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26 Sep 2016 18:11:41
When on earth are we going to have everyone fit and available. No Rossiter, Windass or Crooks yesterday and for the life of me I don't understand why young Ryan Hardie was loaned out when it is clear that our current strikers struggle to score against Premiership opposition.

There are signs that we are a good team but something isn't quite right. With all available my starting XI against Partick would be (4-4-2): Foderingham; Tavernier, Crooks, Senderos, Wallace; Rossiter, Holt, Halliday, Kranjcar; Miller, Windass. Maybe Barton, if he returns, will have a new lease of life and I'd recall Hardie in January. We're not getting any luck right now and if our so-called strikers could actually score we'd be a few points better off.

I didn't expect us to win the SPL title in our first season back but I did hope we'd beat the like of Ross County and Hamilton at home!

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26 Sep 2016 19:11:01
DOIGER, I respect your opinion and every bear is entitled to have their own opinion but barrie mckay would always be in my starting 11,imo he was by far our best and most creative player against the sheep, playing to his best he can tear full backs apart, he can pass tremendously well and has an immense first touch, I do admit he started the season out of touch but the signs were evident at pittodrie that he's coming back to his best, I would love to give mckay a free roving role in a more central area instead of continually playing him out wide left, he could be our messi if we give him this role imo, he would destroy teams playing as an out and out no.10 in a more central role and has everything in his locker to reach the very top in the modern game, warbs take him off the leash and let him go at players without turning back when he has the beating of his opponent practically all the time! He's got one of the biggest assets in a footballer, PACE!

26 Sep 2016 19:32:08
no danny Wilson? why are u bashing our strikers then picking Miller? lol! clueless.

26 Sep 2016 19:44:05
Barrie McKay has been shite this year if he never scored against Celtic people wouldn't be thinking he's all that.

26 Sep 2016 19:25:29
Hi Warbs15.

McKay has no end product. like messi lol. aye nae bother

pace is not the biggest asset in football. intelligence is, and it is intelligence that leads to a successful final product, were to run, when to run, when to shoot, when to pass, when to drag defenders away.

sinclair has pace. dembele has pace its their movement and decisiosn that allowed them score 18 goals between them 2.

waghorn = strength and finishing against only poor opponents (3 gaols against SPL Teams in 15 months)

Garner = aggression, decent header. that's about it.

Mckay and O'Halloran = pace and dribbling and that's it (oh yeah Mckay scored a beauty back in sept didn't he)

Miller = fin

Tav = pace dribbling finishing. but your RB shouldn't be your most reliable att threat.

Lee Wallace = some pace some dribbling, lots of grass. that's it. he ain't no leader.

26 Sep 2016 20:37:07
I thought McKay and Waghorn were our worst players on the park yesterday McKay does nothing but give the ball away and he cannot tackle for toffee in my opinion he has got loads of potential but has a long way to go before he is a brilliant player like some people on here make him out to be.

26 Sep 2016 20:40:57
Why do so many people want crooks at CB? that's not his position, we r bad enough in that area of the park without playing players there when it isn't their natural position, crooks himself has said he is not a centre back!

26 Sep 2016 20:52:10
Kaney I happen to agree about Waghorn but you've lost any argument when you say 3 goals against SPL teams in 15 months. They guy wasn't playing in the SPL last season. That's a horrific stat to attempt bring out.

26 Sep 2016 21:21:10
Kaney, if you're telling me that barrie mckay is not talented then I have to totally disagree with you, by the way I know he's still got a bit to go before becoming the finished article but trust me he will as like I posted earlier he has all the tools there to become a top player, he does create and make chances has a tremendous first touch and his passing ability is superb and has blistering pace, if you're telling me mckay doesn't posses any of these attributes then I'm telling you you don't know what you're talking about and your biased opinion is blinding you! I listened to both jamie redknapp and gary neville several months ago raving about mckay and how good he'll eventually become and like me they also think he'll also become a top player who can reach the very top in football.

26 Sep 2016 22:09:47
obviously great variance of opinion on Mckay, my thoughts are yes he has got talent but for sure i feel he shirks the 50/ 50's and for me sorry but does not merit inclusion before others.

27 Sep 2016 00:33:37
Waghorn has not and never will score in the spl as it doesn't exist.

27 Sep 2016 06:17:56
Mckay is a confidence player like most youngsters he needs to be given encouragementto go and get at full backs, told to switch flanks and pop up in different areas but most importantly be told to enjoy his football and not have 'fans' on his back if something doesn't come off! He is tricky and has bags of pace so warbs should be using this asset, i'm not one who wants a formation change but rather more freedom within the current system for our front men to mix it up a little, that's where we would see the difference in making more chances.

27 Sep 2016 08:17:24
Is it just me that actually like Hill and Wilson together, I think they have looked good in the last 3 games.

27 Sep 2016 08:24:15
it's not the strikers fault the team are creating nothing.

27 Sep 2016 09:15:18
No cee I said front men, as in the 3 fodwards and usually atleast 2 of our 3 midfielders are attack minded that gives us what I term as 5 front men who ain't doing there jobs properly! The wide guys aren't wide enough, they aren't taking people on and going to the bye line, the number 9 is everywhere except in the 9 position and the midfielders aren't in a big enough hurry to move ghe ball and themselves into the box to support him when he is there! The key to our system is pace and movement but we don't seem to execute it at all at present we are so flat and so slow it is hard to watch at times!

27 Sep 2016 11:27:15
in 15 months. waghorn has played against spl teams on approx 13 times? and has roughly a 3/ 4 goal return.

13 games is approx 1/ 3 of a season and he returns 3 goals. averaging roughly a goal every 3/ 4 games against premier league teams. might i add that in these 14 games only 3 were against teams you would call top 5 teams. so even against lower level teams he struggles

is this ratio that a main striker in a team challenging for 2nd should have?

27 Sep 2016 11:39:44
was that not the same about rhys mccabe, john fleck, lewis mcleod. same story different player. mckay looks a player when no one is near him, he's fast no doubt. but you say his passing is top drawer. how many quality crosses do you see him put into the box.

forrest can't cross the ball to save himself. but forrest is now making the right decisions and is scoring reguarly.

mckay may become decent but he is 22 this year. and he is struggling against hamilton, ross county, killie etc.

K tierney is 19 and streets ahead of mckay in terms of development. yes both play different positions only one of them is capable of getting up and downs the left hand side effectivly and only one of them is consistantly creating chances and goals and that is tierney. now there is a player who will be playing in the EPL in a few seasons.

27 Sep 2016 11:49:22
Mckay is 21 (Reaching the top) give me a break. he'll be in his mids 20s at this rate before he reaches the top of the SPL

Dembele 19, tierney 19, Roberts 19. these are players in scotland who should excell by the time there 21 and all 3 will be playing regualer in the EPL by the time there 22.

Mckay is 22 soon (2 months) . he should be knocking on the door now for europes top leagues if he is going to the top WARBS15, do you agree?

sterling, bellerin, kelechi (City CF) rashford, deli alli. these are guys who are younger than McKay that will reach the very top of the football world.

McKay sorry just can't see it. poor mans mcgeady lol.

27 Sep 2016 12:00:24
13 assists in 48 games for McKay last season against lower tier teams bar the games against us and St Johnstone and possibly hibs.

not a record of a 21yo top prospect. is it?

27 Sep 2016 15:19:01
McKay's biggest problem is maturity. Have you ever met him? He acts and talks like a wean. He needs get a grip. He isn't a young boy anymore. He's a man and needs to start acting like it, compare him to other 21/ 22 year old talents and he's miles behind. People need to stop acting like he's a 17 year old. He needs to grow a pair and hit the gym. He'd be in my bench until he improved.

27 Sep 2016 14:17:05
cee the team are not creating nothing?

what games have u been watching I've seen nothing but miss after miss after miss from our strikers .

garner's chance in the first half against the sheep was as simple a finish you can get and he misstimed/ misshit it all together and waggy had two clear chances in the second half and couldn't do much with them. that's not to mention how manytimes I wa screaming shoot at players on the 18 yard line but they decide to take an extra touch.

the chance are there midield is not one of our problem areas its c/ b's and strikers not doing their jobs .

and clint hill wouldn't wear a rangers top if I was in charge way way way too old and no pace at all.

think Wilson is coming on though.

27 Sep 2016 18:00:07
We McKay our best player last year and yous are all slating him fair enough he not been at his best but he still wants the ball he is the only player we got who actually runs with the ball ant tries to beat someone plus he can strike a ball we need to stay behind the boy no get on his back.

27 Sep 2016 18:43:48
McKay tries to beat someone? Rarely

So what about Forrester, Windass, Holt, Tav even Halliday on occasion?

When McKay faces an opponent he cuts inside or goes backwards. Couple of times a game he'll skin them. Like that beautiful piece of skill vs sheep. More of that please. I'm not slating him. But there's huge room for improvement. His recent performances are what if base my starting XI selection on hence the bench chat.

27 Sep 2016 19:06:19
Keane, might have had some sympathy for your comments if you had compared McKay to a quality winger like Cooper but you lost credibility when you talked about McGeady. He was an ok player in Scotland but totally flopped in England. Can't disagree with your comments about Dembele, he looks a quality player, but I reckon that Rangers have a quality youngster in Rossiter and Dodoo has real potential as does the young lad from Raith Rovers. The question for me is whether any of them will be given the chance to play by Warburton or whether he will go with hopeless cases like Hill.







 

 

 
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