Rangers Banter Archive August 11 2013

11 Aug 2013 18:24:40
I just wish some of my fellow rangers season ticket holders & fans in general would give our manager ally mccoist a break and get off the guy's back, the time to judge the super one is at the end of this season when at least he's had a proper pre season to build on with the players and I must admit I'm very impressed with all ally's new signings, what a massive difference they are going to make I guarantee it, I'm very confident that we'll play an attacking brand of football which will be very pleasing on the eye, just like all TRUE rangers supporters ally mccoist bleeds red, white & blue, BIG RAM!

Well said Big Ram

I wish people would stop going on about the lack of pre season for the poor performances last season. We were in the 3rd division last year playing against part time players. Also we were told about how the players had had a great pre season this year and were ready for the new season. Then another embarrassing defeat to Forfar and another chance to progress in the cup and make some much needed revenue had gone once again

@2 you fail to mention the Fact that the team. against Forfar was minus eight players who played in the pre season games. Shows your total ignorance about the game of football if you think that did not impact on the performance. Throw in Greens un motivational comments on the morning of the game and it was a tough ask from the players. Why do you even follow football if you do not even understand the basics?

@3. Totally disagree with you point of view. Do you not think the the 11 (+ subs) full time players who played should have been good enough to beat the part time players they were facing; over extra-time?. Also, if your boss told you you were crap at your job wouldn't you go out to prove him wrong rather than prove him right? Don't be applying for any sports psychologist jobs just yet.
Al

11 Aug 2013 15:24:19
where are the answers from the 50 questions asked the other night?
question51. who owns ibrox and murray park?

Why was that not the 1st question?

11 Aug 2013 12:39:51
McCoist says he won't resign amid protests about Green! I warned about this previously, we must protest against McCoist first we cannot allow him to keep his vastly over paid job one moment longer than is necessary, Green, Whyte, Murray whoever they will all do as they please but to allow McCoist to continue milking us from the inside is madness. Ally McCoist is at Rangers for Ally McCoist no one else, how many times has he proven this by backing every single CEO, chairman etc and still we know nothing except we have bought 34000 STs with no guarantee the club will still be solvent at Xmas even before McCoist signs 8 new players! Money is disappearing at an alarming rate into certain peoples pockets, McCoist is definitely one of those people and should feel the full force of our efforts to rid Rangers of his kind.

The promised budget from green, Stockbridge and recently Mather was for £5m to upgrade facilities at both Ibrox stadium and Murray park. This money has long disappeared through the facilities department by messers Stockbridge, Mather and his external cohorts Iain Morgan and George Angus. Using the usual rouse of contracting and consultants the amounts are unbelievable but will eventually come out once we see the accounts!

The next major issue is there is no internal maintenance team as most where made redundant recently for asking some very pertinent question that in particular mr Stockbridge didn't like! Mather completely backed Stockbridge up so he is as much to blame in the whole "great stadium robbery"

This now leaves Stockbridge and the financial controller ken overmans to spend as much as they like using sub contract companies to provide services another vast cost that will be grossly overcharged again!

Show us the books!

The stadium is falling apart and has been getting steadily worse for the last 6 months this has been highlighted to the facilities consultant in charge but he does not have a clue about how the stadium operates instead he uses one of the "insider traders" to do his running around his name is Gordon Mcallister and he is a complete disgrace and should be dismissed from the ranks immediatly there is more to come about his role in the "great stadium robbery"

Good post mate. is it only the few that think its shocking that last season ally mccoist was asking players to take a pay cut to help the club and yet even now he shrugs his shoulders saying nobody has asked me bout taking a pay cut. should he not be offering given his pay levels?

Smith, McCoist and every other person at Ibrox must know the financial position. Malcolm Murray was pushed because he knew and could see increasing wage bills and no cut backs were killing the Club. He was the most respected businessman on the board and was punted, tells it's own story surely.

@op that's the same guy who took a 75% wage drop look a don't think he's a good manager but it was green who gave him that wage see if your boss offered you a hefty wage would you turn that down no so stop going on about mccoists wage it's not ally or his players who's pocketed 20-30 mill so your post is absolutely pointless

@4. Good post. Saved me writing it. Also it seems to be open season on ally. The haters know they can't remove him on football reasons so now they are painting a picture of someone who is raiding the safe each night. Come on. Do you think the guy is a thief? He has a contract and is paid a wage which was agreed by the consortium who bought rangers assets. That is it. And who did he ask to take a pay cut last season?

@2 how must smith mccoist know about the finances the club have also if Malcolm Murray knows then he's not the rangers fan he is making out because he would have came out and told everybody because trust me if was in his position and knew somrthing I would come out and tell the fans regardless of what restrictions that there may be as would any rangers fan why are the fans still arguing over mccoists wage who knew we all know now for sure green Mather Stockbridge and the rest are the ones who's shafting our club why don't we all just concentrate on getting these muppets out of our club the now then we can deal with a new manager regardless of mccoists inability to manage we will still win the league so all fans should concentrate getting rid of the board snd leave mccoist for now

@ OP I agree mate and so do a lot of people posting on here but incredibly when you get into the stadium McCoist is still very popular

McCoist has the smile of a crocodile with golden teeth. You say how would he know what the finances are like. I say he knows all too well what's happening. He's not that stupid. He might not know the exact figures but he knows the clubs F&ck'd and he's still milking the cash cow for the sake of his sons as his shares will soon be worth nothing. I think when the truth comes out u will see the then sacked McCoist riding on a pony behind the blue knights when they pick up the club for zero with CVA.

A manager recieving 750k per year in the 3rd teir of Scottish football is a disgrace. You'd think he was something special on that wage and able to build a squad of youngsters. But no he needs to bring in 8 new players because he couldn't install a winning mentality in last years team. 750k must not buy you that.

11 Aug 2013 19:07:33
Mcoist was given the job to do. He was offered a contract and a set wage with a bonus system. He gave up his wages to help save Rangers he is a hero!
He is a Rookie manager who's football team went bust, he was left to pick up the pieces and won the leauge by 26 points. Any where else in the world he would be a hero, but not on small minded, bigoted Scotland.
Yeah he f@&ked up but he is a rookie with a s*** team it was inevitable it was going to happen.
Alex Fergusons first 2 years at Manchester United were bad but look what happend there.
Give the boy a chance. He deserves it if it was not for him you would not have had the titles you have now!

@10. Cannot agree with you mate. How long will Ally be a rookie manager for? Full time players playing part time players who put in a normal weeks work over and above their football commitments and we are struggling to get results against them and getting knocked out of cups by them. Are you seriously comparing Ally McCoist to Sir Alex Ferguson as a Manager. They are at opposite ends of the scale I`m afraid.

12 Aug 2013 16:15:19
How the hell is he a rookie he's into his 3rd season

11 Aug 2013 10:47:18
would anyone like to estimate just how much Sally has cost the club in lost revenue for all the cup competitions he`s been kicked out of?
must run into millions!
caller on phone in the other night, suggested the Malmo/Maribor debacle arguably forced the club into liquidation for that lost revenue alone!
makes you think?

Yeah that's right those two games forced the club into administration and not the years of miss management. It got me thinking alright that the caller on the radio and you are talking nonsense!

Dear God!

Of course it had NOTHING to do with Whyte stealing all the tax money did it??

Give me strength.

In Ally I trust
GDog

@2

You are wasting your time trying to tell some of them. So blind, all they can see is the footballing side, while there are one or two important issues in the background.

Rangers have been knocked out of Europe early too many times before. All it did was force whytes hand sooner. As he would have had a bigger pay day if he got his dirty little thieving hands on cl money. It is only the uneducated who really believe this caused our demise.

Great post and and yes you are spot on action is needed and needed fast!

Rangers need a business CFO, someone who will tell us what we can affort and where we need to make cuts. I love Ally but think we can't afford him. Bit relity is I don't know, like everyone I guess. Forget boardroom battles get an empowered CFO and a chairman who will back him and tell us the truth

Psn4 great post mate you beet me to it on this occasion but I posted simalar when the s*** hit the fan regards white

@5 yeah and those people who keep burying their head in the sand need to give themselves a good shake! It's people like you that has got this club in the keek it is in! Start asking questions and getting the rediculous blue tinted glasses off ya person!

11 Aug 2013 09:58:35
Ally McCoist - The Years.

May 6 2011 12. 02pm Ally McCoist adds Craig Whyte as friend.
June 2011 11. 42am: Well that's me in the big job now. I promise we will play a positive formation all the time, no silly cup defeats and I'll never try and make an excuse for a bad performance.
June 2011 11. 46am: Ally McCoist went from single to being in a relationship with Craig Whyte.
October 21 2011 Ally McCoist: It's great, it's smashing, me and Craig have a good working relationship.
November 14 2011 4. 59pm Craig Whyte: Hi Ally I think I left my pen on top of the deeds folder, it's beside the Arsenal shares. Where are they kept again?
November 14 2011 5. 02pm Ally McCoist: Lol, whit are you like? It's in the Blue Room cupboard, WATP!
November 14 2011 5. 03pm Ally McCoist: Craig, your pen's in my room ya rocket. :)
November 14 2011 5. 04pm Ally McCoist: Craig?
February 13 2012 6. 07pm Ally McCoist: is sad :Admin, gutted. : (
February 14 2012 9. 02pm Ally McCoist is listening to We Don't Talk Anymore by Cliff Richard and Walking Away by Craig David on Soundcloud
February 15 2012 4. 33pm Ally McCoist: We don't do walking away!
February 22 2012 9. 04am Ally McCoist: Craig ya wee b****** where are the Arsenal shares?
February 22 2012 9. 05am Ally McCoist went from in a relationship to single.
February 22 2012 9. 06am Ally McCoist deleted Craig Whyte as a friend.
May 13 2012 1. 13pm Ally McCoist adds Charles Green as a friend.
June 13 2012 11. 52pm Ally McCoist: Is at James Traynor's house. :Getting sick of all these press leaks.
June 14 2012 3. 42 pm Ally McCoist: CVA scunnered : (
June 14 2012 4. 16pm Ally McCoist went from single to being in a relationship with Charles Green.
June 14 2012 4. 17pm Neil Lennon: Awwww, I'm glad you found someone. :)
June 14 2012 4. 18pm Ally McCoist: :)
June 14 2012 5. 22pm Walter Smith: Don't worry we've put a bid in.
June 14 2012 5. 23pm Ally McCoist went from in a relationship to it's complicated.
June 14 2012 5. 24pm Neil Lennon: Eh?
June 19 2012 11. 43am Walter Smith: : (
June 19 2012 11. 44am Ally McCoist went from it's complicated to in a relationship with Charles Green.
July 17 2012 7. 49pm Ally McCoist: Yay! Just won the Champions League on Champ Manager, that Matt McKay is a great player.
August 25 9. 42pm Ally McCoist: What's the best road for Berwick?
August 25 9. 44pm Neil Lennon: Dunno, haven't been down there for years.
December 21 10. 02am Ally McCoist: Charles is forthright and opinionated, I'd rather have him that way. The difference between Charles and the man who was in place before him is like night and day.
December 21 2012 6. 04pm Neil Lennon: Awwww.Sorry I was busy earlier talking to the press about us drawing Juventus yesterday.
March 7 2013 12. 22pm Charles Green: This is the worst Rangers team ever!
March 8 2013 2. 37pm Ally McCoist: He was 100% right in what he was saying. He was trying to give everybody a realistic idea of where we are at the moment and he was spot on.
March 8 2013 4. 14pm Annan Athletic FC: We're gonnae hump ye the morra!
March 8 2013 4. 15pm Ally McCoist: LMAO!
March 9 2013 6. 18pm Annan Athletic FC: Told ye!
March 9 2013 6. 19pm Ally McCoist deleted Annan Athletic FC as a friend.
March 30 2013 7. 42pm Ally McCoist joins the So You've Just Been Handed A £350,000 Bonus For Doing The Square Root Of F*** All page.
April 7 2013 8. 16am Charles Green: And I'll say to him, how's my little P**i friend?
April 7 2013 8. 19am Ally McCoist joins Show Racism The Red Card page.
April 7 2013 5. 42pm Ally McCoist: Charles don't call my team rubbish ya w*****. I'm not sure how many titles Charles has won in his career but I've been very fortunate to win 14 at our football club, including as assistant manager.
April 7 2013 5. 44pm Ally McCoist went from in a relationship to single.
April 7 2013 5. 45pm Ally McCoist deleted Charles Green as a friend.
April 7 2013 5. 52pm Neil Lennon: Awwww, hugs xoxoxoxo
April 24 2013 11. 02am Ally McCoist adds Craig Mather as a friend.
April 24 2013 11. 04am Ally McCoist went from being single to in a relationship with Craig Mather.
April 24 2013 11. 05am Ally McCoist: It's just interim but we'll see how it goes. :)
April 24 2013 11. 19am Neil Lennon: Fingers crossed for you, third time lucky :)
May 4 2013 10. 46am: Ally McCoist: If I am going to be totally selfish about it, I would have to spend it to get out of the division and keep me, Ian Durrant, Kenny McDowall and the rest of the staff in a job.
May 4 2013 10. 47am Ian Durrant and Kenny McDowall: Like this.
August 3 2013 9. 42am Ally McCoist joins the tv Weather page.
August 3 2013 2. 41pm Ally McCoist: Is at Forfar Athletic FC. Weather fine, no excuses today.
August 3 2013 5. 42pm Ally McCoist is embarrassed at Charles Green.
August 7 2013 3. 22pm Ally McCoist: I'm in regular discussions with Craig, (not that Craig lol) normally on a daily basis and normally a good few times each day. We speak regularly, we meet regularly, and I've been speaking to him as you would expect. As I've said all along, the chief executive and the manager is arguably the biggest working relationship in the club and it's safe to say and see that we are absolutely getting on fine.
August 8 2013 9. 13pm Ally McCoist is at Rangers meeting. Yay! Charles is going to get his arse kicked. :)
August 8 2013 11. 33pm Neil Lennon: :) Sorry I'd have got back to you earlier but I was looking at clips of our potential Champs League opponents, fingers crossed for Karaganda.
August 8 2013 11. 44pm Ally McCoist: WTF! Did Stockbridge say we only had £10m in the bank?
August 8 2013 11. 59 Ally McCoist is invited to attend Admin 2: This time it's for real! February 2014
Yes No Maybe

Gaz

@gaz mate you make a lot of sense with your comments but this borderline OCD but a like most of what you say is your real name imran (lol)by any chance you seem to know more than most on here

Gaz mate you really need to get a life mate as the celtic fans so kindly point out what has Lennon got to do with any of this

Gaz- I'm beginning to think you've got too much time on your hands mate.

@1) Everything is easy found online, every quote (apart from the joke ones of course) but the three ringing endorsements are straight out of Ally's gub, as was his initial reply to Green's worst team jibe.

@2) Now that is interesting, you clearly visit the Celtic page (where one comment said that) but it is US who are the only ones possibly obsessed? Just gave the game away didn't you 2)?

There are Rangers fans on another site, who frequently refer to Ally and Neil regards being golfing buddies now I don't know if it was once or if it was last week or 5 years ago but I thought it added something to it based on that.

Baybear you are probably right but I can guarantee I know more facts about all of this than most of you with not one "ear to the ground" source, I read, I remember and at some point later I regurgitate it. And I'm not saying this in a hell mend you sort of way but it's sourcing info that will keep these folks accountable. Shining example, Jim Traynor says to 200 of you on Thursday night "No, despite the deal a certain much criticised media co. won't be allowed access to Ibrox on Saturday. " On Saturday Jim McLean was providing live updates from the ground, their words don't even last 48 hrs scrutiny any more, will you ever take issue with them? Or do we need to lead you by the nose to their every lie, deception and misdeed?

Gaz

@1) Lol, no one Imran, he got rumbled for doing that on another site though his name on it was hardly cryptic was it :)

Gaz

Gaz I wish you were a bear- yet again you are one of the few who talk sense on this forum. Sit back for the Super Ally brigade having a real go though. But keep posting mate you tell it as it is

@4 ha ha :0) no offence intended mate. I'm not doubting your honesty or points. Just took one look at the post and thought "fu@! me! that Gaz fellie needs to get out more" I couldn't bring myself to read it in all honesty. I'm partial to writing a bit of war n peace myself but this post just took it too far ;0)
Seriously though, I'm sure you've made some valid points dude, you usually do. I'll go back and read a bit now. Just getting myself a wee glass of red and popping on my smoking jacket to settle in for the night ;0)

Gaz I think your on the brink of a breakdown worrying about the most successful club in scotland

Lol, cheers 6) but that being a bear comment bit I can't deal with lol.

No worries baybear, it's a three-piper in old smoking terminology I think :)

8) The real question is will you have a breakdown when they are no longer Scotland's most successful club? If it is indeed true now. At the rate of cash and top domestic trophies you are haemoraging to us and the chasm in finances I wouldn't rule us out winning a first to 60 race, can you?

Gaz

@9 aye, it was a three-piper right enough :0) Did give me a wee chuckle at bits. Good to read a bit of comedy amongst the relentless gnashing of teeth.

Cheers 10) That was it's plan, for once I tried to live up to the term banter page.

Gaz