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12 Apr 2012 12:27:41
To all these posts saying Rangers will only be deducted 10 points next season if form a Newco and access SPL…Please re-read the proposed rule.

“Under the SPL's new proposals, clubs who enter administration would be docked at least 15 points instead of the current penalty of 10.
If passed, clubs who suffer an insolvency event would incur a penalty of the greater of 15 points or a third of their total of points from the previous season.”

Rangers current points = 63
So even if Rangers lose every game til seasons end, the deduction = 21pts
For every 3 points Rangers accumulate til end season another 1pt will be added to the deduction.

So realistically we will be looking at a 25pt deduction next season.

If it’s a newco, its gotta be SFL Div 3 for me. Help out Scottish Football by bringing much needed revenue to smaller clubs through gate receipts etc. Only then can we redeem ourselves.

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Rangers in Div3 is not a viable proposition, the structure of the company could not be downsized sufficiently to accomodate average attendances of 10-15,000, plus the loss of SPL and TV money. It is unrealistic to expect large numbers of fans to turn up at Ibrox to watch Junior football for 3 years in a recession.
Prices would have to drop reducing income even more, its just not possible.


I for 1 don't see this happening as the spl have already gave out there punishment for us entering admin so if the spl tried this then uefa or the european governing body would step in !!


It will only be a 10 point deduction, it would only be about 21 if we have a second insolvency event


Hard luck then !if you cant do the time,dont do the crime.simples. dd


Rangers are not guilt free, but the sanctions being discussed by the SPL are badly timed, over the top and seem to ignore the fact that the biggest gates smaller clubs achieve is against the Gers.
Reminds me of the story of the boy who killed the Golden Goose.


Clearly have not read the report yourself have you?

If rangers were to either come out of administration and go back in over the summer or dont come out of it at all by the 3rd August (day before season starts) then we would be deducted a third of this seasons points total.

If rangers come out of Administration via a CVA then they start next season as normal

If Rangers come out of administration via a "newco" then we would start the next 2 seasons with 10 point deductions automatically.

Point to note if we went into administration at any point next season, even after a "newco" is formed, we would still be hammered with an additional deduction of a third of this seasons points


This article explains clearly about the new rules. Seems we would have til August 4th to get out of admin. IF the PROPOSED changes get through the vote...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9198055/Rangers-administrators-postpone-preferred-bidder-announcement-due-to-proposed-SPL-rule-changes.html

The proposed penalties cannot be backdated but they would apply to Rangers if the club does not emerge with a CVA before next season opens on Aug 4. Should Rangers still be in administration on that date, they would open their campaign with a minimum deduction of 21 points and a maximum of 26 points, if they win their remaining five games this season.


You think 50,000 fans are gonna turn up at Ibrox to watch Div 3 football? Think again fella, wont happen. Lucky to get 10,000. Wont help Scottish Football at all, if anything, it will be the catalyst towards the death of Scottish football.

Rangers and Celtic TOGETHER are needed by the Scottish Authorities.


"If a club remains in administration going into a new season, they will only be forced to start on minus ten points. No greater sanction will apply unless they are subject to a new Insolvency Event." It appears you don't read!


I am an Ayr Utd fan and I think these new proposed changes are shocking! Whilst I agree with the 10 points Rangers were deducted, I do not agree with with these new proposals. Scottish football should be trying to HELP clubs in distress not adding to the problems. We should take time to consider any new changes instead of these knee-jerk reactions. Changes should only be made after the season has ended.


Surely if you liquidate then you are a new club? So they cant take a third of your previous season as it is actually your first ever season?! As you dont keep your history lol


If Rangers are playing Div 3 football and winning every game, the crowds WILL come to Ibrox. I mean, where else would they go? And what's wrong with seeing us score a bunch of goals against the wee teams?


Lucky to get 10,000? i am sure no other team in the 3rd division gets that kind of attendance and of course we would have to downsize but we will still be strong enough to walk that division. We would also win the 2nd & 1st division and in 3 years we would be back to the SPL. Each year Rangers would get higher attendances and the team would get stronger. You also need to think about how much weaker the other teams in the SPL will become if Rangers leave the SPL. No sky money, no sponsorship and no Rangers away support. The league would collapse and contrary to what the dhims tell us they would suffer to. It's not ideal going into the 3rd division but it's not the armageddon some people think


Winning will only bring more deductions. Does that mean we should hope to lose the remainder of our games.


Why all the comments about Rangers only getting 10,000 to 15,000 crowds in Division 3, of course you's wont...you dont do walking away remember


I say stuff the spl and celtic, they reckon they dont need us anyway, lets move to the english lower leagues and work the way up, thats where the money is


If Rangers are playing Div 3 football and winning every game, the crowds WILL come to Ibrox.
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I simply do not believe Rangers fans will pay full prices or turn up in great numbers to watch East Stirling ( twice).

Rangers is structured to be a big company, it is not possible to downsize it to suit a small turnover. The bills at Ibrox and Murray Park do not shrink because there are only 10-15,000 fans turning up once a fortnight and paying half prices.
Rangers will not put out or pay for a SPL team to beat Divsion 3 rivals, the football will stink and the crowds will reflect the quality of football.

Rangers is not GRETNA or LIVINGSTONE.


Its a long time since a listened to so much pish die



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