Rangers Rumours Archive May 05 2012

05 May 2012 23:11:46
Bears! Been speaking to a mate who works in the states. Asked him to do a bit of digging about Miller. Wasn't much to find out apart from the fact that a recent business venture he's involved in has been wound up and that's already been reported. Also got some personal background info thats been in the papers too. What was interesting though was that my mate said he heard that Miller has enlisted the services of a uk firm called knight frank. I checked them out and they seem to be a company specialising in property development. Got me wondering why? And before you start, i'm not a dhim! anyone else hearing this?

Knight Frank are more letting agents than anything

Well done Sherlock,this was in the papers,dnt kid on you know people etc to find out information...

Well all the spare ground across from ibrox is owned by rangers and so is the big massive carpark on the corner, as we tried to get permission to build a casino, hotels etc but another city won the bid

I'm a joiner in Aberdeen and knight frank are a architect company! Have been on a few of there jobs , wud hear if anything going down with relvance to are club!

Murray was Stoney broke and didn't buy a single player during a Christmas transfer window. So he used the lickspittle hacks to do a 6 page extravaganza on spending £400m on a vat hotel casino village integrated resort around RFC. Critsised as bull at the time cause he couldn't bring in a £3m target for the manager and MIH owed £800m.

Yes. Not claiming to be Sherlock though. Heard stuff about this kind of thing in the paper too. Never read anything about the company Knight Frank though. Or were they named in the paper too. No. Didn't think so. Tube!!

Think on my fellow bears, BM is a truck towing and repair specialist, the ground area in which you are all intrested in is infact prime ground for a such a business as it is very close to the motorway and there are various haulage firms which require vehicle recovered, repaired and storage.
By using the ground around the club for such a use he could generate monies that would be invested into the club at little or no exposure to his personal funds.

It was on STV news, a University done a study on him, yes a business he was involved in did go tits up, but he was only an investor he wasnt running it! From wot ive seen on news and papers etc he seems to be a genuine guy and NOT a shifty crook like Whyte.

05 May 2012 18:53:20
I know this will probably be BS but as this is a rumour's site,i thought id post this here.Im a rangers supporter so no Timmy accusations please.Was told by a fellow worker yesterday who is in the footballing circles and has some friends who are usually quite accurate with what they say,he came out with this yesterday from nowhere and it took me by surprise.
1/Ibrox to be sold to highest bidder
2/Murray park to be sold to highest bidder
3/The Albion to be sold to highest bidder
4/Any other properties linked to Rangers to be sold of to the highest bidder.
This where it gets interesting,he followed onto say that B Miller has already enquired about aqquiriing the New Velodrome and the rest of the properties surrounding it.Less than 1 mile from Porkhead .This will be developed into a roofed stadium,housing for the whole team,shops for the merchandise and a new training academy.As i said its a rumour,i dont know if its real but this is a rumour i have been told and thought i would share.

Probably crap, no one would buy ibrox, no scottish club has big enough attendances and to much paperwork and legal stuff to demolish it ( main stand grade 2 listed building)

Dream on hes takong the piss big time hail hail

I know it's a rumour page mate but have a word with yourself.The velodrome is getting made into a community sports arena the plans are lodged

Sounds very yankee

Only the brick frontage is listed. Can easily be demolished. Same as Highbury.

What alot of p*** the velodrome is not even complete,it is being built for the Commonwealth games and rather than 1 mile from Cp it is just across the road.

The ground could be demolished without too much bother as long as some of the listed part remained. Look at what happened to Highbury - now flats with original facade.

May not be totally carp. I work for Glasgow City Council planning department and we've been dealing with enquiries from a number of people on the rules regarding listed buildings lately. They started with initial verbal advice on the phone until 5 weeks ago when we recieved a written letter outlining what warrants, safety legislation and timescales would be needed to renovate/demolish listed buildings. This is clear, the misconception that a listed building cannot be pulled down is pure rubbish. It has happened before. Rules regarding listed buildings usually rlate to the cultural history, architectural significance and the likes. The main aspects that make Ibrox listed are the tiled nameplate above the main door, the distinctive red bricks, archway door and style of the building. In essence, Ibrox could be demolished as long as the fron face of the building is preserved. In the past some listed buildings have been deliberately un-maintained to such an extent that a demolition warrant had to be issued because the integrity of the building had suffered and it was not reasonably practicable to repair. The velodrome idea sounds far fetched but also in the enquiry was a qurie about planning permissions needed to downscale sporting arenas. This basically points to someone, in Glasgow, looking at all avenues of changing a sporting arena. Sports arenas need permission to downscale or upgrade, as has already been shown by Londo 2012 and their plans to lower the capacity of the Olympic arena. It got me thinking which arena in Glasgow it was. Certainly wasn't Celtic park as we have already, in the past, discussed the possibilities of increasing the main stand there and it wasn't feasible. Didn't think it was Hampden as the warrants and permissions to change it have already been signed off for a temporary change for the Commonwealth Games. Don't think it could be any of the minor Glasgow teams as I don't believe they possess any listed features so that leaves Ibrox.

Thought this was pure crap at first but then I started to google Bill Miller and the original sports consortium he was originally involved in. Lo and behold it is all sports stadiums that they seem to be interested in. Take a look yourselves bears and come to your own conclusions. May be complete rubbish but is quite weird to read after reading this particular post.

Absolute rubbish - grow up

This has got to be the worst story ive heard in decades, my sides are splitting, i work on the veladrome for sir robert mcalpine and i can tell you it would be impossible to convert to anything like a football stadium, add to that the adjacent athletes village which consists of nothing more than third rate cheap housing that will no doubt be filled with bampots like you after the games, so do yourself a favour and change your prescription ya lunatic.

Maybe this particular story is very far fetched but I do believe his major interest is in the stadium and training park as opposed to the team. Miller and the various consortiums that he is involved in have sports arenas connected. It may be something as simple as Ibrox being used for more non football activities, gigs etc... No bad thing if that's all it is, as long as its not at the expense of funding being put into the club.

Veladrome only holds 5 thousand but I imagine that's enough for 3rd division football. GBNL

Maybe they'll put a roof on Ibrox to keep in the shame.

Guys again with the name calling. This is a rumour site. He stated his rumours in a fair way and all u have to do is press believe or disbelieve not call him a bampot or whatever. I can tell u I've read some humdingers on here, this rumour isnt even in the same class as some you get. Give him a break.

Speaking a neutral in the matter, I hope it's not true because Glasgow would lose a brand new velodrome. That would be very sad!

05 May 2012 18:31:13
just wondering if the 3 year euro exile for a newco would still stand? if eventually the 2 companys are merged say after like a year? as the oldco would be back

Wishful thinking.

EUFA have definitively stated that they regard the establishment of a nreco as a break in the timeline. Even if new and old are ultimately re-merged that timeline break would still be there and so the 3 year rule stands.

Non-question as the answer was already out there.

Yes Hector fan it will...after a year or however long it takes, and if you can arrange a cva and its accepted, all you will do is link the old club with the new club....sanctions applied to the newco will continue as a first penalty....the old club might actually bring other sanctions across with it, if your directors are intent on trying to bring across the defunct companies history....ie 140 years of questionable practices....

The merged company would be another newco.

Yes Hector fan, they still apply, the newco will have to carry the penalties and maybe even have to accept any penalties that are carried over form the old club should they ever merge...which actually is a massive ask....the newco directors only reward for doing this measure would be to try to reclaim your past history....however the punishments about to be handed out might make a fresh and completly new Hectors 2012 the only real business option available to them......Sorry....Oh no I'm not, oh yes you are, oh no I.m not.......

The incubator won't work cause it's another way to avoid paying what you owe and hector won't allow it

This is probably the only penalty that will stick because those making the decision are not blinkered by the need to keep Rangers in the SPL at all costs - I used to think that UEFA were corrupt and lacked morals but Scottish football is showing them that they are mere amateurs when it comes to lack of integrity

I'm afraid it will still stand, although if you ask the spl/sfa to fight your corner i'm sure they will.

No because old co will have stopped trading, had no assets, had no team, and would have to apply to get back into SPL due to having no share. Also old co no accounts and no Euro license no directors, under Administrators still.

If all of the assets are in the newco, and all of the debts are in the oldco, where do player registrations sit in terms of being with a third party?

Also if the current players contracts are all terminated if the contracts move to the newco, then the squad for next year is going to be made up of u18s!

05 May 2012 17:40:02
I know there could still be a transfer embargo on next season but we seriously need to get rid of players how are simply not good enough to pull on a Rangers jersey.

Bartley, Edu, Broadfoot, Little, Goian, Bedoya, & Healy should have played their last games for Rangers.

Goin has been solid for us a few scary moments but I wouldn't get rid of him nor little

Don't worry sir Hector, they are all going, next season your newco will have at it cores your team....who I.m affraid were stuffed in the under 19s league by our youth team...many of whom are nowhere good enough for the 1st team pool....enjoy your newco...with many years of pain.

You need to get a grip and hope we can still put a team on the pitch next season . Stop being so critical, when I here people like you slagging off players it makes me ashamed to be a Rangers supporter.you need a reality check

I dont think we will be looking to get rid of any of these player's,Bartley will go back to Arsenal anyway,Goian and Bedoya will prolly leave due to being to expensive to keep but the rest we will need due to being on lower wages even though they havent played well this season,if the transfer embargo is upheld after the appeal,im afraid it will be all hands on deck.

Thats such an unfair evaluation of the players
Bartley And goian have played well with the 3 at the back
Edu and bedoya have energy and are good box to box midfielders
Little is the type of striker we need and him and Naismith will thrive off of each other

Try getting behind the players eh?
EKger

Are you kidding? - who we gonna get to replace them - Lionel Messi? Or nobody for 12 months? Edu has been one of our best players this season, Bartley will go back to Arsenal Broadfoot has been injured, same Bedoya and i think Little and Healy did well when called upon - try going to some games and waiting a few weeks and seeing who is left, then we'll discuss who's in the squad.

Ed, what wage is goian? isnt mcgregor, davis, whitaker, naismith on all on £25k before the wage cut? if bill miller does get in he needs to sort out contract, even ally mcoist (true legend) said himself that the club cannot continue with the contracts the way they are today (75% cut) im more worried about contracts rather than signings, we have great players in naismith, mcgregor, and davis, i dont wanna lose them firstly {Ed022's Note - I'm not sure mate, but pretty low.}

Whats Arsenal going to do with Bartley?

Loan him to a championship team? {Ed022's Note - Well they have to make him play well somehow!}

The poster should be thankful the players are still there after taking huge wage cuts.

I don't care what any1 thinks on here , am telling u straight up andy little would not get in2 my Sunday league team... Naismith and little will thrive on each other lol wtf .. Get a grip

I think you need a reality check mate, under the current situation we just have to be thankful we're still around next season. Get it into your head we're not going to be a team that will challenge for anything for quite a few years right now with everything that is coming our way. We must stick together through the next few years and help our club get back to some sort of stability, its going to be a rough few years so get used to it and start supporting the team that we will have out. WATP

I think that most of these posts on players on the move will be crap - when the new season comes most of our players will be in situ. youth will break through and hopefully help us progress. No worries about our future. if we fail we all fail as one family but we wont. Start supporting guys thick and thin Up the Gers yorkielad

Why get rid of Edu, Goian and Litte. They are decent players.

Not good enough to pul on a Rangers jersey! These guys took a substantial hit on their wages to keep our club going! Would you do that for your employer? I doubt it so away and behave yourself! Either support any player who is lucky enough to pull on the blue jersey or away and find yourself another club to follow!

To the post about andy little, just cause he was loaned out to plymouth, hes come back scored again the tic and a few others, but always try too

Edu is garbage.

Yeah yeah, let's all jump on the blame Edu bandwagon. A few of you call yourself fans, but fail to realise that Edu has been a standout performer this season, except maybe against Celtic (but the whole team was sub-standard that day). Also, he has taken all the fans criticism over the past couple of seasons and taken a 75% wage cut despite this criticism. So all you "fans" need a long, hard look at your view on Edu. Just be happy that the club is still operating.

BigBear

The current Squad is pure utter urine i would get rid of all of them and play the under 15s

05 May 2012 16:33:36
If rangers newco are formed does the transfer embargo still stand {Ed022's Note - I'd expect so.}

Yes, Hector Fan it does.... do you think we are so simple minded that you can walk away from your position without punishment....Dream on...

Dont know if the spl transfer ban does as its old rangers ...newco ... different company.....fair play uefa must be watching closely

Hector fan don't know that expression
It's just a question no need for attack

Just like all of the other penalties, this will be reversed - Rangers will start next season with no embargo, no debt and no shame

There will be plenty of shame

05 May 2012 12:23:23
spoke to a journalist at gym this morning who says that he is aware of 3 players who are discussing moves away from rangers(lafferty, davis & shagger)

Journalist at the gym ?? Mate you are in a league of you own ! Oh sweet mother , ed001 must you post this nonsense mate, on the up side it is humorous !
PaulRFC {Ed022's Note - I posted it, Ed001 isn't the only one here mate.}

Well considering mcgregor whittaker davis and lafferty are costing the club 90k a week then for the club its an easy option to redice the wage bill and bleed the youth in.

Don't know about all 3 but Davis' agent has certainly been touting him around and seeing as there will be firesale prices at the end of the season, he seems a more attractive option for other clubs who previously couldn't have afforded him.

My apolagies 022 {Ed022's Note - No worries mate. I posted it because I like posts that make me smile, as there is very few on the Rangers site, it's all doom and gloom etc.}

Was speaking to my mate Jim who's a weatherman who says it's going to get dark tonight........DH

Can't be much of a journalist if he only knows 3 players about to "walk away", I heard the number was 54! Sorry don't know their names but Sandy (big mouth) Jardine says he is available for next season and hopes are high for John Greig.

Naismiths agent is touting him in the prem,40k per week.

Ridiculous, hacks don't do gyms look at Waddell and Traynor.

Spoke to him in fitness first, east kilbride. he is a regular who is well informed.

Was it gym traynor by any chance lol./biggles

Naisy has an offer on the table from epl(not west brom)

McCoist already said he knew Lafferty was talking to a championship club's manager so we know he is looking to get out. As for Davis, I think he'd want to move back south again sometime soon but I've a feeling McGregor will stick around.

Do we really need to hang on to these players anyway no Europe for three years so time to build and get players who are within our budget too many overpaid players at ibrox time to live within our means

Will be sorry to see davis,naisy and greggs go, lafferty ..... good riddence, not turning up for the hearts game, and showing coisty lack of respect, shows the class of the man!

Being a young chubby man who lives near fitness first in ek i can tell you that there is most certainly not a journo regular at fitness first, i'm in 3 or 4 times a week woth my pals and its usually us and rather arousing women in there
EKger

F of laff, i used to support you even wen fellow bears didnt, but to hear of your attitude and mcoist to suspend you when he ha no depth, especially in attack! you must have been a right p**ck. good riddens

Great. I think the quicker we get the high earners off the books we'll have a better chance to survive. I'm quite happy for a young side to be playing next year and give them 3 years to improve with a few half decent players for experience. I for one will support Rangers whatever team is played, I just want them to remain as the club I love.