20 Apr 2018 10:32:30
Problem I find is. The board has backed the manager in this miller wallace situation. Now it seems to me that they now can't go against murty and sack him. You don't suspend 2 players then weeks later sack the manager. They have pushed themselves into a corner. 'If' we lose on sunday they can't exactly sack him. To be fair there farce of handling things would not suprise me if they released miller and wallace for challenging murtys tactics then sacked murty for his poor tactics.
20 Apr 2018 11:24:41
both players in question have history of doing this so get rid
murty not being sacked seeing out till end of season as agreed then new boss appointed
20 Apr 2018 11:30:21
Ok first of all there will be no ‘sacking’ of Murty. His contract is only until the end of the season and that was always the case. He just won’t be offered another contract. And secondly this is not about Miller and Wallace against Murty. It’s about two employees apparently (and I say that because no one really knows what happened, remember folks don’t believe everything. or anything, you read in the papers) undermining their manager in front of the rest of the employees.
For those of us who have ever had a job, I think we all know what would happen if we started shouting at and slagging our direct managers performance right in front of all our colleagues, more than likely a one way ticket to unemployment, or at least a suspension or final written warning. Just because this is a football club where emotions and feelings and the emotions and feelings of fans come into play doesn’t change the fact that it’s a place of employment and that there are still codes of conduct and rules.
(And by the way as stated, I’m not saying that any of this definetly happened the way it’s being reported, I’m simply stating how things work)
20 Apr 2018 11:32:35
I believe 'history' of this involves shocking managers at our club. Although Tilladie you can inform me if he stood up to a manager other than those and if they didn't include a defeat to them.
I would swap you reply around. Get rid of murty and keep them till end of season.
20 Apr 2018 11:53:17
Okay fair enough Ger78. If we are putting it into a work place environment then we also have to take in the fact that murty has made huge failures and cost the company money. If that was as you say a work place he would have also be made unemployed or suspended. The rules are for all in the club.
20 Apr 2018 12:31:53
Yes, hence the reason he won’t be the manager next season. And remember up until about 4 weeks ago when we narrowly lost to Celtic at ibrox most people were fairly happy with how we were doing and the way we were playing (a number of rather over confident folk on this site were starting to talk about us actually wining the league this season) . Believe me if this was half way through the season and or even if there was a viable short term alternative until the end of the season then I’m sure Murty probably would be off. However (and this has to fall at the feet of the board) we took the ‘last resort’ option by putting the under 20’s coach in charge for the remainder of the season last October therefore we now really have no other option but to leave him in place for the last 5 games. I’m sure the question has been raised at boardroom level but it seems they don’t have a viable alternative that they feel won’t cause too much disruption over the what’s left of the season. (Again I’m not saying that I believe that’s the right decision or that the board are doing the right thing so please don’t think I’m sticking up for them, i'm purely looking at the situation subjectively rather than emotionally and considering all options available. Really this whole situation goes back to when they appointed the wrong man in Pedro which has ultimately led us to this)
20 Apr 2018 13:24:03
I have said before mark warburton had faults but he wasnt where they made the real mistake. He done what the previous manager couldn't and got us up he just couldn't do it at spl level. The fault was the board employing pedro then an under 20s coach. It all falls at there feet. This is rangers football club! these are the actions of a local semi-pro team, not us.
20 Apr 2018 14:33:05
I’m not going to disagree with you there. I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that none of us as fans really know the true situation that the club is in and never really have done since everything went tits up. We were blatantly lied to by the likes of Whyte and Green as they went about lining their own pockets, we were even hidden from the real truths of how bad things were getting by Murray. No one really knows how bad things were when the current board took over. It truely wouldn’t surprise me if we actually were close to a second administration. No fan really knows how much has had to be done behind the scenes in order to stabilise the club, improve the football administrative and youth set ups, repair ibrox and auchenhowie and all the other a million and one things that have to be done.
On the other hand in terms of the things that are visible to the fans, ie the actual performance of the team, there have obviously been a number of bad mistakes made and often it has appeared that at times the board have not done nearly enough to make the required improvements. However is that due to a lack of effort and knowledge or is it partly a symptom of a continued lack of financial resources.
To me one of the biggest mistakes they made and continue to do so looking at Johnston’s statements today, is telling the fans how good things are and creating unrealistic expectations. When we were promoted 2 years ago all the ‘going for 55’ nonsense just raised expectations and made the fans believe we were ready to challenge when clearly we were miles off. It was the same again this season. A little more realism in their statements would help but then again telling the fans to be patient and that we probably won’t win the league this year isn’t going to help sell tickets which in turn will hurt the club further as there will be even less in terms of finances, so catch 22.
In regards to Johnston saying we are ahead of the curve that was a silly thing to say, especially this week, however perhaps from a business point of view, behind the scenes they are ahead of where they expected to be (for example apparently they are going to go ahead with a new share issue in the next few weeks where it had been expected to be a few months away) . Although to the fans, the product that we are seeing definetly doesn’t appear to be ‘ahead of the curve’. It’s systematic of the board not understanding the feelings of the fans and seeing things from a business rather than an emotional point of view.
Personally I would like to see them being more realistic and upfront about what our current situation actually is, unfortunately pragmatism doesn’t sell tickets!
20 Apr 2018 20:35:50
Ger78 there is no chance of a share issue any time soon. No MOMAD in place and until King offers the 20p per share to all shareholders no shares are being issued.
20 Apr 2018 21:24:41
King is making the share offer next week Johnnymac55