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12 Apr 2012 19:40:56
As a Dundee Utd fan I'm disgusted at the moronic element on here calling for a boycot to our ground to pay us back! Pay us back for what? Wanting our share of the cup gate receipts? It's our money, we have a right to it. If rangers face sanctions from the sfa for not paying it it is not our fault. I'm sure D&P chase every penny Rangers are owed, so what is the difference? Should we just say keep the money, you need it more? It gives the majority of the Rangers fans a bad name and celtic fans something else to laugh at you for!

Pay you back for what? do you forgret about the abandoned game a couple of seasons ago? when you charged us twice-fact.... selective memory of course.

It goes back to the game at tannadice when the game was postponed at half time and your club charged us all full price again for the replay, that's the joke.

The irony of these new rules being rushed through to inflict as much damage as possible on Rangers is that the same rules will be used to kill off Dundee utd when they are skint, which will be aided by Gers fans not going to your ground. Think about it ! And mabe you can ask your hate filled owner if he now regrets charging Rangers fans twice for one game. And as for your and other clubs owners allowing certain songs related to our problems played at half time to rub our noses in it, well thats just not cricket old chap. Fans banter is one thing, but when it comes from the club then thats just disrespectful. We value your opinion though, but misguided...Catweazle-talkingbone.

Who are you to talk about ethics. Dundee United have been ripping off the fans of the Old Firm for as long as I can remember with their increased prices at the gate and for tickets. I can rember the sign for £2.50 being covered up and a chalked £3.00 replacing it. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

I agree you should get paid your money but the debts are frozen in administration the same happens with hundreds of companies every year when they go into administration. Why should we be any different. I hope all the debts to the Scottish clubs are settled in full because after this season and total disgust and hatred that the majority of SPL clubs and their fans have showed my club you wont be getting another PENNY OFF ME.

Gers1986

Mate, I think the reason the club and indeed the RFFF are dragging their heels paying Dundee Utd this money is because of the shoddy way we were treated a couple of seasons ago when the rangers away fans were made to pay up again for a game that was abandoned at half time due to waterlogged pitch. Absolutely shocking!!

You can swivel for your money and accept Xp in the pound like everyone else!

Its cos you're owner is a nasty little man with a vendetta and cos we've heard from your fans, on many occasions, that you are happy we are in the s**t.

JD1872

Thats because the police ambulance stewards and others needed PAID again. FACT

Guess what poster , utd are down to the tune of 40k as rangers sent back two thousand tickets for our last visit ! Never mind if your club had never re charged

The irony of these new rules being rushed through to inflict as much damage as possible on Rangers
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The old rules had you starting back in DIV 3, you gotta be havin a laff.

The new rules are a compromise, one that stops RFC having 3 years of 10-15,000 attendances.

You know what, there has been so much to laugh at that i never got round to this one. so , LOL.

Agree with everythinng you say. rangers fans need to take of the blinnkers and look at the wider picture. financial doping by davis murray regime and incompetance by craig whyte brought you to the current situation. stand back and look at the wider picture - accept what was wrong and agree that if liquidated and newco arrive you should accept the punishmen of applying to play in sfl 3. the sentence must fit the crime.
support your club through this - get rid of your rotten history and eventually regain your dignity and place at the top table and make an effort to repay what is owed. this in my opinion is the only acceptable outcome for you. i think leage reorganisatin will only mean 2 year out of spl

I'm in full agreement here, I'll never set foot in tanadice after last seasons game got called off due to a water logged pitch , sky dictate and I know utd or rangers can't be blamed for the weather that day but your club and chairman charging full price for a re arranged game kicked the whole thing off !! And guess what News Flash our assets are frozen until we come out of admin , honestly don't remember Dundee, Livingston getting this much stick when they went into admin as ally said get your kicks in now you sad Arab !!

Its not always good to get what u wish for, we're gonna boycott u's an killie for the shameful way they sold 3 stands to septic but wouldnae giv us them for our party, revenge is sweet

Rangers fans need to mobilise and start turning the screw on the rest of the clubs in the spl. Whats the point in staying in the SPL if we are going to be hit with points penalties and see our TV money more than halved yet the same spl teams who want this will still expect us to turn up at their grounds. I would much rather we went down to the 3rd division and started again leaving teams like Dundee Utd & Kilmarnock with no sky money, no league sponsorship and no home games against Rangers. Let's see how long Utd last without this money! To survive they will have to sell at least 4 or 5 of their best players and will again be playing for nothing other than a top 6 spot in an irrelevant league

Everyone seems to have overlooked today's SPL meeting which was to change the 11-1 voting requirement. The meeting didn't take place.
Just watch what happens when it does on APR30 - the same day as the vote on yesterday's so-called Financial fair play regulations takes place.
Guarantee Rangers will agree to vote to change the 11-1 vote (at the request of the 10 non OF clubs)provided these clubs vote against the financial fair play regs, in particular the points & financial penalty deductions.
What would Lawwell think of that ?

So it's OK that debts are "frozen in administration" is it? Other clubs should say "Oh, that's fine. The debts are frozen in administration. Let's just let Rangers off the hook and welcome them back into the SPL again."

What do Rangers expect?

In which way does keeping Rangers in administration for yet another month help us ?. Then when the new owners are picked it could take another few weeks to check they are suitable, which pushes us closer to getting another points deduction. SPL doing Rangers a favour ? The rest want to keep us in the SPL for their own selfish reasons whilst shafting us for a few years with points deductions and possible 75%. HA give me the third div any time...Catweazle-talkingbone.

You are dealing with Rangers and they treat everyone including Dundee United with utter contempt!

There seems to be a small bu important point missed here on Utd. They chaged their own supporters twice for the game and the gate receipts were split. The addiotnal charge whilst wrong IMO was for the Policing and the excess I'm told (though not sure!) went to charity. Doesnt it seem more thatn a bit small minded to be trying to cast this up when it was a blatant non payment of cup gate receiots due in this case. you can see why they would be annoyed when an expensive squad was maintained for an entire month at a cost of over £1M when not paying £80k. Its embarrasing

Oh how the rest of the SPL will cope without there being a Rangers, even Celtic(reduced TV money, cant see any decent player wanting to sign if no OF matches).

They should be careful what they wish for.

Although I think at most Rangers will have 2 seasons of -10 points and thats it. If a 75% reduced income happens, I can see away games being boycotted by the vast majority.

To all those who keep calling us tax dodgers, cheaters etc... Can I ask have you ever bought anything from amazon, eBay traders, had a Vodafone contract and are you aware of the public sector ebt usage? Now that not benefit from tax dodging?
Pretty sure I've seen a few of the Celtic fan base in the barras too... Not sure there's much corporation tax paid there....

To last poster, why do you feel the need to bring up celtic like its our fault for all your problems, take a long hard look at yersels

Why all the hate? Rangers hAve given more to other premise league clubs in the last 20 years than could have been imagined. The Dundee united money will get paid! These other clubs would do well to remember which way their bread is buttered. No rangers- Celtic = no tv money = no good players. Quite simple really. I'm surprised by the number of other fans who forget this 140 year old rule. Too many peeps thinking of the OLD new firm me thinks

In reply to the eBay and Vodafone EBT users who dodge tax they haven't been marching about for years talking about dignity and imperialism while having Her Majesty picture hanging in their locker room while they were avoiding paying her majesty's taxes! Telling us all God Save The Queen while we pay for her and you sponge of her

Your wasting your time trying to explain the WATP brigade , they don't seem to grasp they caused this themselves and as usual they think they have the right to do what they like and go unpunished ,they don't seem to understand the concept of being honest or fair minded.

Tax payer.

28 bites, my best fishing trip yet!

Don't worry us other SPL clubs hate your club just as much, thing is we have good reason, as does every man woman and child, whom you have cheated thru your lack of paying your tax. We don't condone cheating it seems that many, although not all rangers fans do!
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Families didnt receive any less benefit from Rangers not paying tax etc. Nor did families pay more tax or national insurance as a result. So I dont really get how it affected anyone apart from HMRC, who have been ripping off every worker in the UK since their existence.

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Eh, if Rangers paid there 94m tax then, all the families around the country would have had to pay 94m less tax meaning more disposable income for every man woman and child? get it now? {Ed001's Note - no they wouldn't, clearly you don't understand how the tax system works.}

If Rangers showed the away games on the big screens at Ibrox, we could watch the away games that aren't live on the TV there. That way Rangers get the money and the other SPL teams can go and jump! party at Ibrox every away game.

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Don't you need permission from the host clubs? or do you just think that you can bully your way into away grounds, set up cameras and beam away. As most of your fans forget it takes two teams to make a game!!!

If Rangers win the big tax case that means we WERENT cheating...........if Rangers lose the big tax case it means we have to pay every single penny back.....so where is the financial gain if we have to pay it all back which also means were didnt cheat.

Honestly, im very surprised (NOT) that not one single person has picked up on this glaringly-obvious, staring-you-in-the-face FACT, but then again...you are all to busy queueing up to take a boot at Rangers whilst we are on the deck to bother about the facts!!!!

As for the boycott of the 'diddy teams' in the SPL....im all for it. They have been bumping the prices up for games against the Old Firm for YEARS now.....its come back to bite them on the erchie and they dont like that, no sir they do not like that one little bit.............TOUGH!!!!!!!!

Stu1972

Mate by the sounds of it I am well in the minority but as a true Rangers fan and one who has dignity I am embarrased that clubs like yours are suffering from the clowns who have been running our club.

I for one will be at Tannadice in future as I follow the team and not the current fad of turning on everyone and everyone except the people who really are to blame for our mess.

Dry you eyes mate if you can't take it don't dish it out. Dundee united have been nothing but unhelpful to Rangers for years. Why should we help your club when the knife is still stuck in our backs?

Rangers don't do walking away unless it involves debt, then they run for the hills.

Seriously Gers fans, the penalty of 2 seasons with 10 point deductions and 3 seasons loss of 75% of SPL cash is far better than starting again in Division 3. Any cash penalty would be dwarfed by the loss of gate receipts if RFC starts at the bottom, crowds and prices would plummet to reflect the measly opposition.
I estimate Rangers gate receipts would drop by 75% if they began in Div 3 and that is a lot more cash than the SPL penalty.

That is assuming the Ticketus deal is liquidated with the club.

It is so sad to see the position my Club are in just now and unbelievable that SDM and CW appear to be escaping the wrath of other Club's supporters who want to punish the players, fans and new owners for years to come.
These so called fans forget the biggest victims are the Rangers fans. We have been robbed of our Club by a man who used OUR money to fund the purchase of OUR Club.
And Tax? Very regretable situation. Really wish Rangers paid as much in Tax over the years as the rest...... Wait a minute...... We have and still do!

Rangers have given more to other premier league clubs in the last 20 years than could have been imagined.
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I disagree, the figure was imagined and it was negotiated by the OF in terms of market-profit share and voting rights.

Re: Stu1972
You have a point in that if you pay the tax due then there is no issue with HMRC.

However the 'cheating' bit comes from not paying the tax at the time and using that money to foot the bill for the big stars.

If the big stars were not getting that money they prob would not have joined.

Therefore by not paying tax the club (not supporters) were pulling a fast one.

Eh, if Rangers paid there 94m tax then, all the families around the country would have had to pay 94m less tax meaning more disposable income for every man woman and child? get it now? {Ed001's Note - no they wouldn't, clearly you don't understand how the tax system works.}

So if the goverment has a tax shortfall of £94m do they increase taxes the following years/years or not? {Ed001's Note - they had a tax shortfall anyway, what is happening at Rangers is not affecting that in any way shape or form. Or perhaps it has escaped your notice that the HMRC has been letting all sorts of big corporations off from paying billions of pounds in tax?}

So what you are sayng it's OK not to pay your taxes just because other companies are doing it, so all businesses, clubs the ordinary man on the street shouldn't have to pay either because it doesn't really matter. Where would that put us as a nation? We are in a bad enough situation as a nation as it is. {Ed001's Note - No, what I am saying is that this is not affecting things, until the likes of Vodafone and Phillip Green stop robbing us blind, this kind of thing makes little difference. And pathetic little whines from bitter fans of other clubs should get off their backside, stop wasting people's time with this just because it is a rival team, and start acting to stop ALL tax evasion etc. Until then you can all get off your high horse and stop pretending to care about an issue you clearly don't care about. Try joining organisations like 38 degrees and actually act on the overall issue, rather than just trying to be all moralistic because you dislike Rangers.}

Ed I think you are losing the run of yourself with these last comments.

You are correct that the tax issue is massive and widespread and if all taxes were paid the entire country would be so much better funded.

What I cannot agree with though is the implication that if other people are not paying their taxes then we are not really that bad because what we have not paid is minimal in comparison.

I think we have to get past and close this whole sorry chapter. It will take time but I want us to come out of this with our heads held high rather than being not as bad as the worst offenders. {Ed001's Note - I am not saying that, what I am saying is that people should stop wasting time trying to pretend they have some kind of moralistic objection to it. If they want to get all moralistic about it, they can join an organisation fighting to put a stop to it. I bet they don't bother moaning about their mate doing cash in hand jobs, which is exactly the same principle. They are just trying to point score and it is pathetic. We ALL know Rangers should pay all they owe, if possible, but to say kids aren't getting an education because it etc is just downright lies.}

Can't stop laughing at the Gers fans kicking and screaming , spitting venom , blaming every club in the spl for THEIR clubs greed and dishonesty !
Boycot DUFC if you want but you will just look like childish and stupid !
You should direct all this anger and venom at the ones who put you in this mess SDM and in a smaller way CW !
How is this boycot nonsense in any way going to help the the problems your club is facing !
Answer is it wont ! So why dons the true fans come up with something constructive NOT destructive in your clubs hiour of need ?
Tit for tat no NO one benefits ! Just look like silly little children ! So JOG ON nuggets

Why do people come on to our site and say the new rule changes are for the benefit of rangers, the sfa are not thinking about rangers. without rangers in the spl it would quickly die. i for one never wanted liquidation but if it happens i would prefer to go to the 3rd division and let the other teams rot. we couldnt play at ibrox because how much does it cost to run ibrox on match days with crowds in 3rd division not feasable and we wouldnt have 40,000 at home games, at least monies would be going to some to lower divison teams that need money and with less hatred towards our team and could be a quicker solution with all the points deduction and money with held. All spl fans say we should do the proper thing and so do i , we should put it up the sfa and go to the 3rd division and wait for other spl teams to follow us.

You cant boycott if you dont exist

Your off your head spl WILL survive !
How can all spl end up in 3rd Division
What about all the other teams in all the other division ?

Oh sorry I forgot the world will end WHEN Rangers Die !
Ps SDM helped Airdrie into liquidation and the quote was. Business is Buisness now that apples to the dodgers!

Why is the answer always IF we get liquidated we go to the 3rd and the rest of the clubs can rot? These clubs have not got rangers into trouble, the egotistical SDM got you into this trouble trying to buy success in europe. Don't go blaming them for your clubs misfortune, man up, take it on the chin, smile and always look on the bright side of life....................

Dundee United should be grateful, if it wasn't for Rangers spending they would have gone bust 10 years ago.

Son if your waiting on Rangers fans coming to your place you are in for a long wait,get used to empty stands.

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