Rangers Banter Archive May 10 2019

 

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11 May 2019 14:16:44
Just watching a Spurs fan saying he would love to go to final but can't afford the ticket if he could get one. The price of the tickets are a disgrace. Football was a working class game but not anymore. Even the price of flights have shot through the roof.



10 May 2019 20:03:50
Has anybody mentioned Vladimir Weiss recently?



10 May 2019 20:41:31
No why would we?



10 May 2019 20:49:47
You just did Grantmac.



10 May 2019 21:40:04
Even Weiss hasn’t mentioned himself so hopefully that one has been put to bed. How about Hutton, Naismith etc?



11 May 2019 16:01:24
I believe we are looking at Kevin Phillips. 😜.



10 May 2019 19:22:28
Just for a wishlist idea, there's a young Slovakian midfielder named Albert Rusnak in the MLS who has been fantastic for Real Salt Lake so far this season, came through the Man City youth system and I think would fit very well into our current system maybe as an upgrade on Jack.



10 May 2019 19:55:52
Sorry mate, but ryan jack most definitely deserves his starting place in our midfield and has been superb for us. Jack would always have a place in our midfield, as far as i'm concerned.



10 May 2019 20:30:01
I'm a big fan of Ryan Jack myself, had a terrific season but we will always look to add more quality and this boy is a prospect. Wouldn't mind if Jack wants to score the winner Sunday again mind you!



10 May 2019 20:51:59
I like Jack but he is not good enough to mix it in European group stages year in year out which is where we need to get to. Decent at SPL level but not above, he need upgraded at some point but priorities elsewhere right now!



10 May 2019 21:01:20
If we want to go up a level then we need better than jack. Kamara arfield davis are all much better than jack👍.



10 May 2019 21:51:27
Agreed coldo.
I ain’t a fan of jack does a good job but we need better.
Also don’t think we can win a league with Goldson and katic as our mainstay defenders we need one or two more that are better.



10 May 2019 22:02:33
Honestly guys, i think you're being a bit unfair on ryan jack here! This midfielder under steven gerrard has improved a lot and who's to say he'll not kick on and get better again. Wee_bear, didn't our manager wax lyrical about ryan jack's performances in the europa league group stages this year? Yes he did mate and quite rightly so! I'm not for a minute saying kamara, davis and arfield are not very good midfielders, because undoubtedly they are, but ryan jack most definitely deserves his place in our team, beside them. Give the guy some credit. Our manager certainly rates him and likes him, that's for sure!



10 May 2019 22:19:43
I'm surprised that some posts don't rate Ryan Jack. The guy does all the dirty work. Every team needs a player like that we would be a poorer team without him imo.



10 May 2019 22:48:23
We’d definitely be a poorer team just now but we need to improve all areas of the squad to be European regulars is all I’m saying. This includes Jack, every window we should look to improve 2/ 3 players in the starting 11, jacks time will come but he is doing ok. I agree every team needs one of these guys but we should be scouting a better replacement for every position in the team, it’s how we will become top dog again. Also SuperCooper I believe it was the qualifiers that SG was raving about Jack, not the group stage where we won one game.



10 May 2019 23:11:52
I'm not saying I don't rate jack, far from it. What I am saying is that kamara davis arfield are better than jack and if we are to improve in midfield then I reckon jack would be the one who would be replaced. 👍.



10 May 2019 23:17:00
Not often I agree with coop but I really rate jack. Think he's a bit of an unsung hero for us. I'd think the midfield we've got now, with the addition of Docherty and rossiter to the 1st team squad will be how we line up for Europa league qualifiers.



10 May 2019 23:20:45
The rapid vienna performance was in the group game from ryan jack wee_bear. He played well in most games he played in europe for us mate.



11 May 2019 01:28:13
Let’s be honest, if our midfielders were good enough, would we be where we are, 2nd to the worst Celtic team we’ve come up against in recent years. Jack takes too long moving the ball forward, kamara coming in has helped jack look better, don’t be fooled!
It’s not jacks fault, he tried his hardest but if we stuck by who tries the hardest instead of ability we will still be 2nd and I’m sure we all don’t want that.



11 May 2019 07:14:30
Agree with all that People, we need to be ruthless in pursuit of trophies and the midfield we have just now with no improvements could be caught short again I fear.



11 May 2019 07:42:44
To be fair that midfield has only just been established and the 4 of them compliment each other perfectly. Like the man that matters, Steven Gerrard, I really rate Jack and think he has been exceptional this season.



11 May 2019 07:51:33
would have to disagree with the majority here. ryan jack is better than kamara all round. yes maybe Kamara look better on the ball. but the work rate jack puts in and all the dirty work. Kamara is not capable of doing. looks way to lightweight in games kamara v the teams at the top end of table. Still a good player though. But ryan jack along with Arfield would be 2 of the 1st names on the team sheet for me.



11 May 2019 07:58:40
Jack has had a great season. He does the sort of work on the pitch that often doesn't look good or leads to glory but he is a 100% man. For me, the jury is still out on Kamara. Very skilful and classy but if he plays tomorrow then let's see how performs. Arfield will sort Broon out tomorrow no bother and Davis is now showing his class. As someone else posted, I am looking forward to Docherty and Rossiter coming back and with Murphy too we'll have great competition in midfield. Leave Jack alone - he is a future Rangers captain!



11 May 2019 09:20:08
1872 what's cost us is inexperienced! we can in my opinion play the best football in the league one week then the next just think we can turn up and win! well football isn't like that and every game against us is a cup final to these teams! we need 2 or 3 more experienced league winners brought in to add that fighting mentality then we might get somewhere? but this team now have shown they can play some exciting attacking football and dominate when in the mood.



11 May 2019 10:23:39
i don't think anyone is rubbishing Jack but at the same time and same goes for any player surely as the manager said, he would only bring in players who would improve the team. so if someone is better than what we have, and it isn't having a go at anyone, then why wouldn't we replace.



11 May 2019 13:51:17
Jack is IN the team on form but to say he would ALWAYS have a place in the midfield is UTTER RUBBISH. If he’s not playing well he won’t be picked. Absolutely NO ONE is safe in this team under Gerrard. NO ONE.



11 May 2019 21:20:02
Definitely not a thread to bash Ryan Jack, for me he has been outstanding for most of the season but for going forward as a previous poster said a bit of ruthlessness is required to get 55, having Ryan Jack as a back up option would show a pretty decent depth of squad in my eyes. Rusnak will probably never be a target but I urge you all to try and catch some highlights, a fantastic watch and for me what we should be looking at.



10 May 2019 18:18:45
Damn I hoped we would sign McBurnie last year, got shot down he was not good enough on here, 42 games 22 goals in the championship. Very solid record sadly we can't afford him now.



10 May 2019 19:00:10
Yep bluepete lad done well, hands up I was one who said not good enough.



10 May 2019 19:57:28
Always defended him on here, would be an excellent signing.



10 May 2019 20:20:53
I really thought we might have gone for him last summer.
His scoring record all be it at reserve level was amazing
Can’t see it happening now - l wouldn’t be surprised if a team like Everton or Burnley come in for him.



10 May 2019 20:42:52
Jboy21. Think you were correct, not good enough.



10 May 2019 23:22:19
The English championship is a bit of an odd league though. Waghorn was bang average for us but is a £7m striker consistently scoring goals. That striker for Norwich, pukki, top scorer in the league couldn't get a game up here for c*ltic. I've got nothing against mcburnie but when I've seen him playing (for Scotland) he's been a bit of a donkey.



11 May 2019 10:27:36
the hardest thing is to compare any league with ours. i am not saying ours is better, but there is a huge difference in banging in goals against teams who play open football. can they do the same against teams who park the bus. the other main point the striker is only as good as the service he gets. if we can't get the ball to him it doesn't matter how good he is. in my opinion is he any better than what we have now, no i don't think he is.



10 May 2019 16:42:42
Sell Alfie and buy young Cooper and Ryan Kent. What do you think .



10 May 2019 16:54:39
Not for me.



10 May 2019 17:00:56
Good shout THH, I'd go with that. If stories are true and marseille do offer us £16million for morelos, then there's no doubt we have to snap the hand off them and accept it! We can't turn that down. Its a £15million profit on alfredo. I've seen it before that selling one of your prize assets for big money, can benefit the team longterm, especially when you're building towards challenging them, for the league title next year. One very good player being sold can help gerrard make the team much better in the longer term.



10 May 2019 17:06:12
Don't get the hype about cooper, playing at team fighting relegation hardly setting standards. Seems like another worrall. 👍.



10 May 2019 17:29:05
Be careful what you wish for, it will be very hard to get a replacement for Alfie that has the same raw talent and explosive conversion rate.



10 May 2019 17:36:27
So we sell a striker and buy a winger and centre half?



10 May 2019 17:51:15
Coldo the boy Cooper is decent but would probably fetch £8 Million down south mate. And he's on more money there just now than we could offer him I would imagine.



10 May 2019 17:52:24
Good point AD.



10 May 2019 17:53:10
It's about investing the money wisely to benefit team, Cooper looks far better than Worrall. Tell me which centre half you would sign coldo
Arthur, agree with u but think we will get a striker in on loan.



10 May 2019 18:22:57
Arthur D, we just can't turn down £16million mate, if that is the fee that marseille are allegedly going to pay for morelos. That money just wouldn't get us a centre half and
winger it would get us more than just 2 players and help massively in another mini rebuilding job that gerrard is planning on doing. He would probably have the morelos fee and the money from the board he was originally getting. Sometimes selling one of your best players for big money, does in fact help the team become better, in the long run. I rate morelos highly, as most on here know,
but at £16million, imo the club has to sell.



10 May 2019 19:33:10
So who scores the goals sell morelas and blow all the cash on cooper and Kent. Defoe never plays the full 90 and is 36 and lafferty can't score. If we sell morelas we need another 2 strikers unless SG promotes one of the young boys.



10 May 2019 19:39:26
Cooper in my opinion is far better than worrall and is left footed also but price and wages would be an issue.



10 May 2019 19:44:33
Jboy it wouldn't be hard to be better than worrall. I would prefer experience over young potential👍.



10 May 2019 21:03:43
Supercooper

I never said anything about turning down an alleged bid of £16m however if we were fortunate enough to get that then I’d rather we bought another striker. It looks as though Lafferty might be on his bike as well. So we could be looking for 2 strikers.



10 May 2019 21:05:33
16m for morelos and bring in 4 £4m players to improve the squad, no brainer.



10 May 2019 21:54:22
Daz spending 4 million on 4 players doesn’t guarantee they will improve the squad, I hate when people say stuff like that . you could buy 4 duds and it’s 16mill done the drain.



10 May 2019 23:26:08
Bringing in an experienced CH will cost alot. If we sell Moralos abig chunk of the transfer fee should go towards a striker. Defoe is real quality but can't expect him to do it all, not when he's 36-37.



11 May 2019 08:32:42
If we are to replace Morelos how much are we going to have to spend?

We might be lucky and find another £1m gem but we’d need to be very lucky.

For me, Morelos should be here for another year unless we get a £20m+ offer for him.

We will have extra cash to spend and will clear out a big chunk of wage cost to let us add 2 or 3 quality players.

Keep our best players and add a few.



11 May 2019 10:32:38
anyone thinks that if we got 16M that we will spend 16M is really not thinking, that isn't the way business works. we want to spend little, find a player to bring on and look to sell him in a couple of years. we need return on investment. 4M unfortunately doesn't guarantee a good player that will make in Scotland.



12 May 2019 09:03:11
Gannett, how about the players we've brought in so far, that cost less than 4 million that have been performing? Albeit Grezda and barasic haven't, the irony is the cheapest/ free players have performed, I do reckon that Allan and Gerrard could between them pick out a few 4m players who would come up here and succeed.



10 May 2019 16:02:37
Did you see Brendan Rodgers interview regarding the Europa league final . he did seriously ask the question . BAKU. Where is it How do you get there . I don't know. . Lol.



10 May 2019 14:28:04
Looks like we may not play first europa toe to July 25.



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09 May 2019 23:34:01
mEXER IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG HERE.
When is everybody going to wake up to the real world, we cannot compete for top quality players in our league, let's face it, we are playing against teams from Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen who CAN SOMETIMES pull in decent crowds on decent pitches, but in the main the attendances are abysmal, the stadiums are even worse, yet we expect top quality players to take lower wages to come an play in what is basically a mickey mouse league, with basically joke teams making up numbers.

Any of you can check the attendances every week, and away from the 3 cities, the attendances are struggling to reach 4 figures. Would you be prepared to come here under those circumstances and for lower wages? It's a joke just like our international bunch of clowns. Rant over but I know i am right when English National league sides can get bigger crowds than our Championship teams.



10 May 2019 01:26:10
Mexer is 3.6M player never was too optimistic about it but you need to stop negative post about the Scottish League we know it's bad the press don't help it either.



10 May 2019 06:08:19
Scottish football has the highest attendance based on population in Europe= In Scotsman newspaper (2018)



10 May 2019 06:55:11
ritchie many players would sign for scottish clubs because
1: playing for rangers or celtic will guarantee european football.
2: playing for other clubs in the hope they may be scouted for the bigger clubs
3: many players move here in the hope of going down south to england
4: yes crowds are abysmal but our top 2 teams are amongst the highest in europe that would attract many players just to be able to play at ibrox or parkhead for some is special and hope they would be noticed because of all the coverage .
5. when walking into ibrox you are walking into the worlds most successful football club so if your playing for rangers or raith rovers you get that buzz they are all looking for just by being there. that will attract some.

no we cannot compete with the money there is down south but history shows that there have been top players playing up here and will continue to do so now the famous are back . steven gerrard has stated everything you have mentioned and wants to change that because he believes . rant over.



10 May 2019 07:24:35
I don’t buy into the crowds being the issue especially in Mexers case as the crowds in France are not great either.
Money talks is the bottom line unless you are looking to re launch your career and fancy a few seasons in Scotland to build it back up etc
It’s already been stated that EPL clubs can play games with not a single fan in the stadium and still be financially sound due to TV money etc

I agree the standard of football is very low but I’m very optimistic for the future
Our youth development is the best it’s been for a long time.
Don’t worry about other clubs - we pull massive crowds (more than most EPL) and we have a manager that players respect and want to play for.

A big season for us next season.



10 May 2019 08:31:40
Ritchie1.The real world is that the population of Scotland is 5.4 million and the population of England is 55 million so how on earth can our teams outwith the Old Firm attract larger attendances? Many teams in the English Championship are based in large cities - Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Nottingham, etc - and even in English League 1 there are teams based in Portsmouth, Bradford and Coventry, to name but three. When I see crowds of barely 5000 at Dens Park for Dundee home matches it makes me sad as I remember when Dundee used to get home crowds of between 30,000-35,000 back in the day when my Dad used to go and see them. Those days are gone forever unfortunately. The days of Rangers and Celtic signing really big-name players have also gone and we need to go for players further down the list who can do a job for us. Our world, like Celtic's, will be to strive to win the domestic honours every year and get a decent run in Europe. My rant over too!



10 May 2019 08:36:30
Your right Fraser 52.Its all about us f**k the other clubs. Worry about the famous and the famous only! Its all about what we do and are doing.



10 May 2019 09:28:34
Who p*ssed in your cornflakes Ritchie? It's nearly the weekend, crack a smile and have a pint.



10 May 2019 09:38:52
Its not really though is it coop / fraser? If we want to improve as a club, as a league and attract better players to improve the standard and quality of our game then we need all clubs to be doing well. How can our product improve when people like you's are so tunnel visioned that you fail to see the bigger picture. Without a marketable product to sell then how can you expect investment from tv companies, sponsors etc to help take us to the next level. Yes its all about us in the sense that we develop a youth system that produces players, we become self sufficient etc but unless we improve the above then there is only so far we can go as a club. If we want to be competitive in europe then the above is imperitive but if you want to be nothing in europe and a big fish domestically then keep up your tunnel visioned attitude👍.



10 May 2019 10:18:24
Coldo - My attitude isn’t tunnel vision.
I support my team and my focus is predominately on my team especially given the attitude towards us by others.
Improving the game in Scotland is difficult given the state of the governing body.
I simply didn’t agree with the first comment based on the facts about crowds etc
A big problem we have now is that when we did attract big names like Laudrup and Gazza the financial gap between us and England wasn’t as big as it is now.

To change things it has to come from grass routes level and as I said our association are a shambles at the moment.



10 May 2019 10:43:32
Grass routes is the solution fraser but to push on as a club and grow our game we need all clubs to be doing well. We can't grow the game in scotland on our own. If you think we can then it is tunnel vision👍.



10 May 2019 11:16:13
Might just be me but I think; Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, Livingston and Aberdeen (marginally) have all improved this season. At our best we have improved a lot but juggling 15 new players, with some disappointments, we were always going to be inconsistent and that has really hurt us in a year of coulda, shoulda beens. The great news is at the end of 2017/ 18 we had a poor team, now our starting base is a good team, by no means the finished article. onwards and upwards
almost :)



10 May 2019 11:18:39
There is a simple solution to the problems of the dearth of talent in Scotland. We spoke years ago about utilising the AJAX method in Scotland, but it came to nowt. Why don't we copy the ajax system properly, and employ dutch trainers and copy their system properly. Unfortunately it will have to come from the clubs themselves as the SFA (SWEET FU#K ALL) will do what they always do, NOTHING. As for the guard of honour nonsense, do you really think they will do it for us when we win the league next season, I don't think so. ONWARDS AND UPWARDS THE FAMOUS.



10 May 2019 12:01:32
Did we not try and copy the Ajax youth set up when advocat was with us?
We had a Dutch guy in charge of the youth development for a while.
It seemed to go down hill for a while after he left.
I’m much much more optimistic about our youth set up now
I just hope we manage to get some through into the first team.



10 May 2019 12:03:53
Coldo - 100% agree but my focus and support will always be with Rangers.



10 May 2019 13:45:00
By narrowing the gap on Celtic the product has improved. By having 2 teams in Europe the product has improved. Mexer just wanted to stay in France, just like Alves wished he stayed in Italy.

However the rest of the teams have had 5 years with us not available and did nothing in Europe. Scotland with a population of 5.5 million has 42 Clubs. England with 10 times the population has 420 clubs. Oh no actually it's 96. Therefore reduce the amount of clubs and have no more than 3 leagues.

Also Rangers and Celtic will always take care of themselves but we have 4 qualifiying rounds to reach Europe proper therefore why would players sign for us. Oh We can guarantee them qualifiying rounds at least 😀😀. Rangers and Celtic are a stepping stone to the bottom half of the EPL, if you do well there you go to the top half. European wise both old firm are not big clubs in a playing sense anymore. It will be awhile for that to happen again.



10 May 2019 13:49:45
We need to improve the standard of home grown talent throughout all clubs and the only way to do this is grass roots. 👍.



10 May 2019 14:27:15
Blue Pete, would agree Killie, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen have improved play this season but home gates have improved not one jot. Seen Killie few times this season and in front of 7 thousand is depressing. Seen bigger attendances to gers games in pub! Outside OF Scottish game in toilet. Don't know whether indifference, bad marketing or what. My own view is I can walk to Rugby Park, pay cheap seat, go pub after for 1 whisky, walk home and I'm 20 quid light. Killie football is not a product worth that. Time to think.



10 May 2019 18:16:08
We could follow Ajax example and
Play youth but would our manager
Really give youth a chance
We do sign Defoe Davis McCauley
Aye give youth a chance.



11 May 2019 02:32:47
Think you mean the infamous soup.



11 May 2019 02:35:02
mexer was never on for us. the cultural battle was never about football at all with him. money and potential was always going to be prioritized in a France.



11 May 2019 02:35:14
Celtic fan here but agree wholeheartedly with some of the points.

One thing I'll add is the cost of going to a game is ridiculous.

I've got two kids at the age of wanting to go and it can easy set me back upwards of £100-£150 to get them to a game.

Slightly better going to morton games as closer to homeand the cost is reasonable for them.

£25-£30 to watch motherwell v Dundee is an issue worth highlighting here.

Prices should reflect the product and then the stadia will fill.

Look at Germany for example, larger crowds, cheaper tickets, better product and you can have a bevvy at the games.

I concede the last point would be ruined here by morons.

Just my input, tell me to f-off if you wish 😂.



11 May 2019 13:54:17
yernawbaws, agree, the tickets are overpriced. however we are paying for the players we are bringing in. i know it won't happen because every team want to look after themselves naturally and the price for failure is unbelievable so the likes of celtic and rangers we won't take a chance on youth until the 3 points are already in the bag or its an absolute necessity through injury. scenario in a old firm, we play say 4 youths and get gubbed, the manager would get hammered for his line up and potentially out the door. why would that manager take the chance. even now you have the title, will lennon put youths in to play us on sunday doubt it and i'm not blaming lennon because the pressure is there to beat your rivals no matter what.



 
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