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22 Feb 2019 11:28:45
I'm convinced that a major contributer to any form of hatred whatever form it takes is social media have a look the hatred between our fans and fans of others is staggering how can we and by "we" I mean Scottish football possibly eradicate sectarianism when there is such unfiltered unedited bile allowed on these platforms without any redress rangers and celtic are accused of paying lip service to it to me social media doesn't even go that far!
In the main celtic fans on here are OK there's a definite banter feel to it or possibly ED does a great job filtering it out
Sad world on social media.

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22 Feb 2019 11:45:13
The Queen; The Pope; The UDA; The IRA; The Union Jack and The Irish Tri-colour should not be used to identify both Rangers and Celtic - we are ALL Scottish. We are Scottish Football Clubs. We are Glasgow Football Clubs. For whatever reason we have adopted culture from Ireland and made it our own.

I am a Rangers fan and so was my dad but he married my mum who was Catholic - both have been dead many years but their memories live on - they crossed the divide in Glasgow when it was more than frowned upon from both sides but rose above it. My family are all mixed rangers and celtic supporters as it should be - I am proud to say that I have never sung the sash, and never will.

I will probably be vilified and harangued for my post but I am not the problem, the problem is with those who think I am wrong.

Rangers is a great club with a great history and does not need sectarianism or bigotry and those who say no to that should really stop and think.

22 Feb 2019 12:01:51
for me the problem is simple. schools. as long as kids are segregated the divide will exist.

22 Feb 2019 12:06:10
Right here it is. folk constantly sayin oh i don't sing this or that. Beating the tims at ibrox am sure every single person was singing the billy boys and such like. Celtic games and away games 95% of songs has a ref to then or the pope etc do you tell people of around you for singing it?

22 Feb 2019 12:15:07
True blue, you are entitled to your opinion and I would be the first to stand by your side, but why bring NI into your argument, have we tails over here, just like yourself my parents were of mixed faith. I don’t like being vilified because of where I live.

22 Feb 2019 12:29:04
Ulsterman - I brought Ireland into the argument. I love the Irish, be they catholic or Protestant does not matter to me, and I love going to Ireland. However, it cannot be ignored that those Irish that came over to Glasgow brought their 'troubles' with them and act out their hatred of each other at Ibrox and Parkhead.

In Scotland you are Scottish not Irish, or London English.

22 Feb 2019 12:43:00
I stopped singing these ridiculous songs when I was 14 (50 now) and even then it was because I was a bit of a sheep like most - I then grew up. I would then leave Ibrox go back home and next day play football with my mates half of which were catholic with no issue but definitely a rivalry.

I for one refuse to sing these bigoted songs even when the atmosphere is at its most fever pitched. The whole siutation is ridiculous, I suggest every one of us have a good look at our family trees and I think you will find that most of us are from both faiths In equal measure

The hypocrisy is staggering.

22 Feb 2019 12:58:06
MOLS - a breath of fresh air.

Bringing it out in the open and having a discussion is the best solution.

22 Feb 2019 12:58:29
True Blue
To say the NI people act out their culture in Scotland is incorrect, I’ve went to Glasgow regularly over the years and never once on our bus or plane have I heard anything detrimental to anyone, no fenian this or UDA or UVF talk, we go to watch Rangers full stop, football. I personally think you are out of order with your views, if you came to where I live you’d hear nothing only normal conversation, I have a lot of Scottish friends and I thank them for not feeling like you feel, but in saying all that, you are entitled to your views as i’ve already said.

22 Feb 2019 13:14:51
Ulsterman - The Sash is a song about Derry and about a battle near Iniskillen - it is not a Scottish song it is an Irish song, and across the clyde they sing the Soldier's Song.

and for many many years cllloections for the UDA and the IRA were the norm - Correct me if I am wrong.

I am very glad to hear that you and your friends are not sectarian or bigoted - the more the merrier.

and I also would shake your hand and stand by your side.

22 Feb 2019 13:36:45
Give the bloke with the megaphone a song book - tell him to stick to it, or he gets booted out. Will help a lot.

22 Feb 2019 13:40:58
True blue, out of respect for the Ed’s on this site I’ll bring this to a close, if I thought for one moment that a majority of Scottish Rangers supporters thought like you about my country and it’s culture, I wouldn’t be back to Ibrox. Ref. The sash, I never sing it, I class myself as a quite an intelligent guy who travels the world both for work and for holidays and as for your culture “ I love it “ the Scots and the NIrish people are cousins, whether you like that or not .

22 Feb 2019 14:14:39
Fair do's Ulsterman, but methinks you totally missed what I was referencing. I am not denigrating you or your culture. Irish songs should be sung in Ireland and not sung or celebrated in Scotland.


22 Feb 2019 14:28:47
Ballochblue2 You are correct in what you say BUT I went to an secondary school in Broxburn West Lothian to which was prominently Protestant But then the Catholic school would not except any other denomination, That’s where all the problems lie.

22 Feb 2019 14:50:32
Cunny in oz, the same happens in NI, Catholic schools mostly only take catholic pupils, but it is changing, my youngest son is a teacher in a catholic school and they are beginning to bring in Protestant teachers like himself as well as different faiths, it’s a good sign.

22 Feb 2019 16:01:04
Ulsterman - not in Scotland. My middle son has transferred from a non-denominational high school to Catholic High School with no problems and no issues - loves it and plays footie for the school.

22 Feb 2019 16:09:37
You would have to wonder why the devide starts
I grew up with kids on my street and we all played away fine till P1 where the McCabe and Doyle family sent the kids to a different School. At my School we supposed
Rangers Motherwell Hamilton some also Dundee Utd
1 kid supported Celtic
As we progressed to high school we would play against the local Catholic HS at football and I can remember these games being a very agessive games more than any other
Sectarian songs were around from P6 P7 onwards
Kids talked about seeing army guys being killed on TV every week and civilians by the IRA and hear you had a bunch of kids on the opposite side singing about CFC and the glorified acts of the IRA
I am sure they saw the opposite side with the loyalist paramilitaries doing the same
It’s easy to see how hatetrid flourished
It needs to change and stop it’s a disgrace.

22 Feb 2019 18:57:40
This is a very good and informed discussion. The issue is much bigger than football, any particular club and is deep rooted and an issue for society. Clarke’s anger may be real but unfortunately he is missing the point.

22 Feb 2019 19:17:26
Years ago I had a client over from Belfast for an old firm game at Ibrox he said he had not seen bigotry like that back in Belfast. His words the folks from NI are amateur in the bigotry stakes compared to Scotland
That was 20 years ago and it’s sad it’s not changed much.

22 Feb 2019 19:50:14
Cant understand singing anti-catholic songs when we have catholics in our team - that's just disrespectful to people who in some cases are our heroes. Surely for the good of our club and our team we can rise above this level of behaviour - i'm no snowflake by the way and iv never been offended by chants from other supporters - if folk want in their own free time to hate other religions then that's their business but don't bring it to Ibrox with you.

22 Feb 2019 20:50:10
True Blue. Not sure if you know your history (rubbish song) but Catholic and Protestant issue in Scotland go way way back. The attachment to both old firm clubs can't be blamed on the Irish. It's more prominent in Glasgow because Glasgow has always had a alliance to the crown que bonnie prince Charlie getting told to feck off.

I come from a dolly mixture family as my Irish friends once called it and the other one used to spit when he said my name (Billy) . Good lads I just laughed. In this day and age it has to stop but don't blame the Irish feck sake.

23 Feb 2019 00:55:31
I respect all the comments made and strongly felt and as a failed Catholic I still believe in the fact that we are all the same. It's refreshing to see this topic being debated and on this site, debated with no malice and a general understanding. I do have one concern and that is the notion that the problem stems from separate Catholic school, having gone to one and having all my kids at primary and Secondary, they were not taught to hate anyone and as grown men they have become great human beings. Catholic schools do not preach hate, parents and those organisations who thrive on divide and conquer are the peddlers of this bile.

23 Feb 2019 01:06:01
I have no idea what religion my dad is, he's never mentioned it. My mother is catholic and occasionally goes to chapel. My religion is my wife and 3 kids my daughter is a big Rangers fan, and from this year a season ticket holder, she is Catholic and goes every week.
I see nothing wrong with wearing the Jack or the Tricolour, it's just the same as wearing a Rangers or Celtic top.



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