Rangers Rumours Archive May 22 2012

22 May 2012 20:41:49
fellow bears if we can keep all our players for next season and with the transfer embargo, what would be your team, formation, subs etc. which 18 year olds could we sign, can we get Gattuso and Novo to retire then come out of retirement and sign for us via the trialist loop hole. what kind of team can we put out for next season ?. I honestly think we can still win the league if all of the above can happen. I have my idea of a team and formation, but would like to see your thoughts. Catweazle-talkingbone.

Mcgregor
whittaker goian boca wallace
edu mccabe
naismith davis aluko
mcculloch

just a thought right enough, but i highly doubt we will keep all our players tbh.
ness not in there as no guarantee he will be fit. (4-2-3-1)

BALLYBOY

Bring guys out Of retirement is a good call. I'd go for McCloy, Jardine, Wishart, Greig, McCadam, Hurlock, Wilkins, Bett, Spackman, Mols, Subo .... you are a person GET REAL!

I admire you optimism. Will that optimism still be there after the BBC documentary tomorrow night ? Somehow I don't think so ! My guess is there will be criminal charges following this programme. This is a disaster not only for rangers but for the whole of Scottish football

Novo lol your kidding right?

Typical bear, Look for ways to get round the rules Again. Dont you guys Ever Learn??

Cat- Is that your post mate?,or an imposter?
Previously O.B.

What is it with you lot and Loopholes?!

There is a ban on all REGISTRATIONS OF PLAYERS AGED 18 OR OVER, which means you cannot sign Novo or Gattuso or anyone else older than 17 years and 364 days

Do you want the shennanigans to continue by exploiting yet more loopholes. Next time we step out of line we are finished.

Gatusso via trialist loophole
ha ha ha ha what a bunch of cheaters you just don't get it do you

You cant get Gattuso or Novo or anybody else there is no trialist loophole under this embargo best hope is trying to keep players which is why I seen Healy is in talks to extend his contract

Get novo and gattuso to retire? They don't want to play for us that badly. I expect gattuso to sign for someone else prob in Italy or Russia or China for bumper pay day then if he wants to play for rangers that much why won't he try sign next summer.

Through this post us fellow bears are being made to look stupid lets take the medicine and get the club back to full fitness no wonder we get a bad name are some fellow bears in the same planet rule bending wont do us any favours lets learn from our mistakes then we can move on as a rangers fan im really disapointed in this attatude the sooner we get this sorted the better attatudes will need to change and start living in the real world as a bear im really saddened the way the club has been run im disapointed too in the buisneses and other clubs that have lost money in this debacle i as a true bear would follow rangers in div 3 as long as everyone got paid first as for the boycot i will be following on to support the team i want us to come out the other side as a respected club not a front for some dodge lets get this sorted who agrees ?

Lol win the league next season the 3rd divisions yours for the taking

This shows the moral standard of a certain group of Hector fans...we have got away with cheating in the past, so no one will bother if we do it again..... Sorry Hector fan but we are now watching your every move.... hope you do decide to breach the embargo.... will be fun to watch more penalities being impossed agaist you.

The only way we could get gatusso is if we could agree a deal with milan to give him a years contract at the salary we would be paying him the loan him out for a year paying his wages {Ed014's Note - No player of 18 or over can be registered by the Gers.NONE...NOBODY....NADA....NANTY...ZERO!!!!

They have to be under 18. Ie 16 or 17

Keep smokin, ya dafty.
We can't sign ANY, and I mean ANY, players over 18 years of age.
We are already being scrutinised by the world for our wrong-doings. Its time to play fair.
And forget about keeping any of the big names. They are OFF!

Novo has a contract with legia warszaw

Maybe Novo could sign as two U-18 players if we cut him in half

Another loop hole looked for, give up the loop holes and conduct business in a proper manner

22 May 2012 15:53:06
its went pretty quiet with no news coming outfor a few days is this a good thing or bad thing ?
BALLYBOY

The calm before the storm I think.
Liah Smit

I was thinking that today also....I suspect(if going by past events) this develops into a breaking story that has been sat on for a few days. I think they already have their stories ready from the documentary and maybe developments of the consortium....who knows I am sure by the end of the week we will find out why it has been so quiet of late.

Its a lot to expect news every day
things dont happen that fast in the real world

If there was any good news on any subject they would release it. They don't hold back good news.

After tomorrows programme on BBC Rangers are dead in the water. If the SFA or SPL do nothing EUFA will hammer them. Ayr United dodged a bullet telling Murray to get lost before his mega ego bought Rangers to spite them. Remember he was a lifelong Ayr United fan when he tried to buy them. Adois amigos

Murray fell out of love with Rangers when Martin O'Neil won 3 titles.... Rangers fans were calling him for everything because he wouldn't spend to get the worlds best players. Then Gordon Strachan won three titles and Murray was receiving dogs abuse....apparently he called Ragers fans ungrateful b'stads. Is this his deliberate payback?

Well its even been a wee while since duff and duffer have "released a statement"
BALLYBOY

NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS

is what people usually say.

22 May 2012 12:28:21
ed could you explain this for me please,with the timescale of things if a cva is not agreed then we all know it has to be the newco route,is this going to be achieved as this could take between 8 to ten weeks,im hearing that rangers might not be playing next season and will have to reapply for the 2013_14 season(hope you can shed some light on this ed, cheers) tr7
{Ed014's Note - I'm no expert on it all but I'm sure that Rangers in some form will be playing next season.

Result of CVA will not be known till 6th July. D&P will still be under a legal obligation to ensure that the creditors interests are paramount. The transfer of assets eg players contracts, properties and trade marks will not be a single seemless transaction. It has been reported that the players become free agents and with no money coming in from season ticket sales to pay wages many may be forced to leave.

The real threat is rangers stay in spl with a 24 point penalty (10 + 1/4 of last seasons points).... to start with

The real threat is bogged down in legal wrangle's we cease to exist. Remember Craig White has a legal charge over Ibrox and still owns a controlling interest in Rangers which should be sufficient stop the sale of the property to Newco.

I really cannot see the CVA NOT being accepted. The CVA proposal that will be put forward is for £134 million, the same amount that Rangers owe(in the worst case scenario) so it would be rather silly NOT to accept it. Ive saw some posts on here suggesting that the £8.5 million is the value of the CVA....utter garbage. This is the price that has been put forward to BUY the club.

Stu-man

"Result of CVA will not be known till 6th July"

It will be later than that as Green/D&P have missed the deadline to get the proposal to creditors.

This isnt to say that they wont provide one or anything but the creditors need to be provided with the proposal and left with a set time to consider, 6th of July is too soon as creditors haven't recieved the proposal as yet.

Mac

I would be VERY surprised if Rangers weren't playing SPL football next season, whatever the financial arrangements that happen between now and then.

Stu-man.in the words of waynes world,ARE YOU MENTAL

If as suggested the creditors were to be paid in full there would be no need for a CVA. Also if Craig White was being offered £8.5m for his shares he would be long gone. Green is hoping to buy the shares for an undisclosed amount and introdce funds sufficient to pay the creditors a small fraction of the amount due. This guy is not daft he wants to make money.

8.5 million ....

-2 million for admins who get paid first...

So 6.5 mill for 134mill debt worst case, so that 5p in pound , or slightly more as a mill or two to come into pot... (from other clubs)

Cfeditor

Stu-man,don't ever remember seeing or reading that there will be £134m in the kitty. As far as I'm aware the money to be put into Rangers is £8.5m. I will bow to your better knowledge if you can point us to were you picked up this piece of info.
Al

Ed correct me if I am wrong but is it not the case any newco will not be able to use the Rangers crest, five stars or indeed play in the same strip. Essentially it is a completely new Club. {Ed001's Note - it really depends, the Newco can buy those things.}

£8.5m in CVA pot(won't happen anyway)

£3m to D&P
£1.5 to Close Brothers(Fixed Charge)
£4m to Floating Charge holder(CW we think)

All unsecured creditors inc HMRC,football clubs etc will receive nothing.
HMRC,however can still get a result that suits them.They can have RFCs head on a stick to wave at anyone else who they are taking action against,thus collecting more money than any CVA would pay them.
Liquidation,same scenario.Unsecured creditors will receive nothing due to floating charge holder being paid first.

22 May 2012 10:22:24
Does anyone on here know or have heard any rumours that we are looking at some 18 year olds to take on board at all?

No and the reason for that is that we can only sign players UNDER 18 years old

No but i think we should be looking for loans of players from teams like barca and madrid.

any team that have good youth academies, and what to let players go out to get experence,. that way players of that level would more than cut it in the spl..

Hector fan, you can look at as many 18 year olds as you like...you just can't sign them.... you can only sign players up to the day before their 18th birthday.... can you not keep up the pace.... its not rocket science.

So are we not even allowed players aged 18? I was under the impression it was players upto and including 18years of age. {Ed014's Note - It is only players under 18 that can be signed.}

And rangers relationship with real and barca is? why would they lend young players to rangers ....... dream on

Real or Barca would not risk young prospects in the SPL with the shocking pitches and sh*t players playing against them why risk taking them out a good system. the insurance alone would make this option to expensive
DB77

Why would barca and Madrid loan players to
Rangers? To develop their careers perhaps? Rangers came very close to getting messi and iniesta on loan when rijkaard was barca boss. In fact it was MacLeish who pulled out of the iniesta deal on account of him being too small! Don't believe me? Read graham hunter's book "the making of the greatest team in the world"