Rangers Rumours Archive July 02 2012

 

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02 Jul 2012 22:02:44
former hearts player ian black to join newco in the next few days

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Does anyone seriously think that any player not currently at Rangers is going to commit themself to the Newco at this time. Don't you think Ian Black would like to know what division, if any, he would be playing in?

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Apparetly Weve accept the transfer ban so I don't think black is under 21 to the best of my knowledge,I don't think we will sign a seasoned pro till we know which league we r competing inn

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What? So Ian black must know where we will be playing then. Surely he won't join for a div 3 campaign? Not so sure myself

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The transfer ban was for the oldco, and even if it was for the newco, u are allowed to replace all players who have left, so 10 have left, so we would be allowed to sign 10 players...GET IT



HAMILTON LAD

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Youll be surprised in the next few days the kind of power Liewell has with other SPL clubs, Liewell knows he needs a Rangers at the top to make Celtic flourish.

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Charles Green is ready to accept the transfer embargo and Ian Black is overage, no one can be certain which league, if any, Rangers will be playing in next season and so put me in the NO camp. We have to be realistic guys. BB

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I think that the newco know exactly where they will be playing next season it is just a matter of it being confirmed and the transfer ban was on oldco so even if newco accept this ban it does not stand at the moment therefore they can sign players now

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The latest rumour say Green will accept transfer ban, pts deduction and pay all our football debts to try and get into the SPL, everything he does embaresses me, support bomber

frustrated bear

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Is that after we sign the 19 targets we were after at the euros. Green doesnt have a bean, tells lies and wants the transfer embargo cos he only wants to make money. The man is a clown just like Whyte and Murray and the sooner you stop believing his porky pies the better. Dont give this man a penny.

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My boss play golf with his agent he told me this on Saturday

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I wouldn't be surprised if Ian Black trains with Rangers even if he doesn't sign. (Or it might be a pay-per-play deal).

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If the transfer ban stands, yes you may be able to replace players whO have left in an emergency situation but they would still have to be under 18 years. Do you GET IT

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#Hamilton Lad: We're still in adminstration & we can't sign any players at this moment in time. GET IT!

As for Black knowing where we'll be playing, at this moment in time no one knows that, not Green, Doncaster, Regan or anybody else. BB

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As much as I would like that to be true I cant see it. He's a hard wee b.....d and I personally think he would do a great job for us but I dont think any1 will be signing for us til our future is sorted out.

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Still assumption that there will be a team playing next season, still no sfa licence

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The Tansfer embargo doesnt apply to the newco but Green is propsing to accept it to try and gain access to the SPL.The transfer embargo has clauses in it which allow rangers to replace out of contract places not too sure about the players that have left through the transfer of the newco. Think about it how could Green propose to accept that ban when we only have 12 players, its not rocket science.

I think it will be an intresting day tomorrow to see if the SPL chairmen will listen to there fans, now that sky have confirmed that the deal is in danger if rangers are out the SPL, Teams except from Celtic can afford to lose upto a Ł1m a season, that is practically there season wage bill, I think Green's plan might just work.

PS we need to get behind Green and stop challanging him, we are running out of time before the season starts.

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Again with the "Liewell" crap. Mr Lawell runs our club in an honest and responsible way. You are pathetic.

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Hamilton Lad, You are an idiot. Using upper case letters does not make you right.

If the embargo is upheld/accepted. We will not be allowed to sign any players over the age of 18 regardless of how many have left. This is nor rocket science! - Jaxie

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How th ick are some people , if oldco then cant sign anyone as in admin ,got it, as sevco (newco ) not registered as a football team as yet , therefore restrictions apply as in you cant register players with sfa as sevco are not a team got it , wake up and smell the coffee

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Lets be honest Black is a gonk....are these the type of player we are going to rely on..past it..hothead...not very good...God help us.....

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"Youll be surprised in the next few days the kind of power Liewell has with other SPL clubs, Liewell knows he needs a Rangers at the top to make Celtic flourish."

Mmm not sure language like that is going to persuade the Celtic CEO support Rangers. Anyway he has stated that Celtic don't need Rangers to flourish. I would think he and Celtic have other plans in play outwith Scotland.

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When ian black put jelavic out of action and a few others who also suffered as a consequence of his nasty style of play he was slaughtered by everyone on these pages now he is available you want him signed as he is just the type of player we need you really couldn,t make this up

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"celtic have other plans in play outwith scotland" Aye that must be friendlies, because you cant join another league. Get it. well everyone else ends with Get it, so thought I would too.

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I wish people would stop saying we can only sign players under 18 makes me so angry just gose to show they dont read the papar

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Just watch how strong Mr Lawell Oor Peter actually is........

With him at the helm of our great club we certainly don't need a newco to flourish.

Hoopey67

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If the league is proven to be less than honest then imo they will be open to offers from other leagues,seems reasonable that fifa/uefa would nt hold us in a corrupt enviroment

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Celtic won't get into any other league as they are Scottish.

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You were right. ian black agrees to rangers deal

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/109273-ian-black-agrees-to-rangers-move-depending-on-their-league-status/

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Are they? I thought they were Oirish. They don't even fly a saltire

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02 Jul 2012 19:40:05
i need to ask a question sorry.....

If we are...which i think we will , be in DIV 3, what sort of players would we sign?

Experienced?

Youth?


Internationals? {Ed039's Note - Experienced - Yes. Journeymen. Youth - Yes. Cheap with something to prove. Internationals - Yeah Surinam or Cape Varde or sumfin like that maybe)

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Internationals? What you sniffing? We will get D1 journeymen at best. It has to be D1 of we are screwed for at least 10 years. I think if D1 we could be challenging again

J

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100% Scottish and a young squad would be great to see.

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It wont be Div 3, financially its not possible, and they know this. Div 3 would kill us, unless we closed 3/4 of Ibrox until were back in Div 1 at least.

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Why would we want to close 3/4 of Ibrox when 95% of all home games are Rangers supporters?,are you basing your opinion on the majority of fans not sticking with the club?as long as the fans stick with the club then we will be back competing for the spl title within 4 years.I dont mind going to devision 3 and building ourselves back up, knowing that we will be in a more financial state than the rest of the spl.We have been kicked so many times its untrue but guess what ,were still standing.As long as we fill our stadium then who gives 2 hoots about anyone else.We are the biggest away support in scotland.(FACT).Who is going to suffer when we dont attend away matches?Lets concentrate on ourselves and pack Ibrox.The supporters are the club,without us the club is nothing.My boy is 2,i want to take him to games and feel proud like i did for his first match(the Legends game).I for one will make sure im part of our famous support regardless of who or what league we go to. .

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Totally agree with 100% young and ideally Scots, the way all clubs here should be going.

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Post 3, at least a Rangers fan admitting most fans will be doing the walking.... It will be interesting to see the number of season tickets sold if you do enter div 3.

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Ibrox will stay open whatever the division. And no amount of emotional blackmail will help Rangers' cause.

Back to the OP's question, I would agree with the poster who said to concentrate on young Scots. We see minor internationals playing for other SPL clubs and they are rarely any better than our local players.

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Trouble is that till we know what division it is we can't get players to come and we don't know what we can afford.
It could be SPL/SPL2/SFL1/SFL3/non-league/nowhere.
And time is against us.

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You have to salute Turnbull Hutton, if the powers that be are trying to crow bar a non existent club in to the S P L or Div 1 then is shows that they have a prefferance for the establishment club. This is of course is favouritism, it shows that there is corruption in Scottish football, to have a level playing field the people who are "running" the game should clear their desks and give all teams a fair chance, if dodo F C have all the necessary papaer work, ie. 3 years of audited accounts etc. then let them apply to enter Div 3. I think this wouls suit all fair minded followers of the Scottish game {Ed039's Note - But not the clubs themselves financially, you think turnbull is taking the moral high ground? He knows his sides chances of promotion are reduced and fair play, but he is just a mouthpiece enjoying his 30 seconds on Tv)

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02 Jul 2012 18:33:14
ive heard from a few people now that the sfa's orignal ban on transfers of people over 18 is going to stand after all but that it will be relaxed so that rangers will be able to sign up to 5 loan players.how many players would be in the squad now if we managed to get 5 deals done?

i think this might actually work out best as there wont be any funds to buy players this year anyway and come next year this will mean a much better financial footing {Ed039's Note - Source?)

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Upholding the 12 month transfer ban would be contempt of court, undermining Lord Glennie at the Court of Session, who has found it illegal.
The appeals committee at the SFA lead by Lord Carloway now has to give a more appropriate punishment that is available within the SFA regulations.
The crimes in the SFA report on this matter are stated as one level below match fixing, the highest crime.
Neither Rangers nor Whyte completed their fines payments by 21 days which automatically brings further penalties.

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My source is a couple of people i deal with through work who are training to be referees and are at the sfa two to three times a week and the transfer ban can still stand as shown last year with sion.courts cannot overrule football bodies on these matters and fifa will back the sfa on this

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The SFA, Regan, has already stated he will stand by the ruling of Lord Glennie and that the SFA recognizes the court as a supervisory body. They will not challenge the courts decision.

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Why would the ban stand, if SPL membership is declined, then how can they punish as newco, wish no history as so many are keen to point out. The newco will have done nothing wrong!

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All sanctions open for negotiation as conditions for entry to SFL, if agreed by both parties, not contempt of court.

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Did the courts not already over rule the football body on this matter?

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So what your saying @2 is that the SFA will ignore the highest court in Scotland ?

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Surely transfer embargo was for rangers not newco?

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There is a clause in the sfa rules which states that we can sign replacements for any player who leaves the club, so in theory we can replace all the players who left

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I think it will be division 1 next season with sanctions

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So to allow newco in the sfa are again guna make up the rules as they go along i hope every newco gets treated this way or we keep the history

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Are the wheels already grinding to a halt on the sporting integrity train as they tried to railroad rangers out of the SPL. I can’t believe Green is even thinking about accepting terms to clubs who are thinking about a u-turn on kicking Rangers out of the SPL, only because now they realise it’s their clubs that may face extinction. This has been scenario Rangers supporters have had to endure for the last few weeks. We would have to agree to a six point plan that includes a point’s deduction, the transfer embargo stays, and they two are enough to kill any chance of Rangers being competitive. We have already lost most of our team and wouldn’t be allowed to replace them, only 13 players turned up for training first day. We are out of Europe for three years but our gate money is to help other teams that are in the various competitions in Europe, some of the very teams that have been battering the Ranger’s naughty boy for weeks. Why don’t they give us clarity we all know the answer but they won’t come out and say it. We hate you, we don’t want you ever having a chance of winning anything, we would like to continually kick you in the teeth, but can we still have the money you will generate. The bullied become the bullies. Charles Green should tell them to go forth a multiply. If he does that I for one will be backing him. It may be a totally different SPL we find ourselves in if we move up from third, and I for one will laugh.

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"My source is a couple of people i deal with through work who are training to be referees and are at the sfa two to three times a week and the transfer ban can still stand as shown last year with sion.courts cannot overrule football bodies on these matters and fifa will back the sfa on this"


Anyone training to be a Referee attends a weekly class at Glasgow University and are no were near the SFA!!!
once qualified they train at Mearns Castle High School (If in Glasgow) once a week and attend monthly meetings again at the Glasgow Uni!! Please, Rangers are going through a bad enough time without Idiots like you trying to make up Crap everyday!! go and get a job and a life you Muppet!!

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Loan players suggest that teams will actually trust you to pay their wages

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And what will you laugh about,you may not have much of a club left yourself if you go to division 3.its rangers who have created this disaster by years of spending money they didnt have.all the clubs now are doing what would happen to any other team who went bust and thats a fact.rangers shouldnt be treated as a special case-your newco has no debt and is starting from scratch.alot of clubs can only dream of having no debt so do you not deserve a punishment.so far you have had none except from your own players leaving.

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02 Jul 2012 13:16:43
Aluko to Wolves

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Good luck to sone if true.

doesnt owe rangers anything , was the only brightspark of a sore sore season, his goal against celtic will live long

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Good luck to him, he's the only one I don't mind leaving, he bent over backwards to play for us, and if rumours are to be believed, he was only on Ł2.5k a week (compared to Sh*ttaker's Ł26k) so good luck Sone!

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I woulda said he could have played in the EPL but hey fair play to him, hope it works out

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Haven't all the players who left been thrown to the wolves by most of the fans.
Al

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I reckon he's EPL standard too. Certainly for the lower half. But Wolves are re-shaping after last season's disaster. He is connected with other clubs too, so I would say chances of him joining Wolves less than 50%.

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02 Jul 2012 11:21:09
Alejandro Bedoya has reported for training this morning.

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Could be useful! Maybe not what we needed last year but to get promotion, definitely!

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Woo hoo
Thank god
Hope he signs a 10 yr deal
Annans left back is shaking with fear pmsl

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Only coz hes crap and has no chance of finding another club.artybhoy

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Did Ally turn up for training??? Not seen or heard of for a while now!!

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Respect for the loyalty but if there was ever a positive to come from this horrible mess it was a chance to weed out the deadwood. Theres bound to be a rangers youngster who could do as good or better than this guy! And demand less wage

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Now Now, that's really not fair on him, he had his injuries last year, he scored a couple towards the end of the season (when he was fit)

Thank God he's not another turncoat.

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Are you lot never happy moan cos some leave , moan cos some stay

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Bedoya didnt get a chance last season hes a USA international so he must offer something, mabey this will give him the breakthrough he needs....and hey least hes showed up unlike naismith who still took his full wages whilst injured but decided not to come back!

WATP {Ed039's Note - We need to see more of him on a consistent basis to see what he offers)

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02 Jul 2012 10:56:24
Andrew Mitchell has signed a one year deal with Rangers newco.

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Glad to hear it as he's from my home land (NI) I like one or two in the team if it can be helped, what happened to Little has he left? {Ed039's Note - Out of contract with the oldco and last I heard he had instructed his agent to find him a new club, didnt report to training as one of the out of contract players)

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Might be a mistake by Little if that is true Ed. He was really starting to develop and with Naismith, Aluko, Lafferty, etc having gone he would have been more or less guaranteed a starting spot every week which is what he was looking for. I doubt he will get that opportunity elsewhere unless he signs for an SPL club (I doubt they could afford him bar Celtic, and they wouldn't be interested and would give him even less playing time than we did anyway, and he wasn't exactly one of our big earners) or heads into Division 2 or probably lower in England. This would have been a good chance to show what he can do and really put himself in the shop window in terms of moving somewhere next year with a full season of first team experience behind him. Silly (greedy?) boy in my opinion but he is certainly within his rights to go and good luck to him wherever he ends up. I won't overly criticise any player who chooses to leave, they didn't cause our problems and took a hit to try and help the club out.

Brian

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