21 Feb 2013 21:09:43
Am I the only rangers fan that is strongly against us moving to england? really you want a move to england? no old firm which is my fave game in world football, we would never win another tittle ever, yes the sfa has punished us and we deserved it we can't hold a grudge over them forever its their job, anyone that agrees with me, we could arrange to meet charles green and tell him how it would destroy our club, say if intrested.
Got to laugh at fans ( from both sides ) they complain when players jump ship and move down south and wonder why they can leave the old firm but when it comes to the crunch the whole clubs would jump ship so what's the difference?
Good call mate bored with all this p. h let's get back to bieng the best of where we are . jmgers
Why would we never win another title?
The SFA & SPL have punished our club severely and provided little support instead of punishing the individuals who caused the problem in the first place. Admittedly there was pressure on them to do this applied by other fractions (Mainly the green side followers and others jealous of our success). They allowed this to cloud there wisdom and hit our club with several punishments unheard of in any other soccer countries. They are responsible for the death of the greatest club game on the planet. We owe them nothing and I for one do not agree with you that we would never win anything again. I firmly believe that within five years we would be challenging for major honours whichever league we are in, indeed it may be a lot harder to achieve anything in Scotland, because of the anti Rangers Agenda. The powers that be in Scotland will handicap Rangers any way they can to let Celtic catch up to our trophy haul. You only need to look at the kangaroo Court being used at the moment to strip us of titles as evidence of this.
Good Day fellow Bears
Rosehearty Bear Here…….
I don’t know about picking up sticks and shipping south to play our football, these days its exceedingly difficult to know who is there for the good of Rangers and who is looking out for a better lining for there extremely deep pockets!
I actually think we should continue on this track we are on at the moment, the wee man Ally has and is doing a splendid job, I know there is a section of fans out there who want him out, but I ask you this has he not conducted himself with loyalty, dignity and above all he has shown his love for his beloved Rangers, he has done and endured what few could have endured given the circumstances, ( and came through it all on top) and we are now knocking on the door of the division three title, and still you’s find fault. The man has done a terrific job of working within his means, financial and a host of other constraints.
I reckon we should stay put and fight our way back to the top table, there are plenty out there who would be more than happy if we turned tail and ran south, I would love nothing more than to see my team back on top of Scotland’s top table, then we can give them all the proverbial bird, give the wee man and his royal blues a chance to show the SFA SFL and all the Rangers haters we are back and we did it without your support, we can do this. I also think that Mr. Green needs to shut his cake hole at times and concern himself with only footballing matters…
Only when we have achieved all these things then, and only then should we think about moving south, but if we go now! We will always be tagged as spitting the dummy and running and hiding.
Let us see where we are in four years, let us see how we are respected in four years, let us see how financially well off we are in four years we cannot and shouldn’t work against our club we need to work with the club and it management, the post about getting together and talking to Charlie boy, that’s exactly what should be happening, we can be strong and be on top once again, if we stand together, with our strong support and good management we will put Rangers and the Club back where it belongs.
Its great being a bear…
Rosehearty True Blue…….
>"Why would we never win another title?"
Come on - you in div 4 in scotland, how would you win anything in EPL, FA Cup? Against Manu, Liverpool, each week.
True level in EPL is wigan/southampton. flirting with relegation each season.
No Europe - EVER!!
not going to happen.
Explain the punishments u were given that u think are undeserved, what punishment di u think rangers should have got for there wrong doings
To the nameless poster above: "The powers that be in Scotland will handicap Rangers any way they can to let Celtic catch up to our trophy haul. " You have truly brought a whole new level of paranoia haven't you LOL. Yeah, everyone in Celtic and the SFA were in cahoots with David Murray and Craig Whyte for all those years bringing Rangers down from the inside to allow Celtic to catch up. SB
We would have a chance of winning the league. Both Old Firm clubs would get major investment and the best players in the world would sign for them. that's a fact. The only thing holding us back is the other teams in England know it would push them further down the money tree. The OF have outstanding support and it would be incredible if we got a place down there. coisty09
This is a terrible post, We would have the chance to build a top football club in U. K/europe that can no longer be done in the scottish football league watching rangers play teams like man utd, man city, chelsea, arsenal, liverpool, spurs, everton is a million times better than celtic, dundee, dundee utd, aberdeen, st mirren, hibs, hearts, It would take a few good years to make it if the move came but it would be fantastic if it does
Why wouldn't we win another title, Manchester United Man City & Chelsea 3 good enough reasons for you? The football league & championship would be a struggle for Rangers & Celtic especially Rangers!
How about we raise the standard of our young players (train them in the ways of skillfull football) and then take on the world like we did inthe sixties and seventies?
Moving to England will do nothing unless we raise basic standards.
22 Feb 2013 10:21:41
If Rangers were to enter the English setup at the lowest level, it would undoubtedly take years to climb to the ladder. If we reached the Premier League, major investment would be required to sustain our status and compete with the giants. This is entirely feasible. The difficulty occurs for Rangers fans travelling to away matches. This would prove costly to sustain, hitting the low wage earning fanatic hard. On the other hand, as Rangers grow in stature, we would acquire a new generation of English-based fans. An interesting debate where there are both positives and negatives.
The bigger the league, the bigger/better the player would be attracted. As far as post about Man Utd, City & Chelsea. Both OF teams would buy top class players similar to theirs. They would no doubt get the investment as they have more appeal than Man city or any other team outside the top 4. Why would anyone invest in a team like Stoke or Aston Villa? etc.
Crap support and don't offer any return coisty09 {Ed001's Note - the same Stoke that are amongst the most profitable clubs in world football? With a very decent support? You really are completely ignorant of any real facts.}
As one of the large number of Rangers supporters who are not based in Scotland, the idea of Rangers playing in the English leagues is great. I don't doubt we would not win trophies for a few years but we would be challenging the likes of the top 7 clubs in the EPL sooner rather than later.
As for not having many travelling fans, wake up please - how many supporters clubs are there in England, how many supporters, how many potential supporters - The team would have more fans at away games than they do now - why, the grounds are larger and the fan base crying out to see the team.
My last thought, we would be able to attract more players but we can also have the pick of the youngsters that are in the UK, which would not only improve Rangers but also Scotland in the future.
So for all the Rangers supporters, wherever you are, keep the faith, stop knocking Ally and, for that matter, Charlie and just enjoy watching Rangers FC.
RTID London
"As one of the large number of Rangers supporters who are not based in Scotland. ".
You almost had me convinced until your last sentence.
Al
Please stop dreaming bears u are making us look so so stupid use are they guys who play right into Charls Greens hands the OF is a pipe dream we are Scottish we are not moving down there they have there system & it will stay that way it's upto everyone in Scotland to improve! I've said for the past 5 years any of the Old Firm would struggle in the Championship never mind premiership and all the teams who are they're are only getting better the OF would get serious investment in England how do u know that? They will sign the same quality of player as Man U & Man City give me a f@cking break our last signing was Kevin Kyle there's Robin Van Persie. We will never have another £12miillion player EVER we are Rangers we are now a selling Club fighting there way back to the top of Scottish Football the only thing we can hope for is some of our best lads will stay at the club. We have bigger worries in the coming years than getting a move to England I want to know what CGs intentions are & I'd rather he wasn't there to be honest I'm just happy we have a club to support & it Better be always where we belong Ibrox Stadium the talk of Scotland the mighty Rangers!
The SFA & SPL have punished our club severely and provided little support instead of punishing the individuals who caused the problem in the first place. Admittedly there was pressure on them to do this applied by other fractions (Mainly the green side followers and others jealous of our success).
Once again its everyone else's fault. let's get one thing straight, we couldn't give a monkeys what happened to you BUT to say that it was driven by "the green side" is another deluded, ill thought comment from someone who is very very bitter. Of course the green side arranged for all of these factors to happen and fall into place all at the same time to ensure that not one single team voted for you. Now if we have that much power then we would have made sure you never got into the league at all and were left to rot BUT instead the rules were IGONORED to allow you into the SFL but you can't see that, it's still everyone else's fault. The SFA and SPL cannot punish the individuals responsible, the club is granted membership to the league and in doing so they have to abide by the rules, not decide which ones they like and don't like, not decide to threaten people who make decisions, not march on the governing body when they don't like the decision, not boycott matches because you believe that a team was involved in a conspiracy. Did the guys running the club break the law, if they did then they will be arrested for it, did they steal money from Rangers that caused this to happen don't think they did, mis-management, yes, but that's not illegal, ask Fergus McCann! Stop trying to blame everyone else and be glad you still exist as a club and then maybe once you finish bleating then people will stop gloating.
I agree. I couldn't afford to go to away maches in england i'm from inverness and its expensive enough. We area scottish club and that the way it should stay watp
In relation to Ed001
I used Stoke as an example. Anyone outwith the top 5/6 is what I mean. generalisation. Rangers & Celtic are bigger than these clubs. Leeds and Nottingham Forest have great supports outwith EPL but I believe the draw of the OF is greater to any investor.
I never heard of a Stoke City supporters club in Sydney or Melbourne when I lived there though. coisty09 {Ed001's Note - so what? There are not as many ex-pats living abroad from Stoke as there are from Scotland. Hardly a relevant point. Sorry but you all dream about this big money investment coming from playing in England, but that is all it is. You would not suddenly become the biggest clubs in the world, it would take years and years of sustained success, such as Liverpool and Manchester United have enjoyed, to catch up. People aren't just going to rush in and give you money, why would they? There are clubs like Wolves, Leeds etc, that have a large fan base, decent stadiums and just lack investment, already in the Championship. You really think Rangers would be allowed to join at that level? I don't think there is a chance in hell of that happening and nor should there be. You have to earn the right to play there, just like Huddersfield etc have done. You clearly have no understanding of the way investment in footie works, I guess you think Blackpool and Bournemouth got huge Eastern European investment because of the size of their fanbases?}
I do hope you are against moving to England, you have done enough shouting about how Scotland needs you so how could you even think about moving to England?
>"Why would we never win another title?"
Come on - you in div 4 in scotland, how would you win anything in EPL, FA Cup? Against Manu, Liverpool, each week.
True level in EPL is wigan/southampton. flirting with relegation each season.
No Europe - EVER!
not going to happen.
we are not going to go straight into the epl though are we?
and do you really think we'd still have the same team as now?
22 Feb 2013 17:41:44
I for one would be ecstatic if we never had another old firm game. Our games in division 3 are not toxic unlike the atmosphere at Celtic & the old firm matches.
Should we play in England? Possibly but we should be looking at any option that gets us away from Scotland?
Earnock Big Red
The thought of Rangers leaving the footballing backwater of Scotland fills me with absolute glee.
The thought of us never having to visit Celtic football club or have their support at Ibrox delights me.
It is time to move on and out of Scotland; ideally as quickly as possible.
The quicker we go down south the better think of the money the club could make in revenue
Yes, I honestly believe Rangers will play in the English league, eventually. The only problem is that the likes of Man_u, Chelsea will be playing in the European Super League along with Celtic.
Well done to the origional poster. Makes a lot of sense. Should we really have got to stay in the SPL because we are Rangers? There has been no other genuine reason for allowing us to stay there. We needed to be punished, it might not have been the fault of the fans that the financial collapse occured, however, we did not hear rumblings when we were signing players on regular basis or when much needed money (and reputation I may add) was being spent to pay fines for the sectarian singing. Do you really think this behaviour is appropraite? Personally (and I am awaiting all the typical responses to this) I think, we should focus on building a Rangers which is about dignity, loyalty (loyalty does not mean anti-celtic!) and respectability. It is only way we can get a reputation which will encourage investors, players etc whereever we play.
Kintyre bear.