31 Oct 2012 21:31:52
Time for Ally to go! His record in cup matches since taking over is abysmal. I know this is a new team but it has a £7million wage bill, biggest in Scotland by a mile apart form Celtic. No shape, no tactics , no strategy with player acquisition - are we really to believe that we couldn't have got better players for less money than guys from abroad such as Faure, left back from Athens and lets not mention Kyle! Derek McInnes, Butcher, McCall if any would come would be an improvement. Ally looks lost most of the time.
Guys we lost. Nothing to be ashamed of. This team are over 25 league positions ahead of us. We move on and look back. Our sole aim is to return (yes i did say return) to where we belong - scotlands top flight which by then will hopefully be out of the spls control
Agree. the. defence was shocking and mccoist takes off shiels and brings on kyle.black should have been substituted instead of Hutton.
Another inept performance
Another lucrative cup semi final gone. How much money has Ally cost us with his useless tactics, signings and performances in every cup competition he has entered i agree with the OP we are paying a fortune to some of the worst players seen at Ibrox. I wish Ally would realise he just dosen't have it as a manager! He has never really shown any potential to be one either and changing into a track suit won't make him one either! It's Time!
I wish some fellow bears would give ally a break ok we lost tonight the situation the club is in is not an overnight cure lets be thankfull we still have a club lets get right behind the manager and players
Only thing I can blame ally for was leaving little on. He should have been hooked at half time, the amount of times he picked the ball up out wide n actually ran back to the defence with it was shocking. Mckay needs to start as he is our only creative player.
We cant blame ally for our players inability to pass the ball. Thats on them. Sure, something needs to change but I dont think its the manager. Lets be realistic, we might have some spl players but we are playin 3rd division football. If we were playin this way n sitting top of div 1 id be worried, but we've a long way to go so have faith.
In someways im glad were out, as much as it pains me to say it, I do not want to be playin celtic until we are truly back on our feet. If we had got through they'd take us to the cleaners.
You's were a cl side when you bear motherwell....b
Correct to the poster 2nd above still a long road ahead it could have easily been 5 tonight we are certainly far off the mark as a finished product on the park so we cant blame the manager in a way im kinda glad too we are out as celtic may have took four or five goals off us to be honest im just annoyed we are in this position i think this haul is going to take 5 or 6 years to get back on our feet good to see a healthy crowd at the game tonight
This is no knee jerk reaction to tonight's result, which to be honest comes as no surprise. Guys, we really have to stop lettting our hearts rule our heads. Ali is a legend in my eyes and praise for the way he has handled this whole situation, but....he never has been and in my opinion never will be the manager to take us forward. Sure we need to build and work our way back to the top but we need a more experienced man at the helm to guide us to be in a position to compete when we get back there. Ali has no eye for a player, and in turn our whole scouting system should be completely overhauled, Ali's signings as a whole have been a disaster and at times his tactics just completely baffles me. We talk of having a young squad, our average squad is 25, tonight Caleys was 24?, ev
en the average age of the dhims squad 25.
The building starts now but unfortunately not with Ali at the helm.
Yeh, let's all settle for mediocrity because we are loyal to Ally. We might huff and puff and get out of the Third Division but is that good enough. I said he was not good enough last season during and after the home tie against Malmo. There has been no tangible improvement even taking account of recent events. He hasn't got it. The coaching and scouting staff needs overhauling and I for one would welcome changes. I say this after 50 years of support....sadly.
Didn't Ally say his team would win all 4 competitions they entered this season and are good enough to play in the big league? just asking like...
Rangers are top of the league with a game in hand. Expectations of the manager are too high. We are not the Rangers of Jelavic and Naismith. Alloa are second top of the Second Div just behind QOS who proved to be better than us in Ramsdens Cup. Why do some fans feel that we should easily beat them? This is their Cup Final. They will play out of their skins. It will not be the end of the world if we lose. Ally has to win Div 3. No ifs and no buts. If he does not then he is gone.
Agreed - what happens when we get to the end of this season and get promoted? Into a higher league with the same squad who are barely good enough to get us out of Div 3 and a manager who seems to have no grasp of bringing in decent players or tactics??
On one hand this is a reality check for us as to where we are at right now.
It is easy to blame Ally and while I have never thought he was up to the management game the bottom line is we are a long way off spl standard at the minute.
Yes the signings have been terrible but this was done on a scattergun manner in a matter of weeks and probably on the cheap so should we really be surprised.
I would have prefered we would have put faith in the kids rather than some of these duds.
Guys - after 20 minutes - everybody in the ground thought we were going to canter to a win - should at least have beena couple of goals up.
After we lost the goal however we lost any direction, as did our passing!, and paid the price.
Black is certainly not the answer - no creativity - looks unfit, as did little.
But Cribari had another good game against good opposition.
No ideas coming from the bench and to see Kyle coming on for Shiels was like waving a white flag.
I know we're playing 2nd/3rd rate experienced players with a group of under 18's, but its hard going
never mind RTID
bil72
Com'on ed.. wake up , open up the flood gates and let the fans vent our fury !!!........
.......RELEASE THE FURY.........
ally must go or green is weak and a man with no back up plan. attila
Ally has to go at end of season we are poor and he is making us poor
I thimk Ally is a Rangers legend-but only as a player. The issue about letting him go is that we can't sign any players in January. Rangers are still Rangers and should be better.
An SFL3 side lost at home to an SPL side, hardly a shock. Get over it.
To the post that after 20mins he said the fans thought we would canter 2 a win. not 4 me we have not improved at all from start of season we look unfit no shape no style of play no passion or desire say it again as i said at the start we will not move forward untill ally is gone.
Hence talk of Walter coming back as an advisor.
I have said it before but McCoist isn't going to cut it as a manager at any level!! John F
01 Nov 2012 14:02:49
No surprise in last night's result? McCoist is not the man to lead us out of our predicament?
His loyalty to RFC in not in question it his ability as a manager and coach that is so obviously lacking. I bet if Butcher had been managing RFC the result would have been a win for Rangers.
Please Ally step aside for the good of RFC let someone come in who can inspire these mediocre players to scrap for their lives.
This is not good enough resign and make it easier for RFC to appoint a more experienced and capable manager.
Totally agree about lost revenue from cup exits Mr Green please react to this situation.
Is the wage bill of Inverness players substantially less than Rangers ?
If the answer is yes then sack the manager, its got nothing to do with what division they are playing in, money should talk on the park.
Wage bill of Caley is less. Rangers average age and player experience is higher than ICT's.
I do not understand how Rangers can be well below SPL standard if they have the 2nd largest wage bill in Scottish football.
Rangers didn't lose at home in a scrappy game by the odd goal, they were comprehensively beaten 3-0 !
I am not sure this squad is actually good enough to win promotion next season even with a new manager, and that is atrocius considering the financial advantage.
01 Nov 2012 15:54:43
a think its time for ally to get his coat hes hopeless
come back home walter lol
"come back walter"
he was part of the problem and has said very little about the whole situation except his last minute offer for the club, to little too late and he still hasn't let us know, so we will ask again did you recieve an EBT Walter and if you did for how much. Murray, Whyte and green have now went from flogging a dead horse to milking a dead cow.
Lomas or Butcher to take over
Can Ally survive a defeat to Alloa ? {The Ed039's Note - Nobody is going to sack him, another poster said it already, only way he will be sacked is if the fans demand it)
Average first team pay at Caley is £64K p.a. or about £1.2K per week.
This is about 1/6th of what Rangers are paying Ian Black.
Not that it shows!
Thanks for the reply Ed - Ok , I'll put it another way - Will the Fans demand the sacking of Ally if he loses to Alloa ? {The Ed039's Note - I think it will be split, I think there are some who will remain loyal to Ally the legend, while others while realise he just isnt upto it as a manager, I am one of the latter, while I acknowledge his legendary status, I dont think he has the necessary tactical know how as a manager, and believe me, it pains me to say it about Ally. But yes I believe some will demand he goes if he doesnt get a result against Alloa, and that sort of stigma will not go away either, because he is expected to put out a team to get a comfortable result in every match. Sorry for babbling)
Ed it sickens me to see all these people having a go at ally the players have to take responsibility for this mess they go out on the pitch and apart from alexander and mcculloch the rest look as if they would rather be sunning themselves on a beach somewhere and not fighting for the cause. to many people scared to go into tackles we should expect nothing other than to be kicked about in the 3rd division these guys we are up against wont get a chance to play against rangers again for a long time and they are determined to get a result. so okay ally is not having a good run at the moment but lets not just blame him give the players stick as well. i am behind ally one hundred per cent i would never call for mccoist to go i want to give him a chance to get it right. so all you having a go at ally have a go at the players as well. for me we should be playing sheils and templeton when he comes back wide with hutton and mcleod in the middle of the park and little and mcculloch up front. ian black is a thug and dosent deserve to wear a rangers jersey. i am sure ed you have doubts about mccoist but would you not agree with my point that some players just are not interested in 3rd division football. {The Ed039's Note - Absoloutley, you have some good points there, but I think if the players are lacking on the park, then again its upto the coaching staff to kick some ass and get the house in order,can you imagine any other coach taking that sort of attitude from their players and letting them away with it? Again I acknowledge Ally's legendary status, but his record as a manager is just not good enough, and I think in any other club, in any other situation, the manager would have paid the ultimate price by now, and its not just been since we wound up in Div 3 or since we wound up in administration/liquidation either)
Thanks ed for your reply i think what ally needs is to get through this season and hopefully we are promoted and give him a full pre season to work with the players don't forget the pre season gone was a shambles noone knew what was happening. okay he had a bad first spl season but didnt neil lennon and i hate to say it look at the job he is doing now. i think give ally until the summer give him pre season and in the early part of next season see how things are going. i dont think it is the time to rush into a quick decision.
At last some positive comments a manager needs years to build a team look at fergie at utd and lennon at celtic replacing ally is not the answer give the guy more support this rebuilding will not happen overnight stick with ally fellow bears
I think Ally is the man for the Job. The guys is thru and thu a gers man. Look what he has done over the past year, he could have walked away but he didnt.
We are 3rd Div club now end off, what players would want to come to rangers during the pre sesean there? we only go in Div 3 at last min. So Ally got the players that were on offer he could not do much more than he has ( best of a bad buch but they will do the job and get us up into DIV 2, Mind Ally only had one season at the top afetr Walter then this happend. We got beat of Calley who are playing against SPL sides evrery week, you could see that in the game. For me getting out Div 3 is the most important thing this season, not any of the cups. We are top of the League and thats where we will stay now till the season ends. Give Ally a break, no other person would take the job anyway!
You do not need years to build a highly paid team to compete against low paid teams. What you need is a manager that can motivate highly paid players to perform at a high level, both managers and players are highly paid to perform.
Since you cannot sack all the players then you have only one option, put the manager upstairs just like John Greig.