07 Feb 2017 13:12:13
Gonna only say this once to all rangers fans why on rhe face this earth is every 1 wantin the de boers? Great playera but manager? Leta get real here he did okay woth ajax that's it but nothin with milan didn't last ling but hell yeah he wl do fine for gers nah but thanks then no thanks had enough off this dutch crap in the past Fact. Now michael o'neil now that's the man we should look at if getting northern ireland to the euros isn't doing it on the highest stage and platform then you rangers fans tell me what is cause its certainly no frank de boer i mean isn't exactly hard to win dutch league with ajax there league isn't any better than us. Ed do you agree michael o'neil for what he's achieved with his country alone should be at least on the candidate list.
07 Feb 2017 13:16:31
If it was me he would be up there, De Boer has not impressed me at all, though, to be fair, Inter was an impossible job. So Michael O'Neill looks an excellent candidate.
07 Feb 2017 13:45:47
Only problem with getting northern Ireland manager would be compo. nearly a million pound.
07 Feb 2017 14:06:35
Personally I would just like a manager that would instil some fighting spirit in this team and knows how to motivate players.
07 Feb 2017 13:39:20
@edd001 - not for me . His managerial win rate is 40%. With NI it's only 28% so for me he's not the man to take us forward.
{Ed001's Note - win rate is not everything. He is manager of NI, it takes a miracle for them to do anything, but he has managed it.}
07 Feb 2017 14:29:48
Agree with the sentiments above regarding de Boer and also Michael O'Neill however let's not compare our league with the Dutch!
07 Feb 2017 14:41:30
Tomusa totally agree if we don't dog in and show some fight and quick we will struggle for 3rd never mind 2nd hard times
07 Feb 2017 14:51:43
@edd001 - I understand your point about win rates but you can have 6 decent qualifying results to get to a tournament. To be considered a decent shout he would have to get them qualifying again. If he did that he would then probably be able to get a bottom EPL / top Championship job. At this point in time they are more attractive jobs than Rangers.
{Ed001's Note - so why wait until then? He has to come under consideration, it would be crazy to rule him out over win rates.}
07 Feb 2017 15:07:31
More chance of getting Michael Flatley
07 Feb 2017 15:15:28
What a lot of cr@p about De Boer. He did OK with Ajax? He won 4 successive titles something that no other manager in Holland as ever done! that's also during a time when PSV were dominant in the Eredivisie!
Michael O'Neil ahead of this man. SERIOUSLY! GET A GRIP!
We will get neither, I want nothing to do with O'Neil.
{Ed001's Note - he won four successive titles in a league that was as competitive as the current Scottish one. As soon as there was serious competition he finished second. PSV were not in any way dominant at the time, that is just false.}
07 Feb 2017 16:01:03
Regardless of PSV, no other manager has done this before and that's going back to the days when the Dutch league was very much like the Scottish League, back then someone should have achieved this!
Their league is far more competitive that ours that's false!
Since 1999/ 2000 to 2008 PSV won 7 titles. Then Alkmaar then Twente took 1 each followed by De Boer 4 on the trott. I think its fair to say PSV were the dominant force in Dutch football previous to De Boers titles.
{Ed001's Note - that is irrelevant, all of it. When De Boer took over Ajax, he was handed money to spend and the backing of the board. No one else in the league had that. They backed him heavily because of the fact that they were behind PSV. PSV were unable to compete financially and lost out on the field as they needed to sell players. If you do not understand that simple fact, then please give it a rest. Alkmaar and Twente were able to win with little money, because the league was crap. As soon as Ajax spent some, they waltzed away with it.}
07 Feb 2017 16:02:34
Plus Inter are in a mess at the time he took over. No surprise it ended the way it did.
{Ed001's Note - can you not read where I said it was an impossible job?}
07 Feb 2017 16:46:43
Although I think Michael O'Neil would be a decent appointment. I think de Boer would be a cracking appointment. He's young and creative and did great with Ajax who he brought through a lot of youngsters. Isn't that what we want from a manager. Bring through the youngsters that we can sell on for a big profit.
Another good appointment I think would be Tommy Wright just for the fact his team are usually hard to beat.
07 Feb 2017 16:52:43
I sent the last message before your reply. To be honest my friend you never seem to like it when your subscribers challenge your thoughts.
In 2008 De Boer signed 1 player: Evander Sno
2009 He signed 1 player: Ooijer
I think you will find that that is not millions being thrown at him to spend! He develops youth.
{Ed001's Note - what subscribers? More crap just like the signing thing. In summer 2008 he signed Sulejmani for £14m, in fact he signed a total of 11 players, if you don't count the youth team players, who included Daley Blind being promoted that summer. In summer 2009 he signed a further 10 as well as the promoted youth players. No Ooijer though, so you might want to check your bull before posting it.}
07 Feb 2017 18:06:41
I agree with Ed! (about everything! )
07 Feb 2017 19:10:23
Subscribers was used for wanting of a better word, do forgive me!
You need to chill Ed001, a tad aggressive. My facts are just fine, you maybe need to see how many players were sold and for how much, Malik alone was 30m!
Anyway, you don't fancy him along with many others I for one would and he's head and shoulders above people like O'Neil Davies, Wright and all the other bottom of the barrel managers people suggest.
{Ed001's Note - I am not being aggressive, short maybe, but not aggressive. You shouldn't judge over a comp screen as you can never tell a tone by mere words alone. I was typing on a phone editing quickly, so I didn't pretty it up to sound nice I just typed it quick. Your 'facts' are wrong. I even asked a member of his coaching team to verify what I said about the number of players and he backed up that they did invest heavily.
Is he really head and shoulders above? What has he proved? The only job that he has done that is similar to Rangers was Inter, and he failed miserably there. Again we both agree that he was on a hiding to nothing there, but he also would be at Rangers. The fans want instant success and that just is not going to happen.}
07 Feb 2017 19:15:56
Just to correct a point of order, it was marco van basten as ajax manager who signed suljemani for 14 million, not frank de boer.
{Ed001's Note - it was summer 2008, which was the date he referred to, but correction noted as I never checked who was in charge then, I just assumed he knew the dates.}
07 Feb 2017 19:48:40
I didn't think it was deBoer who signed him. He did spend money but not multi multi millions and as I said he sold players for huge profits.
C'mon Ajax surely are more of a comparison to Rangers than Inter? I honestly think the Dutch league is miles ahead of SPL. Managers who leave that league often prove to be capable wherever they go also. I feel it's time to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for managers and players alike. Yes money talks, and by all accounts we have very little. If De Boer has direct contact with Dave King as some would suggest then I think that's the direction that we should do everything possible to go in.
Always a pleasure Ed001. Tone is often confused.
{Ed001's Note - I compared Inter to Rangers because Juve have a budget well ahead of Inter's. In Holland Ajax have by a considerable margin the biggest budget unlike Rangers. Not so much about the league they play in but their financial state within it.
Apologies for it coming across aggressive. I don't always have time to check things over so they read nicely and when I do the crappy wifi here loses the message and I have to start again. This is the third time I have tried to reply to this due to the wifi crashing each time I press submit. Sometimes the replies get shorter because I get fed up retyping stuff.}
07 Feb 2017 20:18:48
Lol, I feel your pain my son.
07 Feb 2017 20:19:16
By the way no need for apologies.
08 Feb 2017 08:31:42
Gdog, to be fair De Boer spent £46.5mil on players during his time at Ajax. Yes they managed to rack in a lot more than that through selling players, however I doubt De boer has any say over youth players at ajax except from who he decides to use in his first team squad. Anyway, £46.5mil in the 5/ 6 seasons he was there, if he needed that much (and possibly the best academy currently in the world) to win the league then I doubt he is the man for the Rangers job.
08 Feb 2017 12:53:42
De Boer would be a top appointment who would be able to attract top players.
At celtic right now the attraction of playing under Rogers draws players there.
I don't think we would see the same kind of attraction to playing under Michael ONeil
08 Feb 2017 15:15:48
We can pontificate all we want on who might be the next manager but right now we have what we have and a vast majority of us were delighted when we secured his services. The problem as I see it is that we have a guy who is high on theory and not so good on practice. He wants to play the beautiful game the way that Barcelona play when he has accumulated a bunch of players that are 1,000,000 miles away from the quality of most Spanish top league sides.
He is playing in a league where 'mammy pamby' footballers are destroyed by the opposition and where slow build up play generally gets you no where in what is a fast and hard league. He has underestimated the SPL and his assistant quite frankly is a waste of space since he clearly hasn't provided any insight into what was needed, never mind any coaching of our hapless defence!
At the end of the day the players we have, with Souness, Smith or Wallace style aggression and motivation, would be better than the pack and would put up a better show against Celtic.
He fails to motivate, he fails to develop, he is a 'Southern Softie' that lacks "Govan Aggression", he is more suited to the Trading Floor than the rigours of winning a league where coming second to the great unwashed is simply not acceptable!
08 Feb 2017 13:26:42
I think frank de boer looks the most qualified for the job out of all the names. He did better than okay at ajax! It's not as if it's the spl with 1 descent team.
08 Feb 2017 13:37:32
I'm a northern ireland fan but I really think we need better than michael O'Neil. international football is different than club football you only have to look at lawri sanchez when he was with us he had some brilliant results but was a nightmare at Fulham. Michael O'Neil us totally unproven at club level. He's only had a short spell at shamrock rovers.