs, Killie tomorrow, wait for it.

11 Feb 2020 17:10:58
You missed a great game of hide and seek that started on the 29th December!
There are still some folk missing though? Glad you could come out from under your rock and say hi.

11 Feb 2020 17:24:31
Should have went to the "Celtic Post" not the "Banter" one!

11 Feb 2020 17:38:44
Be a tough game for you at Killie Bluebilly but you might just edge it.

87henderson - nice of you to stay classy with the rock comment son - courtesy costs nothing you know. Listen, as far as hide and seek champions are concerned let me tell you that I retired one of your keyboard warriors after the last cup final. It was the last time I posted on your sites (I did not come on here to gloat after we stole it) . I had a gentleman's agreement that whoever won the cup final the loser would be on here to congratulate the other team. Since then nothing so the gold laurel for that belongs to one of your own mate.

11 Feb 2020 19:06:17
Is there a reason why your on a Rangers forum lol

I had a mate who used to be a Celtic fan and turned into a Rangers fan
Never a true fan - but could possibly see you doing this or maybe you are and that’s why your in our site lol

No offence - but welcome the Rangers forum 😉

On a more serious note hope your old captain makes a quick and swift recovery
Had a friend who died of this in his early thirties

Football aside but you never know the minute something like this can happen or anything else
So best wishes Jackie and his family and like I say hope a swift a speedy recovery.

11 Feb 2020 19:41:27
A Celtic fan on a Rangers website taking the moral high ground a day after a 12 year old was charged with shouting racial abuse at a Rangers player!

I really have seen it all now son!

11 Feb 2020 20:56:48
Thestigno1 - If I was to become a Rangers fan my Father and sister would think it was Christmas come early! I have a friend who went from diehard Hearts to diehard Aberdeen so go figure!

Thanks for your sentiments about Jackie - and all other fans who have done such - we stand together at such moments (well almost everyone! ) .

As I said it is about 3 months since I last posted and this post was not intended for the banter page. The Rumours and Banter pages should be the preserve of you guys - but the Celtic Posts is another matter - as the name Implies. Unless I miss my guess? On that page the Rangers fans were giving it the Big'Un (and why not as you had a game in hand and only 2 behind) but the dynamics have changed somewhat along with the "chat".

Why am I on the Rangers site - well actually I intended to ask for help from you guys! Not psychiatric before one of you jumps in!

I was in the attic and came across an item of historic (Rangers/ Scotland) football iconography that I had not seen in years and was going to canvass you guys if you had been to the Ibrox/ Hampden museums. Never having been I would have no idea of what is contained in either!

87henderson - you're spoiling for a fight - put your toys back in the pram. I can only take the moral high ground for myself and not a team. Guys like you give me the boak using the actions of a silly 12 year old boy to further your agenda. Is he a plum - yes. Are there plums in all teams supports - yes. Calling each other out for the actions of a few is ridiculous. Now if you want to continue with your diatribe please go for it. There are many right minded and balanced Rangers fans, if you think you are one of them then step away.

11 Feb 2020 22:24:46
Hi stubbsieshorse

What is it that you came across - don’t think you mentioned in your post
Never been too the Hampden museum myself
Been plenty to Ibrox and done tours of the stadium and such
But interested to know what it is you found

Chat definitely changed since winter break - I’ll be honest god knows what happened once again during winter break
We have dropped away again but hoping we are now getting back into the swing of things and hoping tomorrow night will see my team play well na spit a few goals away against Kilmarnock and get the confidence going again in time for Europe game etc

Tour team playing well and have to admit you have a better depth to your team than we do at the moment but you have had a few years now while we we’re out the top flight to win league easily and get the champions league and Europe games money in the bank and not having to spend much
Think since Stevie has came in, our board have put up as much as they can to support him and I definitely salute them for it as long as it’s not more then we can afford since that’s a lot to do with what put us in the position we were in there for past few years

Anyway from my point of view along with the rest of the Rangers fans on here hopefully tomorrow night puts us back on track and hoping Your team have a little bad spell like we’ve just had lol
And hopefully we can win the remaining old firm games that may make break each sides chances of winning the league 😊 👍.

12 Feb 2020 00:41:23
Thestigno1 - I said before we lost at Parkhead that I was enjoying the challenge this year. And a few other fans of Celtic have admitted as much as well. Winning the league at a procession is not good for anyone and certainly does not excite as much as a close run thing. having said that I feel Rangers will come up short this year too for the reason you mentioned - but I would say that!

When I was a wee lad my dad brought home a Scotland football top - . It was from 1967 when Scotland became unofficial world champions remember. To cut a long story short (ha! ) my dad was a bouncer at some unsavoury night clubs in Edinburgh run by a famous/ infamous gangster in the 60's (name can be supplied! ) . One of the clubs was a gambling joint and a certain Rangers player who had a problem with gambling couldn't pay his debts so he gave this shirt in lieu of part of his debt.

Now this gangster gave it to a fellow bouncer as he was a Gers fan (name can be supplied! ) . Now my father was/ is a big Rangers fan too and indeed he had served with this gambler in the Black Watch, played in the same team as the gambler in the Army and knew him well. So the my father was given the shirt by his friend - I don't think they put the same store on memorabilia as we do now.

So I think by now you might have joined up the dots about what shirt number it is and who wore it on that day and of the great game he had that day taking the total P**h outa the English.
I know they only issued that type/ style of shirt for a few games before changing it so there could not have been more than say half a dozen in existence.

As a kid I would wear it everywhere and even boiled it once to clean it which resulted in the blue dye running onto the white six etc. Also pinned it to my wall so it has holes in the sleeves etc.! There is a show on TV called The Repair Shop and they fix artefacts and I was thinking of going to apply for it with this item. I can come up with a better back story than I have expressed here!

I was wondering though if there were any other shirts kicking around claiming to be the same before I applied. I believe my story is water tight as VERBAL provenance as the man himself told my father of the great day after he learned my father had ended up with it - he didn't seem particularly bothered that he had given it away at all - must have been some debt! That is where the Museums come in and if any of you have any knowledge on the subject.

Now I really don't have a clue what I would do with the thing if / after I got on the show but I feel I should at least try to get my story straight first.
I would be grateful if you could put the word round if you ever visit the museum again or canvass the guys on this site etc. I feel that this post is probably way down the list now to be viewed by many.
Thoughts?

12 Feb 2020 08:09:07
Wow would’ve interesting to know how much it would be worth imagine a fair bit of it was proven to be the official top wore by Baxter

Never heard of the show before
Will have a look now though

How much repairing does the top need now?

If was the official top and worth a lot would you sell it or would you keep it

I think I would keep it
But great back ground story on how you ended up with it 😊
One too keep us posted on if you get any further with it.

12 Feb 2020 13:31:08
I think its historic worth is more important than its financial worth to be honest. I am sure there would be a market for it to the right person/ organisation.

Like I say I am not sure what I would do with it - probably enjoy it for a while and then possibly donate it to a good home where it belongs - Ibrox/ Hampden. ASSUMING they don't have one already! Hence my request for help. I think it would look great in your museum as a tribute to one of your greats.

Can you do me a favour? if you or someone else you know goes to the museum can you ask on my behalf at all?

Damage - All the stitching is great and there are no rips/ tears/ fraying. Like I say I boiled it as a boy and the blue dye has come out the heavy wool (?) and slightly tinged the white collar/ cuffs/ number 6 and the whites on the badge. I believe it is not too difficult to remove that with the right solutions.

Of slightly greater concern is a few holes in the cuffs / collar. shoulder - maybe 6 or 8 of those where I tacked and stretched it to my wall - my brother and I thought it looked ace! I am sure there are specialists that could patch these up without it showing. Hence the show The Repair Shop - BBC 1, I think.

The maker UMBRO - has made them of great quality though and I can see how players may have struggled in them when they got wet as they would have been heavy.

I wish I could/ knew how to upload a picture of it on here.

Like I say - I think this thread is too far down now to get read by many so I might try again another time to get it to the top.

Anyway - good luck (but not too much! ) today.

11 Feb 2020 09:41:46
What has happened to Jacke McNamara just makes one realise that football is at the end of the day just a game. People's lives and families are far more important than that. My wife had a mini-stroke out of the blue just before Christmas. It makes you really focus on what is important. Let's enjoy the football but get rid of the bitterness and nastiness. Hope Jackie recovers fully.

{Ed033's Note - They couldn't beat the Scottish people physically in a fight because the Scottish people are too physically tough, so they have to beat the Scottish people mentally using Jedi Mind Tricks. It's called 'Divide and Conquer'. In order to conquer Glasgow, all they had to do is create 2 opposing football teams and let the Glasgow people fight amongst themselves.

11 Feb 2020 10:47:40
What an odd post!?

11 Feb 2020 10:21:36
Your just about right Ed033 but more importantly they invented buckfast which is far more effective.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, but at least I got your attention

11 Feb 2020 11:07:41
I take it your not from Glasgow Ed?

{Ed033's Note - no, but that doesn’t mean I’m incorrect about the Divide and Conquer part

11 Feb 2020 11:42:25
Hi again Ed033, take it you are not really familiar wi the Rangers Celtic Hibs scenario .

Celtic an Hibs were formed by catholic priests to contest the dominence of protestant Rangers FC of the time.

{Ed033's Note - I’m aware of it. Why do they take all these children’s games and put money into turning them into large time consuming adversarial events? Money, you might say, but I’m talking about the bigger picture. Some of you know that our conspiracy site shows the bigger picture.

11 Feb 2020 13:05:36
Bluebilly, your actually wrong, as Rangers were not tied to anything, and were simply a sporting athletic club, it was only after Celtic were formed that the current blue side of Northern Ireland (who the majority worked in the shipyards started to follow rangers)

11 Feb 2020 14:06:44
Further comment johnjohn :- It's great to be corrected by other posters without being humiliated to high heaven for not being up to date on the facts.

Thanks for that mate no matter if your from the dark side or not and I mean that.

11 Feb 2020 13:54:08
Thanks for that johnjohn, always happy to be kept up to date.

However, I am 100% certain Celt and Hibs were formed by catholic priests tho and nothing will change the sectarianism that caused.
I don't believe that it will ever die as it's passed on generation to generation by each religious sect.

ps:- personally I could not care less the religious preference by these three clubs as I was brought up church o Scotland and went to a protestant school (now classed as non denominational) .

I have loads of catholic friends who like I am a staunch Rangers supporter they are of celtic but we still have harmless banter and jibes with each other.

11 Feb 2020 14:24:42
Despite the Ed's bizarre reply to the heartfelt original post taking the comments in a strange direction, I would also like to wish Jackie and his family all the best in which is undoubtedly horrible time for them.

11 Feb 2020 14:32:59
It's true. Hibs then Celtic brought religion into Scottish football.

11 Feb 2020 14:53:33
Bluebilly, for once ime in complete agreemet with your reply above, pal.

11 Feb 2020 14:59:30
Ed already said it was to get our attention Only_a_game.

It is a banter page after all.

We all wish McNamara a speedy recovery tho.

11 Feb 2020 16:11:44
Bluebilly, Hibs were not formed by priests, but by the Irish catholic community, thus becoming the first club in Scotland founded on sectarian principles. Celtic were founded by a Marist priest called Walfrid, ostensibly to raise money to aid the local Irish catholic poor, but were quickly taken over by other elements. They stole all the best catholic players from other clubs, including Hibs, to try to achieve some kind of prominence in the game.

They were openly sectarian, and even had a former IRA man lay a sod of Irish turf at their new Parkhead ground. All this time Rangers were an enthusiastic amateur team, founded by kids and open to all. Indeed, it has been said that if Queens Park had embraced the new professionalism at the time, they would have been the obvious team for Protestants to follow. However, as the years passed and Ulster workers came to Glasgow to work in the shipyards, they gave their allegiance to Rangers along with the many thousands of locals who found the encroachment of Irish republicanism into the game objectionable.

11 Feb 2020 16:21:36
My late dad told me in his time following football, hibs were classed for a spell as a masonic team.

11 Feb 2020 16:36:06
SGL
My father, dead a while now, said the same and that there was a time the Board considered changing the name to Edinburgh City in 1940's -50's.

Dundee Harp / Hibernian -later United also had a significant role in polarizing the football public.

11 Feb 2020 16:59:42
Just before this topic is closed and we get back to the football side I would just like to say.

Of all my mates and workmates who are football supporters of Rangers and Celts every catholic is a celts supporter none are Rangers supporters.

On the other hand any of them who are prody some say they support celts with no reason other than they say they are a winning club.

11 Feb 2020 17:05:13
Don't understand 'masonic' team. Did it mean players, fans, directors? Or just that they attracted a bit of support from a few local 'Proddies'? I've never come across that before, but it is certain that they were the first Scottish club founded on purely sectarian principles.

11 Feb 2020 17:28:33
I know 3 (off the top of my head) Catholic Rangers supporters, one with a season ticket in the Copland.

11 Feb 2020 17:47:38
Celtic ruined Scottish football by bringing religion into it. 👍.

11 Feb 2020 17:48:27
my god you people don't even get what the ed was saying, are you really that naive, hahhaha they brought sectarianism into the game we are so good, you are like children and not the geeks.

11 Feb 2020 18:50:04
I thought Celtic were just Hibs hiding behind their believe hoops. Lol.

11 Feb 2020 23:23:08
Swagman, I am happy that you know 3 catholic Rangers fans. In 68 years of following the club I have met none.

12 Feb 2020 13:27:38
That says more about your club than anything.

11 Feb 2020 09:17:30
Jamie Murphy having a great start to life at Burton Albion. Would absolutely love for someone to explain to me how Barker, Ojo or Jones are better than this guy?

11 Feb 2020 10:16:07
I always liked Murphy, he was great before his bad injury, maybe just needed game time?

11 Feb 2020 10:56:22
Totally agree with you both. Out of contract in May and wonder if we will keep him? Presumably free to talk to other clubs. Would rather a fit Murphy than Ojo or Barker any day. Hope the latter two leave in the summer. We mustn’t even consider a permanent move for Ojo.

11 Feb 2020 10:29:24
He's absolutely tearing up League 1🤣
And as Mrgrumpy says, after a long lay off he needs game time👍
Is that a good enough explanation?

11 Feb 2020 11:18:34
Yeah i prefer murphy 100% over barker and ojo.

11 Feb 2020 11:42:56
Always like Murphy but I don't think SG does. Would have been a good option. with Ojo there is something missing. Barker is beyond me. Waste of a wage.

11 Feb 2020 11:49:30
Ibrox, I'm sure his contract ends in 2021.

11 Feb 2020 12:08:45
If he needs game time and we’re then bringing him back, fine. If not, then I think that’s a mistake as I’ve said above he’s better than the 3 we’ve got warming the bench.

Not sure the hilarity at “tearing up League 1?”

Most English league 1 sides have more money and better players than at least half the SPL. SPL teams are losing players they want to keep to League 2!

11 Feb 2020 13:00:46
Swagman!
Yesterday you said Aberdeen could hold their own in the EPL as they did not too badly against Burnley in the Europa League about a thread about EPL teams winning our SPFL.
To suit your argument about Murphy, you are now bigging up League 1.

P.S. I like Murphy. But he needs game time. Not a 10 - 15min cameo role from the bench. Hopefully if he has a year left like someone has said he can come back ready for next season.

11 Feb 2020 14:29:17
Don’t tell lies, I absolutely did not say anywhere Aberdeen could hold their own in the EPL. I said they gave Burnley a good game over two legs a couple of years ago which is a fact. Aberdeen would finish dead last in the EPL, probably in the Championship too. They could just about compete in League 1.

What I said was that middling EPL teams wouldn’t walk over Rangers or Celtic. I did say they would at least be competing for 3rd. So any EPL team would be at least the 3rd best team in Scotland.

Now onto League 1 - the salaries in that division outstrip everyone in Scotland bar the Old Firm. Aberdeen lost Rooney to Salford in League 2. Many Scottish clubs have come out and said they can’t compete with the English League 1.

So aye, both my points stand separately and together.

11 Feb 2020 14:45:55
Marco c, you beat me to it mate, i also think murph has another year to go, on contract.

11 Feb 2020 16:04:20
He's 'tearing up' a third tier league that includes Accrington, Wycombe, Fleetwood, Gillingham, Lincoln and other giants of the game. He's played four games! Come on guys, he's a 30 year old journeyman who won't be back in a blue jersey. However, Barker and Ojo are no better. I also find it strange, swagman, that you seem to equate 'competing' with money.

11 Feb 2020 17:29:50
I’m not equating competing with money, but it would be stupid to say money doesn’t help you compete. Otherwise why are the Old Firm so far ahead of the rest of Scotland? Because we pay the biggest wages.

11 Feb 2020 17:46:11
So they can pay more money - big deal. The standard is terrible!
So an Aberdeen side that constantly troubles Rangers is League 1 standard but we are top 8 in the EPL? 🤔
That's some gulf in class 🤣.