Rangers Rumours Archive February 06 2012
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06 Feb 2012 23:09:10
after watching the bbc a light has come on in my head does Whyte want 24 million to go away?
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Na, he's probably banked it in an offshore account. It will be his nest egg if Rangers go t1ts up and it can't be touched. Cost him Ł1 to buy Gers - Profit Ł24 Million in the bank. Simples!
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No, just the Ł18m of Ranger's assets when the club goes into administration.
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Not that much. What's the difference between the 24m advance on season tickets and the 18m that was owed to lloyds?
Where is it? Set of accounts would be handy.
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The more you look at it Murray was unhappy that fans did not come in, lloyds just want anyone to take this utter mess out of there hands in come Whyte like the previous poster says i,ll take 6m to get things moving.but a question please is it liquidation?.............les
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He's lining his own pockets in any way, shape or form that he can, tucking the cash away and when the club enter admin he'll dissapear into the sunset. The guy is a vulture. Unless the Man City owners fancy throwing some loose change our way we're finished. Nobody would touch us while Whyte is sniffing around with his underhand tactics so it's going to get worse before it gets better :-(
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This word liquidation keeps popping up more and more! Defo going to have to be berwick rangers or rankgers
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He is either robbing us blind or stashing money away to start rangers from fresh. He is a crook but sometimes you need to break the law to make good, if he is stashing the cash so the taxman can't get it then do be it! F**k HMRC is my view!
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Wow never thought id see a rangers fan say f*** the q**** and her servants.
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Whyte does seem a shifty git, but why would he deliberately ruin Rangers ? He must have known this would be a public affair, other than the season ticket money he could've done this to any company and no one would ever know, I hope he has got Rangers best interest at heart although the signs aint good.
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Funny isn't it, how so many tims worried about her majesty, when it suits them? ger1952
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06 Feb 2012 22:53:51
if all these stories keep getting told about whyte and are not ment to be true then he needs to grow a pair an sue them for the lies am sure i would if it was me if he doesnt thats telling us sumthing
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Ally just leave please, cant take any more, I would rather rangers closes now and we can still remember our great club as it once was
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Their has to be an element of truth in what the bbc are reporting. the whole situation with regards to craig whyte is mystifying and having watched the newsnight investigation i am more fearful about who is in charge of our club.
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Did Mr Whyte not say he'd sue then BBC for the documentary last year? No action taken. For the latest revelations about the season ticket money being turned into football's equivalent of a payday loan (even he uses the term 'rollover') not even a threat.
In fact for all the banned journos can anyone think of any legal action being taken? I can't.
The common factor in each response to a Whyte revelation is it is an attack on the club. This won't deflect attention forever.
Worried? Me too....
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Wake up for pity's sake Whyte wont sue anyone, he is spinning the fans along until the opprotune moment to put the club into liquidation. If we no one thing about him it is that he will ruthlessly pursue a profit. Cash is all that metters
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Why would he sue over the reports of the advance season ticket sales - he admits this is true.
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Sit tight, the truth will come out soon. there are a lot of people doing their homework on mr whyte and we will know everything one way or another.
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Everybody needs to back off and wait and see what whyte does after tax case. The club was up for sale for a long time and no other person in there right mind had balls to come and take this on...he has taken it on and being slaughtered in the process. Surely having a dodgy character like cw in charge is perhaps a good thing if rangers lose tax case as he is a person who knows the ins & outs of this as much as anyone. Nobody else was wanting to takeover club in such a mess...and he has so give him time. Do people think we can continually fail to make it to champs league and still have high wage budget & sign players with transfer fees when we are already in financial dire straights? Wake up folks and get behind team this is a prob that aint gona go away overnight unless some rich russian comes in and that aint gonna happen
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For the record i dont trust whyte 100% but if somehow rangers pull through this situation and it turns out that he was doing whats best for the long term future of the club and isnt a crook, I personally wouldnt blame the guy if he said f**k you to the fans and f***ed off. Everyone is pulling the trigger on the guy before anything has even happened.
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Not saying Whyte is an angel but the press can smell blood and are closing in on rangers. Next week it will be another story about Whyte or Rangers with big headlines. Whyte may not have sued yet he may be waiting for tax case to be resolved and if we win the go after each and every nay sayer in court nobody knows what is going to happen with the tax case or the club the press just want to put the worst case stories out there. sectarian stories about rangers will return to the front page if we win the tax and Whyte starts to sue the press. DM had a good relationship media for many years now he is gone the media dont care who they tar and feather in the name of a GOOD 5 MINUTE VIDEO to show there kids.
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If you had bothered to read rangerstaxcase instead of dismissing it as timmy lies you would have known all this stuff months ago.
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Swiss toni has left a trail of wreckage behind him if it was you or me we would be doing time, garlar 07
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Tax case result has no bearing whatsoever on whether he lied in court. Are there any more straws to clutch at?
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06 Feb 2012 21:23:52
The worst signing ally mccoist made this season was to let davie weir go. The only leade we had in our whole squad. Even if he wasn't gonna play his experience for the younger guys to get through this situation in priceless. Mckay is and australian international and can't get a game in a dire midfield.there is definately more to it than meets the eye.bit like commons and lemmon.
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Disagree about Weir mate, why pay the guy reportedly Ł14,000 a week just as a father figure for the young players, I do however agree with you on McKay, guy hasn't been given a chance, pretty poor really.
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Mccoist is a liar, whyte is a crook, get them both out. Celtic managed to rid themselves of the filth, surely Glasgow rangers can, if not, we deserve to fold
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Weir on 14 grand a think your wrong there am quite sure it was 5 grand a week can you confirm this ed {Ed014's Note - It wasn't 14.You will be nearer the mark.
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You calling McCoist filth?!?!?! Your definitely not fan then, fans wouldn't stick a label like that on a club legend!
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I think McGregor is the captain we dont have!
His passion, aggression and loyalty (so far) is the closest thing we have had to Barry. When the team arent doing well he is moan and motivating the team, the downfall is he is not outfield to get in their faces!
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I agree , letting Weir go means that the heating allowance will no longer come in.
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How is that a signing and not just a decision
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No leaders? Forgive me but I thought we had the 100times capped American Captain in our defence?
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Yeah having bocanegra is good for experience but he knows next to nothing about playing for glasgow rangers.and he knows nothing about winning title and playing for a team who is expected to wi every game.each team he has played for have been average at best.
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To the above post how many of the players at rangers knew what it was like to win titles, and how many played for average teams, just about the lot of them.
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06 Feb 2012 21:22:37
where are these potential free agents ally is talking about??
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God knows...we don't want them, they are free agents for a reason - namely most of them are complete mince, and they're is enough of them at Ibrox already.
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I take the players that are free agents on trial and possibly Riordan
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That's all it is mate, just talk, no1 is coming. We shud use my money we hav on a new manager
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06 Feb 2012 21:14:03
get ally out now he has a worse record the le guen
if it was any1 else every1 would be shouting for his head he aint good enough as a manager outt of europe twice in a month an has lost a 15 point lead he is a disgrace get billy davies in now
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Who will replace him or are you suggesting Gordon Smith. Blue4ever
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Realised you said Billy Davis, sorry. If that's his replacement forget it, joke of a manager anywhere he has been. Blue4ever
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Leave ally alone,yes the results have been rubbish of late but super is working with his hands tied,mourinho woudnt turn this around,and also where are we gettin the cash for a new manager,GET A LIFE
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We don't need fans like you tbear so do one! It's time to get behind ally and the team! You sound like a Celtic fan.
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Cmon fellow bears stick with it watp remember helicopter sunday
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Ally had the hardest job on the planet m8 an whyte paid his pound .. Open your eyes to what's going on ... Were paying bills weekly and your wanting another management team ffs we can't afford to pay his team off ... Players out the door at every chance ... That last lot pocketed the lot from the pot and your having a go ! I can remember being at clydebank the game in the 80's and this is bad .. Hoping with a bit of luck that lot get whacked by H.M.F.C today. Not having a go I'm just being honest with you ...
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Just remember, PLG was an “experienced“ manager, and well ally this is his first managerial job, to be fair he should have atleast left rangers and went and managed to gain experience then MAYBE come back. Just my opinion guys. (Loyal Bear)
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I agree ally must go. Maybe not Davies but ally has not got it. His hands may be tied financially but doesn't explain lack of tactics or inability to make a change
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The same billy davies that took forrest to the play offs twice on a shoe string budget (look at forrest now), whilst mccoist stands there with his arms folded staring into the abyss with no clue. All this whilst we get beat off st johnstone, kilmarnock, falkirk. MCOIST IS NO MANAGER, HE CANNOT MOTIVATE THE TEAM...........!
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Billy davies got derby an preston to the play offs as well oh aye bad manager he is with no cash to spend reel ur heids in be4 its 2 late ally is not good enough love the clown who said i sound like celtic fan any celtic fan i speak to wants ally to stay just love thick people
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06 Feb 2012 21:03:56
Does anyone actually know when the result of the HMRC investigation will become public knowledge??
Hear rumours all the time but is there any time constraints involved?
Paul {Ed014's Note - March from what I know.
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If it goes wrong we can appeal and this will be june/july {Ed014's Note - If it lost in March HMRC get money right away.Rangers need to appeal to get the money back plus interest.
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06 Feb 2012 20:44:02
Heard we to play Chelsea at the bridge in may for frank lampards testimonial, anyone else heard this? Ed?
Muir bear {Ed014's Note - There is nothing official.
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Yeah i heard that aswell
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Yeah heard he wants to say goodbye before Rangers go under.
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06 Feb 2012 20:26:23
Very interesting interview with Craig
m.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday/sport-columnists/aidan-smith/interview_craig_whyte_chairman_of_rangers_fc_1_2098205
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Believable interview imo
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06 Feb 2012 20:03:52
Everyone is slagging whyte i wouldn't give Ally money either don't think he has got it as manager,after our European results who can blame him.
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What about walter smith v kaunas?
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What about Walter smith and Manchester?
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Malmo,then Maribor in the one season,two very poor teams Walter got us to UEFA cup final with an average team,he could motivate players,we had a bit of dig,what do we have now?
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I would agree that I don't think ally has what it takes as a manager. But if whyte sees him as long term then he's got to back him with whatever little money is available but if not then he's aswell getting rid the now n giving the new man the rest of the season to work out what he needs n who to keep etc. There's got to be a big change
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The level of money ally has been given is shocking,what kind of players do you think we should be attracting with that mate!!,this isnt the nineties now with big name signings,this is whats wrong with a fair amount of gers fans,they are glory hunters
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Who would replace him? Sallymight be a naive manager but at least hes still there, no one would touch that job with a barge pole.
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Agree ally is worse than plg
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How can you judge a manager on half a season when the signings that he has brought in were clearly not of his doing. Ally has brought one signing in in aluko... that is all.... he wanted sandaza, goodwillie along with at least ten other players and got none of them. paul le guen got every target he went for.... so you can judge him on these terms.... however we can judge him on some of his selections bar the old firm at parkhead were i though he suprised every rangers fan with the line up, however he fails to notice things like.... playing edu every week, playing bartley at RB, and a personal gripe of mine... applauding aplayer when what he has dont on the pitch has been absolutely appauling.... he rates edu, whittaker, and davis as a captain!
he does need time... a lot of it.... he should be given funds regardless of what situatuation we are in.... by not giving ally funds he has cost himself more money.... europe, cups, having to sell jelavic.... whyte and smith are the ones to blame here.... ally must be tearing his hair out!
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Things are bad, but we still have a chance with the league. the team has hit the bottom, but the bulk of the team we have is the same team that won the league the last 3 years... the last 3 years celtic have been telling us how much better they are after a run of good results... but time and time again, the wheels come off and they drop points.
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06 Feb 2012 19:53:49
Newsnight BBC2 11 o'clock tonight.
An insight into the shady wee ersehole owner of Rangers. Allegedly perjured himself in court and is a proven liar to boot.
If it's "in Whyte you trust" then hell mend you all when the s**t hits the fan. (Friday it is rumoured)
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Allegedly prejured ?. ok instead of just repeating what you hear, tell us what the lie was.
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The celtic broadcasting corporation at it again, stirring it up again! because we're not talking to them, they're upset. this individual who keeps surfacing, going on about the charge which he laid against Mr Whyte which apparently could lead to 2 years in jail, if there was sufficient evidence to proceed don't you think there would have been action by now. As that didnt seem to work, he's looking for anything else he can trump up. maybe someone should start looking into his background and seeing whether hes whiter than whyte
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To true mate hidden agenda I thing.see Whytes Had enough off has put his lawyers onto them lets wait and see.Remember what they did with Ally
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Well done for that last bit.Bravo.Superb.
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"Allegedly prejured ?. ok instead of just repeating what you hear, tell us what the lie was."
Check it yourself.
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The thing is they could be doing us a favour we just dont know what a terrible state Murray and loyds bank have put us in
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He's put his lawyers onto them? what...like the last time? lol
don't make me laugh, there is no agenda by the BBC, the only agenda is by the scottish press and radio for continually refusing to publish and acknowledge the extent of the problems at ibrox for fear that it was going to upset the team....now that the team has had a negative 19 point swing, they have come out and spoke about things which were reported on a certain website over 1 year ago!
oh, and whyte probably can't get a lawyer who would take any of his cases on judging by his record
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So taco if you are going to reply to posts at least answer the content in its entirety no made up agenda against Ally?or is it just selective parts to suit yourself and your likes.
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06 Feb 2012 19:51:24
Whyte lying in court next wat else Wil come out in the next few weeks I dread 2 hear + heard a Celtic fan saying the treble will b easy.
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06 Feb 2012 19:41:45
we were short of players yesterday so how can let fleck & hutton go on loan
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Becuase Fleck was not good enough and hutton is behind Edu and David. I would get him in there as he can not do any worse.
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06 Feb 2012 19:21:10
What difference would jelavic made yesterday? None, we never created anything. Yeh we need a striker but most of all we need a leader on the park. Some 1 who would get the troops up for it! No disrespect to Davis think he's a brill player but he's no weir or fergusonThe communication durin the match was awful from defence right threw the team.
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Why o why o why do people think Davis is brillant? He cant pass the feking ball!
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06 Feb 2012 19:09:36
Arne friedrich, derek riordan, stephen appiah, zlatan muslimovic, kris boyd (still hasnt signed with portland) are just some of the quality players available for nowt. Get a move on whyte and back ally!
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Muslimovic can bolt he left after a days training
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Boyd a quality player. ur off ur head pal!
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They gonna play for free mate?artybhoy
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Derek Riordan would never play for Rangers after playing for Celtic, plus he was on trial at Kilmarnock I think so hardly good enough for Rangers.
Stephen Appiah just signed for Serbian side FK Vojvodina.
Boyd hardly good enough for Rangers, Portland Timbers arent even in MLS.
Only two there we should go for are Muslimovic, may not be a bad player considering Sunderland were offering him a trial. And the German guy Freidrech, but I think we should also go back in for Enar Jaager as cover for Whittaker now that we have some money and wages have been freed up through the sales of Jelavic, Ortiz, Fleck, McMillan etc.
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Fleck, ortiz not sold. Muslimovic told yous lot to forget a contract. You cant outbid Hibs ffs.
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The portland timbers are in the mls
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06 Feb 2012 19:06:03
I have a cousin who lives in berlin and he has told me that german international full back arne friedrich is available on a free. He would do a great job at right back until end of season. Just saying hes available, not saying this is a rumour.
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We are in dyer need of a right back as Whittaker has been really poor this year and Bartley looks really uncomfortable in that position and to be honest I don't think broadfoot is good enough period
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Once again rangers have no money for wages, there will be no free agents signing just more misinformation to hide the truth
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I've seen him a few times playing for germany solid right back would do a job but i fear we need to put every penny we have got to one side just in case the tax case goes tits up!
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06 Feb 2012 18:50:22
Whyte has released a press statement on club website regarding a documentary to be shown on bbc tonight
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Yea probably no coment. why doesn't everybody get of his back, the man is doing a fine job and credit should be given when its due, mean how much do use want for a pound?
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What time is it on ? and what channel ?
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11 o'clock on the beautiful bbc2 newsnight special. yaaassss?
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Where is the Craig whyte thing on the website mate?, and what programme is being shown on BBC?..
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I've read the statement and I can't see any reference to a documentary being aired by the bbc tonight? It does however refer to a past documentary. It does refer to further comments made by the bbc today, but that I can't comment on as I haven't seen tv today. Unless there was anything on the evening news? If anyone can add to that? Jay
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Dont watch this anti Rangers stuff, I suspect the BBC might not be attacking Whyte for the love of our club. So what are their agendas ?. And if you have read anything printed by that bitter wee sweetie Douglas fraser, it is clear how much he loves Celtic, and how much he hates Rangers. Whyte probably is no saint, but lets look into the dealings of other chairmen and see what skeletons they have in their cupboard. Lets face it Celtics cupboards a bit empty these days, mabe thats what all these attacks are really all about. I'm not saying trust in Whyte, but never trust the BBC or Douglas fraser. Nivbear.
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Nivbear your clearly nothing more than a bigoted plamf with one shade.specs. fans Luke you make me ashamed of my club!
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Why don't they do a documentary on the Moriarty tribunal (and NO, it's nothing to do with Sherlock) GER1952
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Explain why im a bigot ?. And whats a plamf ?. Look m8 i'm concerned about those throwing mud at Rangers at the moment, and thats my opinion, If you want to throw the bigot word about willy nilly without putting any thought into it, then that is your perogative.
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Prerogative that should have said before someone corrects me.
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06 Feb 2012 18:00:36
ally says hes still looking for players to come in (free agents) im sure i read that players from egyptian club al ahly have quit the club after the tragic events due to riots im sure if this is true we might get some decent players from there ...bigt
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Im not sure they will come back into football so soon after what happened but violence like that would never happen in scotland i would agree is there a striker amongst them ?
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Ally is a liar, and am not going to set foot in ibrox again
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Sign this Guy Mohamed Barakat(Striker) hes scored 32 goals if hes gave up football try and get him back playing football and sign for Rangers this guy will be Jelavic's replacement .We need to do something cos yesterday display against Dundee United must not be repeated that was not Rangers out there yesterday i dont know who they were but that was shocking
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Ahly stars Mohamed Bakarat and Emad Meteb have vowed that their club "will not play football again" after the violence. ,,quotes from bakarat
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Think you,ll find,if it looks like s**te,and smells like s**te,its probably s**te,artybhoy
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Aye
Rafael Scheidt.
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That's a full squad we could get
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06 Feb 2012 17:53:42
Can't believe some of the comments about Celik after only 45 minutes of football. What else could he have done. We were not good enough to give him the ball so what can he do.
You could have put Nani in that position yesterday and it would not have made a difference.
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Too tru, celick will come good, he needs to be played in his correct position, and he needs the duds round about him to play like a team with a purpose, ally needs to walk tho to give whyte a boot up th ar$§, George graham could work with these duds and make them a team
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Not true.
In a game as stretched as that (for large parts of the game Dundee Utd were breaking but also holding quite a high line because David Healy is as slow as a week in jail) a decent winger could have been having a field day.
His touch was appaling, he never once looked like going past a man and he completely lost his man all the time. He certainly wasn't as rapid as some would have you believe either, one example being when he was chasing Dixon in the build up to their 2nd goal. He wasnt even gaining on him.
Dundee United's main attacking threat was their left back Dixon, mainly because Celick never tracked him.
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Come on bears have a wee bit of faith and to help you here is a song to sing
We are Celik supporters, faithful through and through LOL Timalloy
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He is a left sided player playing on the right. give him a break
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A have seen babys been born quicker!! Laughing stock of Scotland?
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Well he has had the same playing time as McKay and Bedoya just about and folk on here have judged them. He looked awful.
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How did he look awful. He touched the ball about 5 times so how can you say he looked awful.
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He had 5 touches trying to control one pass!
He may just have been having a really bad day but it doesnt look like he has any talent.
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Celik is a Nani,........DH
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Cos the 5 times he had the ball he looked rotten..and as sumbdy above correctly pointed out didnt track his man back, several times !!
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Nani would have f***ing smashed it, rangers are sh** because money has not been spent wisely ie Weirs contractcost money every month and cost to break.
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Give the guy a break, he came on against Hibs and looked skillfull, quite strong and quick as we were attacking most of the time.
Against Utd he was clearly off the pace which to be fair to the guy his season stopped in October and he was thrown in on opposite side with no striker movement to aim for, I for 1 will make a judgement after he gets a run of games and his fitness up.
Seem to remember another Swde set up Hibs with a goal when playn for the jungle jims on his debut and it was Henriks too lightweight, pish etc etc and we all know how that turned out
Stop moaning, start supporting!
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I thought we did put a nani there , oops sorry just sounds like nani
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06 Feb 2012 17:30:22
Matt mckay had offers from saudi arabia, south korea and a return to australlia. His agent said he is staying and he will fight for a place in the team, which wouldnt threat his international position.
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Hes away back to brisbane roar on loan
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No he isnt... dont talk crap
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06 Feb 2012 16:38:48
Heard a few people talking about Daniel Cousin coming back? Anyone heard anything about this?
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Feckin hope not,guy has a terrible attitude,and he must be nearly 38
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Hope not he couldn't wait to get out the last time
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He would turn us down even a deal was agreed.
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He'd certianly do a job, though he's 35 now. I'll be surprised we're able to lure him backk to Ibrox on 3500 a week
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Bears, found out some seriously bad inside info Today, apparently big story coming out either tomorrow or Wednesday in the Daily Liar regarding the renewed and new contracts of 4 of our better players (Naismith, Davis, MacGregor and Bocanegra), watertight source who hasn't been inaccurate with info so far has told me these 4 players contracts aren't owned by RFC but are solely owned by a subsidiary of Wavetower so as when/if e
We go belly up Mr Whyte can cash in on 4 quality international players..... I'm getting worried guys, how much more can we be expected to take
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Best to wait and see if it does happen. Can't see players agents agreeing to that never mind the players.
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Impossible..
player contracts cannot be owned buy 3rd party in scotland
different rules in sout america and italy
rangers football club hold the registration rights to these players
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Daniel Cousin is like 36 or somthing nah no thanks
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He's 35 now but if Cousin genuinely wanted to come back & was fit I'd take him til end of season. Celtic were terrified of him. Ask McManus or Caldwell !!!!
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How many f***ing sources are there in the Poundland arena, evry second poster has a inside source whose never been wrong.
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Naismith's new extended contract was signed in december 2010, so what youre saying that a contract signed 6 months before whyte took control is now held elsewhere. anymore lies you want to add
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06 Feb 2012 15:28:57
it has been going around that tennents are getting a bit peeved at whyte as they paid a huge chunk of sponsorship cash up front (650k) at the start of the season and are consulting lawyers re administration. more legal battles?..green jhedi
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Keep it coming green jhedi - you got dun utd AWAY, not had a home tie for 3 yrs in the scot cup? SFA conspiracy? demand an enquiry! take to the streets! you gonnae bury your heads in the sand again or bite yir pillow? the SFA are rippin the pi9h right out of you! excellent! ha ha ha by the way a 'freen jhedi' was on earlier, relative?
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What are they peeved off at though, you haven't specifed.
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Wit next broxi bear not been paid ffs .
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Such a pity about the draw, celtic would have preferred going to ibrox in the next round that would have been as good as a bye
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We,ll have more away fans v utd than you managed to get into ibrox,artybhoy.and we,ll win.
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2nd poster; their looking into a poss breach of contract regarding the image of tennents ltd. just heard it tho so dont know for def.
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Administration for 650k, oh pulleeeeeease... behave.
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06 Feb 2012 15:27:54
Can the diddy who posted that he bumped into Kris Boyd yesterday and he said he was training with rangers today with a view to signing with rangers and he had not signed the usa deal yet please explain why sky sports news have just shown him training at Kilmarnock before his big move to the states?.
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And?
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Yes he has signed for Portland Timbers ffs wish people would stop this rumour it needS to be put to bed NOW
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He will be training with Kilmarnock because the US in on their winter break!
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But the rumour was he was training at rangers with a view to signing. I know it's a winter break. The post was supposedly heard from the horses mouth.
Just sick of the rubbish posted on this page.
CJM
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06 Feb 2012 15:15:09
Any chance of Rangers getting an emergency loan if Healy gets injured?
Chris Macguire mentioned in news, Derby allowing for an emergency loan deal.
Doubt it, but you never know.
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No put those straws ur clutching back down. Championship clubs can still get loans in and out but rankers can't.
JELLY N ICE CREAM WHEN RANGERS DIE !!
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Only keepers can move in emergency deal. green jhedi
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My two Rangers supporting pals tell me the DSS do Crisis Loans, hope this helps LOL Timalloy
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Lol, you'll need a loan off wonga first before you can get bargain basement no hoper loan.
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Healy is muck anyway
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What would the chances be of yous actually paying wages for an emergency loan anyway?
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06 Feb 2012 14:49:39
Can I ask everyone how they felt when healy got took off at 2-0? I know he was having a bad game but surely u bring someone like edu off rather tha n a striker? All is a legend but he's a hopeless and clueless manager.
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We needed a goal he should taken a defender off and play 2 up front, thats mccoist for you ?
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Feel same as you m8 but their is nobody else to put on afraid to say we are up s..t creak with out a paddle
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06 Feb 2012 13:12:19
I was at Ibrox for yesterdays fiasco at least i had hospitality to get me through the ordeal.
The talk after the game in the various suites is that Ally has had to be talked out of walking away on two separate occasions in the last Seven days by Craig Whyte but only as their is no money available to replace him Not exactly an endorsement for the Manager i think.
We Rangers fans may just have to accept short term pain and hopefully once Mr Whye has revealed what the plans are post HMRC result we can come back stronger and better prepared to meet all the Media Rangers bashers head on and prove WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!
RFC will win this War..
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And they say Celtic fans are paranoid(Media Rangers Bashers)when things are going wrong at a club they print it,yous are not the only club to have gone through this sort of media sh$t stirring,welcome to the world of Leeds,Hearts,Newcastle,Portsmouth and Celtic to name a few,so suck it up and stop being so paranoid.MACCA
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What a mug! media bashers? if the media had been doing their jobs and reporting on facts years ago you might have known about this mess earlier.but they were being pampered by murray. now its public they gotta print it.the truth has been out there for two years,but it was just timmy rumours! green jhedi
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Well chaps
I am not suprised that you 2 individuals have to chose to pick negatives out of what i said. which is totally your right to do so .My point regarding the media is that despite their being no public announcement of the HMRC result Rangers fate has already been decided by the media unless you rather well informed chaps know the result and wish to enlighten us 'paranoid' as you put it Rangers fans.
I could pick out too many examples to mention of Celtic feeling theyve been singled out for various reasons but all im interested in is the safety and future of Rangers Football club so if you have nothing constuctive to put forward then its best be good bhoys and run off back and talk to people who share your opinions.
Rangers will never die!!
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There is no war just a mismanaged business running out of options, if you think Whyte has a plan you are seriously mistaken, he is just lurching from one crisis to another, administration is inevitable at this rate
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Don't u mean where are the people
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All Rangers problems are of their own creation, nothing to do with the media. What did the editor of the DR sneak into your bank during the night and steal Ł20m from your bank account. Thought not.
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Its not a war mate. In a war people get killed. This is a football club pure and simple Its a business in trouble, albeit very big trouble. Even after the HMRC case the sun will still rise.
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06 Feb 2012 12:10:28
Elsewhere, the improbably-named Rangers winger Mervan Celik says his former club GAIS are owed £240,000 by Rangers despite suggestions that GAIS had not offered a contract to Celik within the required time after his contract expired. Celik insists that an extension had been offered. The Record adds that should the situation remain unresolved, then FIFA may be asked to arbitrate.
Will this be another wait for the court case and pay up or will Whyte do the correct thing and pay up.
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Ur actually asking the question, ur havin a laugh
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Give him back?
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And why would Whyte pay up. That is exactly why we are now in a financial mess, throwing money about.
Fifa rules state a contract must be presented in paper (not verbal) within 60 days of the players current deal ending. If this does not happen, compo may notbe required.
This did not happen with Mervan, so we are saying is the compo as much as they have requested.
This is a fair question asked by us in my opinion and would be in no hurry to pay anything.
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If Whyte does not owe this money, do you think he will pay it out of principle? I remember a similar case before, I think it was Kishnishvilli
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If a contract was offered then Whyte is legally obligated to pay. No ifs, no buts. If he chooses not to pay then he should face the consequences of FIFA.
The man is a crook and bent as a nine bob note.
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Take off your blue tinted specs "Celik insists that an extension had been offered."
You are not in this mess from throwing money away your in this mess because you never threw money to the tax man.
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I know celik only played 45 mins but my god he didn't half look bad. i predict another scouting blunder by rangers
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It doesnt matter if there is no contract,Rangers still owe them a fee for his development as he is only 21,its the same situation as Aluko,but doubt if Celik will pay it himself.MACCA
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The club says it's due, the player says it's due. It would be an embarrassment to have to be forced by UEFA and will further damage Rangers reputation (such as it is at the moment). Pay up!
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06 Feb 2012 11:55:12
Have to think against Utd i would have happily played Mcmillan, Hutton, Fleck and Bendicksen but where were they?.......Oh yeah
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And jelavic
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06 Feb 2012 11:51:50
If we got any kind of cash i'd like to see us offer short term contracts to Boyd, Riordan and Jaager
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Boyd has signed contract in America put that one to bed . Be lucky if jagger came to us the way he was treated as for riordan don't think so .... Kingbilly boy
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Boyd signed for the American team, and there is a reason riordan still doesn't have a team, he has a bad attitude.
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How many times Boyd has signed for Portland Timbers
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How mant times zilch nowt big fat zero,NO CASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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How many times, read this slowly if you must WE HAVE NO MONEY!!
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Absoloutley no cash available at Ibrox AT LEAST until the tax case has been resolved, even then probably beyond that!
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06 Feb 2012 11:36:25
Ally says he is looking to bring in an out of contract player or players, but does ED/anybody else know any decent free agents ATM?
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Daniel Cousin
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Waste of time bringing anyone in as admin will happen in the next couple of weeks.
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The obvious one here is Derek Riordan. Might not be to a lot of people's liking but right now we cannot be too choosy and he's easily better than most of the others we are using right now. Ie Healy, Kerkar, Little
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Alexandr hleb is a freebie at the minute...no chance on wages tho
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Hibs have just released about 8 players. You should have a look at them!
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Waste of time bringing anyone in as admin will happen in the next couple of weeks.
have you any proof or are you just banging your gums as usual Timmy
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I think cammy fraser and john mcdonald are possibly out of contract, could do a job
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Allys transfer record is shocking let better player leave
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06 Feb 2012 11:35:23
paul lambert says he told holt of an enquiry by rangers,holt informed him he wasnt interested in talking to them. mccoist says he was interested in going to ibrox! theres a liar in ibrox somewhere and until he's found the truth will never out. either mccoist is lying to fans or he himself is being fed lies to pass on to fans.,,green jhedi
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Mc Coist has to make the fans believe that everything is ok. He is CW's puppet. If he speaks out against CW he will be out on his arse. A perfect example of CW controlling what the media are/are not allowd to say about him/Rangers was Steven Davis's press conference. Davis was asked whether he thought the club owner was backing McCoist in the transfer market but before he could answer, he was tapped on the shoulder by one of Whyte's PR team and the interview ended.
The truth is out there so why don't start asking questions instead of allowing yourselves to be fed the crap that Whyte spouts?
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Or Lambert is talking pish.
I know where my money is.
Stay on the runners up page please!
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I believe Lambert 100% we should take riordan and see the season out, so what if we finish fourth.
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And you just keep telling yourself every body else but whyte is lying! when they come to padlock murray park you can stand screaming" all is well,dont panic"..mug.....freen jhedi
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McCoist is the 1 lying to the fans. Go back and read some of his interviews in dec/jan. 1 interview contradicts the other. Even now he is still talking about signing players (more lies). And before game on Sunday he said in interview that "it's a great time to be a youth player at Murray park".why? Youth players are leaving because they are on getting a chance, eg Bendikson Hutton Fleck McMillan. These are all players Walter should have been bringing through 2 years ago instead of spending Ł2.25m on McCulloch Ł3.5m on Lafferty and Ł2.5m on edu.
Johnger. GET ALLY OUT
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Nice sh*t stirring freen jhedi, you got a sister called green jhedi? Holt wasn't interested and neither were Norwich end of story. Can you explain one thing to me D. Desmond got paid Ł50000 in a renumeration payment from CFC last year why?
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Regarding the "payment" to D. Desmond... because they can afford to pay him that money that is why!
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06 Feb 2012 11:34:42
I have heard from a very reliable football person, that Ally McCoist will leave soon and the coach coming in is Derek McIness, I told him McIness has just went to Bristol City.....His Replied its a 100% Done Deal, McIness is a big bluenose
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Any self respecting Rangers supporter would not be taking on the job in the current climate.
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Agreed with above plus he is good friends with Ally and would never stab him in the back.
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No one in there right mind would come to ibrox the noo, ah love ally and think this job has aged the guy no end, i would say to him what paddy mcguiness would like to say no likey.....thats right, run like fk
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How will rangers afford the compensation payments to Bristol city
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Go back and tell him he is talking mince, 100% !!!!!!
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McInnes is a blue nose, but he also has a contract at Bristol City, they would be looking for compensation just like they had to fork out compensation to St Johnstone for McInnes, so tell your mate to shut his pie hole!
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06 Feb 2012 11:31:02
I would be giving Wylde a chance up front with Healy
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Wylde gets worse everytime he gets on the park.
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Wylde is one of the worst players I have seen in Rangers top, shouldn't get anywhere near the first 11 even in the state we are currently in, really don't get the obsession with him with some people.
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Wylde has pace to burn, possible new lovenkrands if we used him correctly
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Have you seen Wylde play his supposed "good position", get a grip man, would rather Ally asked Hateley to put his boots back on ffs
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06 Feb 2012 10:55:09
Looking at the attitude of the players yesterday it looked like their minds were not on the game. The uncertainty is obviously getting to them and Whyte needs to come out and tell everyone the real situation no matter how bad
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What's happening off the park should not affect the players on the park, they are getting paid thousands of pounds a week and unlike the fans are in a position to actually help our situation by doing what they are paid to do and win games, if anything that should be trying their bloody hardest to give the fans that pay their wages something to cheer about.
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06 Feb 2012 10:32:35
Ally needs to go! Been a season ticket holder for 18 years and never have i seen such poor decisions i.e transfers, tactics and picking the new captain Davis. I feel sorry for the guy cause he's got nothing from the board but we need to grind out results and have someone who can make things work with what he's got. That man would be butcher for me proven he can work with no cash at motherwell and inverness.
Out of Europe to two diddy teams and then two cup games to falkirk and dundee utd at home! Any other manager would have been sacked and thats not even mentioning the 15 point gap!
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So we just need to try and see if peen and teller wwant the job then?
what your describing is a magician not a manager mate. mccoist is the man for the job 100% he has rangers in his blood and he is here for the love of our club. would you risk another manager coming in, not giving a f@ck about rangers and only happy to collect his money.
the man feels ever defeat the same way the fans do so lay off him he will see us through these dark days.
its not the end of the world we are 4 points behind THEM and they are on a purple patch at the minute, thats not going to last forever. WATP
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The on field problems are a result of the off field problems ally is not to blame for the poor running of the club and lack of morale.
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Simple to make ally the scape goat but in reality its down to mr murray were in this situation! watp
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The Gap is only 1 point by the way!
Anyway Ally needs to go - all this other nonsense is doing is making excuses for him. He should never have been given the job and the longer he stays in it the further we fall
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Certainly don't want butcher if Ally was to leave
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So sack fat sally pay compensation tap up butcher pay compensation how are you going to pay for this when you cant sign freebies.
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Celtic fan coming in peace, I have to defend ally McCoist here! He is the man to lead rangers through this difficult period, you need a man that has the club in his heart and ally will always give everything he has for the club. Normally the coaching staff and players should take the blame for a poor run but I would say lay the blame at the doors of the owners past and present! Forced to sell jelavic, tried to sell lafferty behind ally's back, sent best young prospects out on loan and then couldn't sign players on trial because of wages etc? The squad is paper thin and clearly look to be effected by everything that is happening off the pitch, can't blame them or ally! The fans turning on the manager and players is the last thing they need just now, players coaches and fans are all in the same boat here so get behing ally and the squad!
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I am gettign sick and tired of hearing how Ally is being forced to work with poor players, not being supported byt the board, lets think back 6 months, not years, months. Players who came in, Goian, Bocanegra, Wallace, Ortiz, McKay, Bartley, Bedoya. Now they all have to be paid, the clubs have to be paid for them. That is 7 players and if you add in Celik, thats 8 players in 6 -7 months, thats 3/4 of a team not including the new contracts to McGregor, Davies, Naismith and others. The big problme is the oney Ally got he has wasted, he bought players in and they have left again without even bewing given a chance and now there is no depth to the squad. Based on the current track record would you give him any more money. I agree Whyte might not be perfect but he sadi Ł5 million and base don all those players with wages and new contracts he has spent over that. The club is losing money and had to trim the wage bill and like it or not the money you got for Jelavic was realistic, never mind the 10million everybody was talking about. I just dont think the manager is up to the job, hasnt got the right coaching team in place and the scouting network is a joke, maybe take off the blue glasses and realise that this isnt all the chairmans fault.
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Dont blame ally, you are kidding right. No support from the board
he has signed wallace (1.5m), bedoya (400k) Mckay (150K) Ortiz (800K). goian (900K) bocanegra (?K) celik ( supposed to be Ł240K) its starting to look as though he's havin difficulty in picking a player as that looks like plenty board support . Especially if you add in the new contracts to davis, whittaker , mcgregor, Weir ( purely for sentimental reasons) healy (why this was done is anyone's guess).
We sign players and play them in the wrong positions.this cant be blamed on the board. we have two left back alternating on the left side, a centre back playing right back.
mccoist is responsible for team selection and signings. he needs to carry the can for recent bad performances
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Without a doubt McCoist is responsible for setting in train the events which have led to a dismal display this season. Defeats to Malmo and maribor both enormously costly, occurred when he still had boogie, jelavic, naismith etc. This was poor football management nothing else
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I think a seasoned manager (except maybe Walter Smith) would have struggled with what McCoist has had to spend on. We have very little money and no matter how we dress it up, only bargain basement players is all we can afford (even that is beyond our reach now). Ally has to play players out of position in some respects as we could not afford a decent player for those positions. In an ideal world McCoist would not have even looked at those players, never mind purchased them. We have to 'cut our clothe' accordingly and i can't see it getting any better in the immediate future.
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If you watch ally he just stands there with arms folded no motivation from him.dont think he knows how to.
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06 Feb 2012 10:16:05
Even with the team we had out yesterday we should still be good enough to win the game,why can Ally see that playing players out of position DOES NO WORK you play them in their best position,cellik is a left winger not right papac is a left back not a winger,mculloch could have played up front to give us a bit of presence up front and maybe win some of the punts up the park that we seem to do.
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Your wrong they're. Papac was bought buy Le Guen to play as centre back. Celic can play either wing. McCulloch is rubbish.
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This argument started so well. how can you preech about playing players in the right position then go on to say mcculloch could have played upfront?
yes he played there before but that was over 8 years ago.
get off Mccoists back he has been dealt a bad hand and he cant bluff with it.
alex ferguson would struggle to get a starting 11 on the pitch with the players we have.
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I guess the simple question is: What is Rangers strongest starting eleven without playing players out of position? I have great sympathy for the situation McCoist is in as I do not think he can field a team without playing players were they are unaccustomed to playing.
Lets see, if we played players in the position they are meant to be playing:
GK - McGregor
LB - Wallace (Papac is a centre back originally)
CB - Goian
CB - Bocanegra
RB - Whittaker when fit - but he is no defender and should be playing right wing. Other than that there is no option but to play a centre back at right back - that being either Broadfoot or Bartley (both rubbish in the role). So we needed Jager who we didnt bring in.
LM - Our true left sided midfielders are Aluko, Celik, McKye and Wylde. Take your pick - although I believe Wylde started as a Left Back. None of these players played that position on Sunday - that was Papac and unquestionably a bad decision.
CM - Edu, Davis, McCulloch, Ness (when fit) or maybe even McKye - again probably the best "in position" option is Davis and Edu
RM - Bedoya is the only true right sided winger we have with Naismith out - and even Naismith was a striker. Bedoya has been poor - so who should he play ahead of? Real argument to play Davis on the right (where he has been successful in the past) or Whittaker.
FW - Healy, Lafferty (when fit), Hemmings (when fit) Little (not a striker) Kerkar (clearly not a striker). Who exactly do we play here whilst Lafferty and Hemmings are injured? It HAS to be a player out of position such as Aluko or Celk.
So really - the lack of Right backs, right sided midfielders and striking options are so apparent. We needed as a minimum to replace Naismith and Jelavic in the transfer window and all we brought in was another left sided winger - which we have in abundance.
With everyone fit (excluding Naismith who is out for the season) here is what I would play (for what it is worth):
GK McGregor
LB Papac
CB Goian
CB Bocanegra
RB Whittaker (no option)
LM Aluko
CM Ness
CM Edu
RM Davis
FW Lafferty
FW Hemmings
Best options from a poor squad in my view. Either that or take Ness out and play Davis in the centre, pushing Whittaker onto the Right wing and playing Broadfoot at right back.
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06 Feb 2012 09:53:07
The performance and effort yesterday was the worst i can remember. Edu may not be the best player in the world but if 11 players tried as hard as he does we wouldnt be losing games the way we did yesterday. Everyone should lay off mccoist as the signings rangers have made were gordon smith signings with exception of aluko who is doing well. Mccoist had to ask aluko to pay for himself by remortgaging his house. Mccoist is being undermined at every turn and we should back him to the hilt.
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06 Feb 2012 09:16:37
I was just thinking Whyte could put the club up for sale and instead of getting one owner how about getting 2 or maybe even 3 so thats more than one owner putting their cash into the club same as whats at manchester united and manchester city
if only Whyte would see sense that HE is doing more harm to our club than good by remaining there
please Whyte go we want our club back to what it should be
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Whyte cannot do anything just now until the tax thing is sorted.
Essentially you do not want to have 50 million available at present or the tax man may take it.
You want the bank account empty so they acnt take anything.
Whyte did not get us here other people did.
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Funniest thing I've ever heard, what a bargain
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Yeah and what has Whyte done so far absolute nill he just expects to sit back and things will sort themelves out well he has done nothing if hes not willing to do anything like deal with the debt then step aside and let someone else have a go before we head down the tubes longer its left we will go down
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06 Feb 2012 07:12:35
Rumours about administration papers being drawn up are true.
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Rumours of the world ending on the 22 dec 2012 are true, source-mayan Calendar,
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Wits that fat lady singing anyway? Cheerio in b flat:-$
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Elvis isn't dead FACT GER1952
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