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16 Apr 2017 19:19:51
I get the impression young Bates will get the same stick that was directed at players such as Alan Hutton and Charlie Adam from a section of our fans.

He's been part of a defence which hasn't conceded a goal and we've came up against two in form sides in Aberdeen and Thistle, Aberdeen in particular who thrashed Dundee recently. Rather than trying to find fault in the young lad can we not just look at the positives?! He's defended really well at times and Wilson and him look like a real partnership and a partnership which can last beyond this season, something Hill can't offer. Wilson has been excellent recently and I've no doubt it's down to having Bates in there rather than Kiernan who was actually costing us goals with his passing out of defence and switching off at times, something Bates hasn't done since he's came in.

I thought we were terrific defensively against Aberdeen who put us under some real pressure from the start of the second half and we did something we've not been able to do with any other combination at centre half all season and that's keeps the ball out the net. Praise the boy, be optimistic that he can be a long term fix and a fixture in the team for years to come, because to this point he's done nothing to suggest he can't be that player.

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16 Apr 2017 19:54:01
J1985

I don't think he will get the same stick. Yeah he has done well since he came in but happen to think due to Hill's experience he should play against them in front of bates. Hill was excellent at Celtic park the last time scored the equaliser and made a superb last ditch tackle to deny Griffiths

16 Apr 2017 21:37:15
Rangers fans loved hutton and all said adam was a good player if we didn't play him as a left mid. Not really seen much criticism of bates apart from that for such a big game we should maybe go for someone more experienced

16 Apr 2017 21:46:11
Yes Huey that's my opinion just feel hills experience for this one could be crucial no harm towards big bates done well in his 3 matches although am sorting of contradicting myself a bit because I feel beerman should stay in even if Wallace fit

16 Apr 2017 23:27:21
I think Beerman should stay in the team BUT imo we have suffered all season because we have not had any quality on the left wing! Therefore I would move Beerman on to the Wing and give Lee the LB position. Lee is a decent player not Captain material tho. At the end of the day I would like to see a team run out at Ibrox with Beerman on the left and Atayaki on the right wing. Sign these lads up long term NOW or we will lose them for peanuts in Jan or end of nxt season.

16 Apr 2017 23:30:24
I find myself agreeing with both j1985 and bengy25! You both make very good and valid points regarding bates, wilson and hill! No argument here from me guys on your points of view!

16 Apr 2017 23:50:46
I liked hutton too was gutted when he went to spurs.

16 Apr 2017 23:52:48
He's been a stand out and it's shown how bad hill and kiernan are when a young boy is stepping up and showing them how to command a defence. He isn't great on the ball who cares neither was John Brown.

16 Apr 2017 23:53:22
@andy1872 - why play people out of position? Did we not slate MW for that very reason on here at times?

17 Apr 2017 00:53:26
Have to disagree a bit Huey (not to cause an argument for the sake of it mate) but I vividly remember sitting in the Govan front with my auld man and we'd see the same players get stick every second week and over the years there was a pattern. Hutton, Adam, Maurice Ross, Bob Malcolm, Chris Burke, Steven Thompson, Scott Wilson etc. Young Scottish player get it much tighter than a foreign prospect, 100%. Not all fans I might add so please don't take this as me trying to come across all high n mighty, I've gave enough players plenty of stick but just wish we'd be more patient as a whole with the young lads coming through.

As for the weekend, if it ain't broke n all that. The young lads haven't let us down so I see no reason why either wouldn't keep their place in the team. Next season will be here before we know it and do much rather see the two boys maintain momentum and see the season out than replace Bates with Hill who'll likely not be here next year.

17 Apr 2017 12:15:39
Well the only way to get experience in those games is by playing him. so when is the right time to play him? . If Ped throws him in on Sun it will give him bags of confidence and as for Hill, he gives to many needless fouls away for my liking and don't get me started on Kiernan

17 Apr 2017 12:39:06
Agree play the young lads against Celtic. Only decision for me is whether bring in Hodson or Hill (if fit) as extra defensive cover.

17 Apr 2017 17:06:59
Union jack i think u find beerman is a winger that canalso play full back

18 Apr 2017 00:52:11
Not defending kiernan but i wonder if wallace being out has been major contributor to the clean sheets. Take away his attacking threat and he a worse full back than stuart munro

18 Apr 2017 10:15:47
Beerman is not a winger. He is a right back who fills in at left back.

18 Apr 2017 22:43:35
havent u ever heard the saying don't fix something that isn't broke? we have to stick with what's been working the past couple of games and that's bates and wilson.

do i think they should be our future cb's well naw no really i'd expect better to come in at the cb positions and those two to be used as cover as wilson's few good games doesn't undo all the calamity of this season or end of last so i'd say get better than wilson in.

he is doing better now but i couldn't trust him to do it for a season what about you guys?







 

 

 
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