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24 Nov 2016 13:00:12
Fellow bears i read on the site quite a lot about everyone's best starting eleven. Who should play and who should not. One of the biggest topics for opinion is Tavernier. "Never a defender", "can't play in a midfield 3" etc etc. For me the biggest problem is not the starting eleven its the formation. We have two of the best attacking fullbacks in the country who when they bomb forward just about always leave us exposed at the back. Why not account for this; play them more advanced and account for this with an extra defender (3-5-2). To me it makes perfect sense.

3 at the back gives the centre backs a wee bit more help (although granted we don't have an abundance of great CB's), and 5 in the middle would enable us to dominate in the middle of the park and the chance to see 2 up front. To see if Garner and Waggy could form a partnership or Doodoo and MOH - there could be a few options there.

What do you think?

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24 Nov 2016 13:17:24
Three at the back is very difficult to perfect. i'd rather not change the formation that much.

24 Nov 2016 13:35:57
ive been banging on about 4-4-2.
I see your point though and would give that a go aswell.

I agree that the formation is our problem as everyone knows how we play and put extra in the middle which always makes it harder for us to play out from the back.

24 Nov 2016 13:50:29
TBH the defence has significantly improved this season thanks to one individual and that's Clint Hill.

Apart from Hill the back five/ six, including Halliday, is exactly the same as last season, and even in the second division, was seen as needing significant improvement.

Hill is the signing of the summer without a doubt.

People saying this is a negative, since it suggests the other signings haven't worked out, but the defence needed improving and its been improved and then some, with Tavernier playing better defensively, Hodson adding great competition for the full backs and a sub GK who fans wouldn't mind seeing in the starting eleven week in week out.

That's what the fans wanted, that's what they've got.

As for formation, it won't change. Need the players we've signed to get used to it and TBF most have. Garner might need time but he will get goals in this formation, two up front or two on the wing won't make a difference.

24 Nov 2016 13:52:30
Changing formation isn't going to solve any problems. Teams will still set up the same way against us and we will get the same result. The problem we have is the amount of movement we have off the ball. More movement means more spaces, more spaces means more chances and more chances means more goals.

24 Nov 2016 14:05:00
tav can defend and is a descent right back, our defence isn't as bad as people on here think.

24 Nov 2016 16:42:53
if changing the formation doesn't change anything the why do great teams and managers all over the word do it even average teams change their formation depending how they want their team set up.
if it makes no difference everyone would play off a 4-4-2.

you people obviously just watch football if u think it doesn't make a difference its just ridiculous to think that doesn't make a difference.

24 Nov 2016 16:56:43
Not every team has to play against 10 men behind the ball every game. I know we're not Barcelona but they play 433 week in week out and they are successful because of their off the ball movement. When do you ever see Suarez, Messi and Neymar taking up the same position at every attack. They play everywhere in the attacking positions which is why they are able to create more chances.

24 Nov 2016 17:01:10
i'm not saying changing formation doesn't change anything in football in general. I mean in our case, due to the way teams play against us.

24 Nov 2016 15:24:05
3 cbs is a non starter we just don't have the quality to justify it why sacrifice a windass/ holt etc to add in senderos or wilson alongside rob and hill! We need to get the midfield fixed and the quicker rossier is back the better i'd have hoped crooks would have came in but looks as if he hasn't came on as warbs would have liked! As fraserc23 says more movement and sharper passing is required! Players need to man up at times also as we are bullied in certain areas and don't seem to boss games the way we should.

24 Nov 2016 17:42:27
Tavernier is one of our better players. It is the midfield and attack where we need better quality. Holt is a Championship player, Halliday is limited but in many respects makes up for his lack of top quality with his commitment, (if only other players in the team showed his commitment we might have more points right now) . We need to replace Miller and we need quality in midfield, (just a shame that Krancjar and Rossiter are injured) .

I also believe that we need a stronger leader. Wallace is a good player but he is not a leader.

24 Nov 2016 23:40:01
hello bears, i see a lot of valid points about formation and personnel in the team but i think the problems are a lot more basic than that, when you watch us play majority of other teams chances come from us making basic mistakes, slack passes etc and not taking the many chances we create always puts us under more pressure, thus the solution to us getting a good winning run is better ball retention and putting the ball in the net easier said i no but were not far away.

25 Nov 2016 11:13:20
We have a very difficult period of games from now until the end of the year let's see how we are on 1st Jan before we lavish praise on Hill and the defence.







 

 

 
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