Rangers Rumours Archive July 27 2012

27 Jul 2012 21:41:34
SOURCE: BBC

Rangers: Conditional membership allows cup tie to go ahead
Rangers have been granted a conditional Scottish FA membership, which will allow Sunday's Ramsdens Cup tie with Brechin City to go ahead.

The relaunched Ibrox club have been trying to obtain the old Rangers' licence to play after the latter headed for liquidation.

But agreement between all interested parties, including the Scottish Premier League, had not been forthcoming.

The permanent transfer of membership is due to take place next week.

A joint statement on behalf of the SFA, SPL, SFL and Sevco Scotland Ltd - the company relaunching Rangers - read: "Following the completion of all legal documentation, the Scottish Premier League will conduct the formal transfer of the league share between RFC (IA) and Dundee FC on no later than Friday 3 August 2012.

"At this point, the transfer of Scottish FA membership will be complete."

Dundee have replaced the old Rangers in the SPL after the SFL agreed to place the new Ibrox team in Division Three.

But the new Rangers needed membership to play any competitive matches in Scotland and negotiations over inheritting the old club's licence were protracted.

The club agreed to incur punishments handed to the old club over disrepute charges, including a year-long transfer ban, which is expected to begin on 1 September.

But issues relating to media rights and an SPL investigation into how the old Rangers paid players in the previous decade were holding up the process.

The key points of the joint statement are:

�The Scottish FA has received all necessary information and documentation from Sevco Scotland Ltd, including details of the company structure, shareholders, financial projections and business plan
�Sevco Scotland Ltd has agreed to accept all conditions relating to RFC (IA)'s charges of bringing the game into disrepute, namely the 12-month transfer embargo, beginning at 0.01a.m on 1st September 2012, and payment of all outstanding fines and costs
�Sevco Scotland Ltd has agreed to settle all outstanding football debts to other members of the Scottish FA plus clubs under the jurisdiction of other football associations
�The SPL and SFL have reached agreement on the purchase of a package of broadcasting rights which will allow the former to include The Rangers FC matches in contracts with broadcast partners
�The SPL has reserved its position in relation to the on-going investigation into EBTs

A line cannot be drawn under the regretful activities of the old club and the new club proceed cleanly into the future, without the authorities investigating the EBTs/ dual contracts and bringing closure to this episode.
The current custodians of the club should show grace and humility and actually WELCOME the SPL committee with open arms. The fans, the clubs and society need the truth.
The investigation is inevitable, Rangers would be wise to welcome it instead of resisting it. Sporting Integrity is too big to fail.

Don't know what anyone else's thoughts are, but personally I think the SPL have a cheek and feel it is down right cheek and a kick in the teeth, if true, that part of the deal to permit a conditional license to Rangers is accepting a tv deal to obviously benefit the SPL?! I have no problem with the SFL benefitting from any tv deal, in fact I think that the SFL, and only the SFL, should benefit from any tv deal relating to Rangers v any SFL team. To me, if this deal is true, then it just makes a mockery of the whole Scottish football system, in particular the SPL, and SFA for allowing it to happen. Now, don't get me wrong, any tv, publicity etc of Scottish football I feel can only be a good thing, but in this instance where the SPL and SFA have made their position with regards to Rangers very clear, I feel is a very large piece of arrogance, insecurity and down right cheek, to expect and demand income from a team that they clearly thwarted and wanted nothing to do with. The people involved should be ashamed. The SFL teams, chairmen and fans should have something to say about it and demand, protest and moan that the money is returned solely to the SFL! It truly smarts of the greedy, arrogant, incompetent fat-cats of the SPL and SFA wanting and obsessing over their cake and eating it too. In my opinion, hypocrisy and anti-sporting integrity at its best! J

Sporting Intergrity to big to fail hop along mate you are totally boring my friend.

Why not let the investigation to see if the old co was guilty or innocent of ebts to be conducted first but still give new rangers the the paperwork to play meanwhile if found guilty of any wrong doing take action this seems fairer lets get back to football for the sake of the game im sure most other fans are sick of hearing about this lets move on

Don't think rangers actual problem is with the investigation but more with the fact that certain ppl wanted us to give up our right of appeal me for one think's that doncaster and petrie are liewell's puppets and thomson of utd just seem's to hate rangers so i ask thomson if rangers are found guilty and therefore striped of titles will your club do the sporting integrity thing and hand back all money you made when in season 03/04 your club should have been relegated instead of your nieghbours dundee there for giving you sponsorship money and tv revenue you should not have had.

Totally agree with the above poster.

Totally agree with #1, and Ally is not doing The Rangers cause any favours with his outbursts. Any other team would have been suspended (and then expelled) for the activities that the former Rangers management conducted on behalf of their club. Before anyone shouts we have not been found guilty of anything yet, Yes I agree you haven't, but the screaming and crying from The Rangers current management team clearly indicates they know they will be found guilty by the independant panel, and that punishments will follow.

"sporting integrity" Has been lost in this whole sorry affair a long time ago by the greed of the SPL & SFA. Newco can't play in SPL though they want there media rights for the money. You don't want us in you're league fine so why should you get any money from our media rights this should go to the SFL the only body that have shown any "sporting Integrity".

"Sporting integrity" !! The SPL clubs have no integrity. They have shown themselves to be parasites through their pursuit of media rights to Rangers' games. Classic double standards.

Moreover, where does the investigation of double contracts lead ? If Rangers are found guilty and titles stripped ... Are Celtic and other clubs going to sue Rangers, the SFA and the SPL itself for loss of revenue for not qualifying for Europe ? It's just going to open up a can of worms and litigation. Time to draw a line under the whole thing and just accept the reality that Rangers won these titles and cups ... You can't rewrite history.

It's a fact that Rangers won these competitions and no one can ever change that.

Now we know we will be playing tommorrow can i ask the question ? Who am i really supporting? because i know my old team are not liquiadated yet! and are still @Ibrox in some capacity.
I also know my team are still technically part of the SPL as we still control our legal share? I feel i am being unloyal by following "another" team ? because my old club are still officially in exsistince am i being a "turncoat" by supporting another outfit???

Licence will become full automatically when SPL transfer oldco shares in SPL to Dundee, they are the only ones who can scupper it now - bet they leave it to the last possible second.
Just watched Charles Green interview on Rangers tv and he comes across quite well, so far dispite the suspicion about his motives he has delivered all he said he would - I for one will now commit to a season ticket (provided the website let's me)

Green has to hold his ground on the EBT enquiry or be forever known as Doncaster's 'bitch'. Doncaster is a moron who is in Septic FC's pocket and he and the SPL will bottle it due to the fact that Sky could well walk away without Rangers games to televise leaving a number of SPL clubs in the gutter, best place for them!!!!! The whole thing is all about getting their grubby hands on money generated by Rangers. John F

There is nothing about sanctions in the statement, only about SPL reserving the right to investigate.
This only tells part of the agreement, imo. I think an investigation is necessary but may be there's an agreement against accepting sanctions or sanctions being levied.
Would be a good deal if that's the case - time will tell.
Not happy that the SPL are taking a share of media rights after their actions regarding Rangers. Cheek doesn't go far enough but what have the SFA done throughout this whole debacle?
They need to sort themselves out and look at stepping aside for more capable people as they have made a catastrophic mess out of a difficult situation.

Incompetent ?? the spl get rights to show sevco matches and you call them incompetent ??

You cheated you lose the titles they dont belong to you and should be returned to their rightfull owners it will leave us on 48 oldco on 49 this year we will equal your 49 next year we will win 50 and be the most successful team in scottish history and yous all think it will be boring ... exciting times lay a head ... party time

Rangers fans are correct to suggest the SFL should be the ONLY leagues to profit from the TV deal. I agree totally with this.

But i think they surely cant be allowed to wiggle there way out of facing the music over dual contracts.

If sevco get the oldco sfa membership and thats enough to call newco rangers then would it not make sense to support dundee instead as they will get the oldco spl share so they will be as much rangers as newco will be ??

John F- Green don't care if the title's get taken off Rangers.HE'S ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY.Ally's the one bumping his gum's about title's being taken away.If the power's that be, tell Mr.Green if you don't accept title's being took away you won't get a licence, he will accept sanction. Wait with bated breath to see what Ally will do,I think he will walk, because i think HE'S WORKING HIS TICKET.
Tam

The SFA has done everything to protect Rangers at every turn. Including threatening SPL chairmen and SFL chairmen.
Only minimal mandatory penalties and a ridiculous 12 month transfer ban, not even allowed in the regulations instead of what should have been suspension for the quantum of crimes.

27 Jul 2012 21:39:49
Conditional licence granted and full licence expected next week. At last the incompetent balloons at the SFA and SPL have done something partly right! BBC division 3 webpage.

DM12

27 Jul 2012 17:21:44
Any one know what's happening with the 3rd strip that was meant to be released on 26th?

Bigjy

Can anyone tell me whats happening to the First Strip ...... will it be blue ,, light or otherwise ,, will it have the traditional Rangers crest ,, will it have five stars ........?? just askin like .

Who gives a monkeys - sfa licence is only important thing on the agenda at this particular moment in time !!

Yes my missus went into jjb in belfast today n was told that theyd got email to send all tops back n reduce new hme shirt,rumour has it that main sponsor has pulld out!

Going on sale besifde the first and second strips as collectors items.

They cancelled it tho some1 on fb pre-ordered it an came thru the post yesterday obviously by mistake it black wae blue thin lines on it he has pics to prove this

I bought 1 in enniskillen on tuesday in sports direct didnt see it on rangers website

Forget all that we are in lets play football up the gers

Third strip Is the last thing we need to worry About .what we dont have à licence to play

Who cares about a 3rd strip !!

Lets just get up to Brechin on Sunday and show what a fantastic support we have.

The place will be jumping !!

Bring it on !!

Heard a strong rumour we will have to change strips and that is why the home one is so cheap and the third kit has been put on hold

27 Jul 2012 17:17:11
Evening/morning Bears,
Dean Windass (yes, the old fella from Hull) has offered to come out of retirement and play for us. He mentioned how he loved SPL football and the fans when he played against us for Aberdeen almost 20 years ago.
This is after Robbie Savage's statement on playing for us.
He was treated for depression after a failed suicide attempt, I think being back in football would do him good, whether he plays or not. He wont demand high wages (if any really) and he could be a mentor as apposed to a player (and play only when we NEED to) even though he hasn't played for 3 years, I think he is worth it for the mentor role of our youngsters, and for emergency backup really. It would help us, and help him, physically and mentally. Depression is a horrible disorder that affects a lot of us.

Anyways, what do you think?

WATP Steve

If we sign all these so called "oldies" we'll be qualified to play in the over-40's Sunday pub league insted of SFL3!

HA DEAN WINDASS. oh how the mighty have fallen :)
this woulda been treated with the contempt it deserves last year. but now it could be a reality.
now excuse me whilst i go change my drawers after peshin them there :D
frankiebhoy

Mental illness affects 1 in 4 people so I applaud your stance regarding Mr Windass's welfare , however from a footballing aspect I would suggest that presently he is way short of even Conference and Ryman Leauge standard - and that voice would drive you mad in a dressing room....!

Yes m8 , u state some very good points & could work well with the younger members of our squad

Don't knock the Conference. The standard is almost certainly higher than SFL3. Dean Windass was a fine player in his prime. I dunno, though. Would Rangers not be better off building a team of youngsters than entertaining the wishes of various old footballers who always wanted to wear the blue? {Ed039's Note - Yes of course, looks like some folk trying to get their name in mainstream media again)

As i say bears, he wouldn't play every game. Obviously due to age/fitness, but having him their as a leader and eventually a coach for our young ones would be nice. Also, would get his life back on track with the mental illness.
Very happy so far anyways! I hope he and Savage sign, both could be great for us as backups/future coaches :)
WATP Steve

In reply to the poster saying dont knock the conference - As a supporter of AFC Wimbledon ( and as a regular poster on here ) , I am totally aware of the standard of player that plays in pryamid level 5 and 6 in England , and can therefore state with accuracy that Mr Windass would struggle at that level of football- using AFCW as a guide -their squad is full of Under 21's in Div 2 , and Warren Cummings (ex Dundee Utd , Bourenmouth and holder of 1 Scotland cap v Hong Kong ) has signed this year aged 32 to guide the younger pro's and add experience to the defence. Marcus Gayle ex Rangers , who was Reserve Team Coach at AFCW until the late end of last season is now manager at Staines FC in the Ryman Leauge. So , as a Rangers man who has followed AFCW's rise through the English pyramid I would hope that I could help identify players who would be of use to Rangers, and in no way does Mr Windass;s experience match a player such as Mr McCulloch , for example. So for me , Mr Windass would not meed the needs of Rangers FC , in its present form.

Its a no goer same for savage, been decent players, well past it now- i watch derby as i was born there and savage was ok for a cheating b**tard, there just getting thier names in the papers, id prefer to see rangers sign players that will do a job in div 3, 2 and 1 not guys who think they still can
stg

27 Jul 2012 16:48:37
I fear we will have no footie as no one will back down

I think there maybe a temp license issued to complete the cup game, to allow negotiations to continue, but, in the end I think the authorities will have to stick to their guns, FIFA/EUFA are I think forcing the SFA to take a hard line, if no backing down from Green then no football next season, allowing the SFA to save face with their bosses and Green to save face with supporters that he had the gumption to stand up for the club in saving losing previous titles.....seems like a rock and a hard place...

Bill

ONLY ONE CAN BACK DOWN OR ITS GAMES A BOGGIE!

Good, why should CG back down. We should tell the SPL to go and get stuffed or they will continue to put the boot into us. Friendlys for the season and see how they all get on. WATP. Vote no to independence in 2014.

Well said. I said this ages ago that EUFA AND fIFA are calling the shots.

Who will sanction the friendly's Dumbo ?
Tam

100% correct.

All we have had since administration is the boot laid into us by all and sundry. What the rest forget is that Rangers & Septic have kept scottish football going.

We should tell the SFA, SPL, SFL to f... off , in the end they need us just as much.

Emm...you can't play friendlies without a license. Unless you want all these friendlies to be behind closed doors, which doesn't bring in any money.

Then Spartans would get your place in division 3 this season and there would be no room for Rangers next season.

But other than that, playing friendlies all season is a great idea!

We can have friendly games behind closed doors... but then where does the money come from? {Ed039's Note - No fee for these games. They are bounce games)

Its not a question of anyone backing down the rules should simply be applied end of.

27 Jul 2012 13:31:49
Pantelis Kafes of aek athens to sign for us


HAMILTON LAD

Hi ed any truth in kyle signing for us {Ed039's Note - I hope not, younger fitter players should get a chance. If he cant stay fit on English Prem and SPL pitches he has no chace at some places in SFL3)

27 Jul 2012 11:41:37
Fair play to big Beattie.
He has agreed to play as a trialist on Sunday if Gers operate on a temporary licence for this game.
He has at least 3 offers on the table, but it's in the big mans genes that he doesn't do walking away.

LOL......SEVEN clubs in five years and he doesnt do walking away ? ?

Dont think we can play trialists in a cup game

Aye....but he'd walk to Rangers even in the 3rd div, i think he's proven that.
Unlike some of our ''Rangers men''

The same guy who left Rangers as a youth to go to Celtic? Try and engage your brain before spouting pointless rhetoric

He is a mug,say he gets a bad injury, The rangers wont aid him and nobody else will be interested.

He was released from rangers he never left so get your facts right he's a life long rangers fan as his all his family many of whom are members of the moodiesburn supporters bus the same bus Craig use to get on as a boy

Know for a fact he was getting let go by rangers youth. he and his family have always been rangers through and through.and any way we are not in a position to knock anyone back .sogood luck and live youre dream

7 clubs ? ,craig beattie has just came to his senses , he wants to play for a big club now lol doug t.s.o

LOL he was released from rangers and then signed for celtic. we didnt want him!!!!!!

If this is the best offer on the table for Beattie, then it speaks volumes. He was a complete dumplin at Celtic and he hasn't gotten much better, i'm afraid.

Clubs are aloud to play two trialists in the ramsden cup first round games....

Aye the same guy that put the final nail in your coffin at hampden when lennon threw another canary doug t.s.o

I think Beatty has limped away from most of his clubs.

Final nail in 'our' coffin? What you on about mate? As far as i'm aware Celtic are Scottish Champions just now and there was only one club in Scotland that ended up in a coffin this season, and that was Rangers. R.I.P.

What does r.i.p mean ? rangers in progress,you wont admit it but if gers hadnt gone into admin you wouldnt have had anything to celebrate ,look at the way beattie celebrated ,youd think he won the world cup ,i think what was going through his mind was revenge is sweet doug t.s.o

Rangers in progress! You've practised that one, haven't you! Your editor keeps rejecting my posts about how newco are going to be operating with a bare minumum of �12.5m cash shortfall this and every other season as things presently stand. Is that progress? And tell me, how can a liquidated club progress, exactly? My prediction? The newco Rangers will be in administration before this season is over.

P.S. I think you'll find Celtic moved ahead of Rangers in the SPL WELL before Rangers lost 10 points as a consequence of entering admiistration; a consequence that Rangers and every other club voted for in order to ensure financial affairs in Scottish football were kept in order. Ah, the irony... {Ed001's Note - no one knows how much of a shortfall there will be, the figures being bandied about are spurious, little more than pure guesswork. You are talking utter tripe, in short, there is absolutely no way of knowing how much the club is short. Do your figures include the possible renting out of Murray Park and Ibrox throughout the season? What amount of ticket sales do they allow for? I guarantee you have no idea of any of these things, because no one does. How can they? This situation has never arisen before, so one can only guess at what happens! So please stop trying to scaremonger.}

Is Doug t.s.o a Jambo now !.Well i suppose it's better than newco f.c.
Tam

No still here and still following on the greatest team in the world rangers football club ,yes for the day i was rooting for the gorgie men lol ,other poster we are not talking about the losing of 10 points what we are talking about is the leading up to administration where the heart was getting knocked out of the players doug.t.s.o.ps cmon the gers and the jamtarts lol

27 Jul 2012 11:13:40
Kevin Kyle in training at Murray Park this morning and Craig Beattie's agent (Mel Stein) in talks with Charles Green about a deal, Mc Coist confirmed to Beatts that a deal can be done after the licence is granted.
Black deal is done.
No licence will be granted today, just a temporary one to let the Brechin game go ahead, and Ally thinks that he may be allowed to field two trialists, if so...expect Beattie to be one of them.

“The physio I am working with knows a few people in football and I asked him if he could get an agent pal to speak to Rangers for me," he said.

“I wouldn’t cost the earth and, at the same time, Ally McCoist would know what he was getting.

"I would certainly be more than capable of doing a job for them and it might not be as stressful on my body playing in the Third Division.

“I’ve heard nothing back but it’s something I might pursue if nothing happens at St Johnstone.”

He's touting himself but Ally isn't biting

Might not be biting, but Kevin Kyle ''DID'' train with Rangers today, so Ally must have bit enough to invite him in.

He was meeting with Rangers today, not training. Has a lot of convincing to do over that injury.

Not just meeting today he also trained pictures on rangers official site

Kevin Kyle: at least a stone and a half/two stone overweight and spends 3/4 of the season injured.

Ian Black; hammer thrower; liability; will be a target for rough players in div 3; suits The Rangers.

Beattie: Dumplin; first touch like an elephant; half the season injured; rarely ever hits double figures.

Nuff said.

27 Jul 2012 09:08:38
Anyone know the situation with regards to the American guys ? Obviously they are still there training etc, but does that mean they are now taking a wage from Newco and therefore have transferred across ? Because if thats not the case why give them training facilities etc, if they have no intention of playing in 3rd Div ??? {Ed039's Note - They are allowed to leave, they have to fix themselves up wi a club I believe for a nominal fee)

Edu and Bedoya were still in Glasgow as of last night - saw them shopping together at Sainsburys Crow Rd last night.

They are prob going to leave but until they find a club they re going to sty with us

I take it they are currently on full wages then as is Wallace and others whose contracts have not changed at this point?These players will do what players at Portsmouth are doing and just stay unitl decent contract same or near as one they have now comes along? hwo would pay a fee nominal or not for players whoare going to be asked to move on anyway ? for nothing

Now is the time for all true Rangers supporters to get behind the team and support them as no other supporters in the UK or nether regions could ever imagine. We will stand strong and united in our endeavours to sail our ship not only to safe haven but to withstand any hurricane which may befall us. let us all unite in supporting our team and set sail towards the positive future which awaits us. Get your ticket to the only show in town.

Glasgow Rangers till I Die. We. Really ATP

When and where can I purchase a ticket

Ozzie Al {Ed039's Note - From ticket office when licence situation is sorted out)

27 Jul 2012 00:03:24
T yuor thoughts on this list from Rangers Media site
Manuel Pascali (Kilmarnock) – The Italian is a solid defender and leader who is now 30. Proven at SPL level after having been in Scotland since 2008; has also played lower league Italian football.

Tom Hateley (Motherwell) – The 22 year old son of the former Rangers legend Mark, Hateley has proved himself more than capable in the SPL; a versatile player who has an impressive set piece ability.

John Sutton – (Hearts) – A controversial suggestion perhaps, but a proven goalscorer at English lower levels and also the SPL. Out of favour at Hearts last year.

Allan Gow – (Exeter) Ex Ger Gow never got a look in during his first stint at the club. At 29, would this be a chance to come back and prove he is still capable?

Steven Thompson – (St Mirren) – Possibly too similar to the likes of Beattie and McCulloch, however Thompson is a player who knows all about life at Ibrox and has improved with age. At 33 he still seems to have a lot to offer following a successful debut season at the Buddies.

Gary Teale- (St Mirren) – Teale has been mentioned in various reports and despite being 34, still seems to have decent pace and trickery on the wing, which would surely compliment a big man centre forward.

Gary Harkins – (Kilmarnock) A solid player who has played lower division football in Scotland; skilful and a renowned passer of the ball.

Good analysis mate and all realistic targets.

Give youth a chance, what's the point in Murray park if they don't give youth a chance??

S nic

I think you shouls sign Teale and Gow

"Gary Harkins â“ (Kilmarnock) A solid player who has played lower division football in Scotland; skilful and a renowned passer of the ball." So why is he at Killie ?

Alan Gow and Thomson both under contract, and Gow has just signed a deal with Exeter

Harkins is celtic daft. a know him well as wee come from the same town (greenock) He worked is way up from div 1 to spl so why would he want to go to div 3. doesnt make sense

Teale is a no go for me. At 34 too old and a waste of a wage when we have the likes of Mitchell, Naismith and McLeod who can all play wide.
Pascali is a good shout, always liked him and still has a few good years in him, although a player Ally should look at for centre half IMO is Steven Watt, former Chelsea lad now at Dover in the conference. At 27 and with his experience in Scottish football already with ICT and Ross County it would be worth an enquiry at least.
Sutton is too similar to McCulloch as is Thompson, although i doubt McCulloch will be able to play a full season given his age/past injuries but wouldn't imagine Sutton or Thompson to accept being backup/rotated in division 3.
Like Harkins, again a good shout. Heard a rumour about Alex Neill last week (Hamilton) he'd be superb for us but unlikely IMO.
J1985

Why would John Sutton be controverisal? Because his brother played for them? Why not say that Pascali would be controversial because he's a catholic? They only controversy would be if we singed a player that wasn't good enough.

Gow won't come back under ally as the 2 had a big fall out, thats why gow never got a look in

Gow was rotten thats why he never got a look in

Gow? He's failed at every team he's 'played' for.

26 Jul 2012 22:44:53
why has the sfl website removed the rangers fc from the fixtures and league table?

They say they are updating the site

They have been wise up until now we must therefore asume they have got it right again -now not enough time to get membership sorted{legal paperwork takes 6 hours}

Doh......... Why do you think ...maybe membership will help.?..

SFA, SPL and SFL are trying to intimated Rangers !!

We need to march on Hampden this weekend if the licence doesn't come through.

That would really embarrass the SFA with the world watching. There could be more rangers fans there than Olympic football spectators !!

Rangers have never been on the SFL fixtures and league table. They have deleted Stranraer and left a blank space in their place on the fixtures.

Confirmed , I checked, its true.

Because liewall is the puppet master

Just checked talking p.sh

Dundee replaced by club 12 in SPL table too. I smell a fish!

Which website, please add a link

Been on the SFL site and Peterhead v Rangers in the first week fixtures along with details of Ramsdens cup tie and league cup tie's. so this is utter lillian gish

Puppet master ? don't be a tit.
Tam

Well I have just looked at SFL and SPL sites. No Rangers on SFL site and a Club 12 on SPL site. So what does this mean Rangers and Dundee not mentioned on respective sites fixture and league listings? {Ed039's Note - I don't think they were updated properly)

Dundee and Club 12 are listed on the SPL site. Basically duplicate entries for the fixtures, one with Club 12, then underneath the same fixture with Dundee. {Ed039's Note - Fixture lists are developed and then copyrighted, this might have something to do with there being no amendments)

Oh, c'mon. Do you really believe that the website would make the changes before official announcement for everyone to find? The webmaster just does not know so puts in the facts as they stand. So many conspiracy theories and it is grossly unfair. It is not good business to chucke out Rangers/Servco.The Rangers or whatever.... Andfor the posters who wish the SPL failure then you are a disgrace to the team you supposedly support.

Not another March on Hampden ffs ! what did the last one achieve except make all concerned look daft.

Rangers still has the SPL share and has not transferred it over to Dundee. Rangers have to transfer the share. The SPL cannot force them to relinquish the share, but when Rangers are liquidated the share becomes available.
The SPL cannot officially say that DUNDEE are Club 12 until the share is transferred.

We're back on they were just updating it! Chill !

No Dundee in SPL league table.
No Rangers in 3rd Division table.

Surely not another turn?! Lawell and Doncaster were in London speaking to Sky the other day but surely even the threat of Sky pulling out wouldn't overwrite the SPL's love of 'sporting integrity' over business?

This whole thing is a joke - Brechin have paid for police, printed lots of programmes and even repainted parts of the stadium in anticipation of TV crews! Totally unfair on the SFL teams as well as ourselves that this shambles still hasn't been sorted.