Rangers Rumours 12462

12 Apr 2012 15:12:28
Explain this too me all spl changes need both celtib and rangers to agree so how come they can change the rules now.

Also any major points penlty will cause rangers to be relegated each season for nxt three years so any newco may as well start in div 3.

I think hmrc are behind this otherwise they will liquidate rangers and sell the assests, meanibg no newco

How would we end up being relegated every season for the next 3 seasons?? We have managed to finish 2nd with a 10 point deduction in this sorry excuse for a league. If we hadnt blown the 15 point lead we had we would still have won the league even with administration.

The 75% reduction in prize money needs 11 to vote for it. rest of proposals only needs 8 members to vote for.

Maybe previous poster is thinking that the big players wont be there next season It will be a whole new team one way or another

You would have to buy 3rd division players and pay crap wages. No decent player will play in that league.

If your auntie was a man she'd be your uncle. We did blow a 15 point lead so lets stick with reality rather than fantasy. The vote doesn't need Rangers & Celtic to agree it just needs one of them that's why they talk about changing to a 9-3 voting structure from an 11-1 structure which we have at present. The current set up requires the other 10 to get either of the OF on board to win a vote.

Im sure that Ibrox and Murray park arent parts of Rangers assets, pretty sure Whyte moved them to a seperate company. Cant clarify that though.

Ironically, all the rules might not receive the number of votes needed to pass them in any event, seems some of the SPL clubs don't believe the sanctions go far enough and it doesn't discourage insolvency as an escape, so should be interesting.

Wonder if behind the scenes the SPL guys are using this as negotiating tool to change the voting and TV rights distribution. Just a coincidence that they've added those two subjects to the agenda for the 30th April meeting as well?

Nothing to do with HMRC, that part of the OP was way off the mark. Anyway I can't see Rangers being relegated. Quite normal for them to finish more than 60 points or so above the relegated team, with 90 points or so. Even with a 30 point deduction Rangers will still be top 6.

The 11-1 rule could be scrapped if we're liquidated which is,why these clubs are trying to liquidate us.

I would like the OP to consider the financial and football reality of Rangers starting in Div 3. What would the average crowd be, what would the average ticket price be and what would the average player be paid ?
Plus no Europe, no TV money and no major sponsorship for 3 years.
Add it all up and try and downsize Ibrox and Rangers to accomodate this low turnover, its actually not possible.

Rangers would be back in administration in 2013.

Im sure that Ibrox and Murray park arent parts of Rangers assets, pretty sure Whyte moved them to a seperate company. Cant clarify that though.

I have no doubt that is what he intended. Murrey went part way down this route and I believe still holds the freehold for murrey park with rangers as lease holders. I think the move by HMRC to bring forward liquidation halted that. Had Whyte done the same with Ibrox, he might have gotten away with it or he might have gone to jail theft, the law is bizzarly unclear on that.

CW has secured the assets against the Ticketus deal, if the club is liquidated then the assets will be sold by CW for 30 million and the Ticketus money returned. No way did Ticketus give CW 30 million knowing the BTC circumstances without a guarantee, and no way would CW agree to a guarantee without securing it against the assets.

Its all perfectly legal.

I think we need to all calm down and draw breath.

These proposals are for liquidation. We will not be liquidated.

So chillax on the rules.

The issue of timing is still to be discussed mind you.

FK THE SFA/SPL

CW has secured the assets against the Ticketus deal

Not according to Duff and Phelps. This looks like a case for highly paid lawyers to debate for years

Have you read Dicken's Bleak (big)house

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