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27 Aug 2016 12:01:05
For the first time since they came in I can honestly say I'm really disappointed with the management team. Every bit of good work done over the summer is being cancelled out due to the fact we still haven't sorted out our defence. I honestly don't think we needed 10 players. 5 good ones would have been fine (Rossiter, Garner, Dodoo, Hodson and a new CB) and use the youth for squad numbers like every other team has to.
He's took a good team and made it look worse imo.
Hill should start coaching now, he's not fit for purpose. Kiernan is the worst CB since the swede that Le Guen bought. We are a shambles at the back it's embarrassing. Teams know we're good for at least one mistake a game and then just sit back and make it impossible to penetrate after they get their goal.
I fear Senderos is going to be injured more than play and if we're left with Kiernan or Hill bedside Wilson we will not finish above Hearts or Aberdeen never mind Septic.
The one positive note from this season is Taverniers form. He gets a lot of stick on here but has been our best player since he came in imo.
Move Wallace to CB bedside Wilson, Hidson in at LB. or actually go out and buy a CB oR our season will be over before it starts.

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27 Aug 2016 12:27:15
Defence? You mean midfield right?

27 Aug 2016 12:43:59
Ross the midfield have been terrible as well but we have an abundance of talent there, too many if truth be told. Rossiter, Barton, Halliday, Holt, Windass, Kranjcar, Forrester, Crooks. This is not the problem.
For CB's we have Wilson (who will go on to be a good player this year IF (and it's a big IF) we find him a decent partner. The other 2, Hill and Kiernan are terrible. Hill is correctly named as he's over one and Kiernan is simply not Rangers class. A guy sitting behind me against Motherwell hit the nail on the head, I said God knows how this guy played at English Champ level and he said "aye for about 20 teams on loan, nobody kept him for more than a season". And it's true, he should have been punted in the summer. If you can't do it in the Scottish Championship or against Killie, Well, Dundee and Hamilton then what chance do you have against Celtic, Aberdeen and Hearts?
A fit Senderos could be the answer, but why are we relying on a guy who's not played for years after signing 10 players we mostly didn't need. And the blame for this is at the managers door, he makes the final divisions. FMcP does what he does and finds guys like Rossiter and Barton but the manager decides who to sign. Why sign Barton, Rossiter and Crooks for the same position when we're crying out for 2 if not 3 decent CB's? It's because he thinks Kiernan is a player and that's what worries me the most.

27 Aug 2016 13:09:26
Who said there should be a statue of fmp outside ibrox again?

27 Aug 2016 13:33:09
You misread my post for a change Mr Nice (sarcasm incase you miss interpret that as well) . I said FMcP does what he does by identifying these players, it's up to the manager which permutations of these players he signs, and imo he's went wild in midfielders and attackers without fixing the only real problem we had last year which was defence.
Mcparland has been excellent for us.

27 Aug 2016 13:50:25
Think its a bit early to be slating management and players. I fear a section of rangers support only sing when their winning. We should leave that to Celtic fans. and support mW and the team.

27 Aug 2016 13:57:48
Would hardly say he went wild with attackers. We have brought 2 in and lost 1 so it's hardly going wild.

27 Aug 2016 14:00:18
Mr not so nice with the usual negativity, only team i know who brings in 11 players and is expected to click immediately. Especially after the disaster of a preseason we were forced to endure which obviously didn't challenge us correctly. Once we get the balance in the midfield we will be fine. We aren't any worse at defending than celtic.

27 Aug 2016 14:06:33
11 players? There was 7 or 8 from last season u do realise that don't you.

27 Aug 2016 14:17:42
It is going wild when you consider what we have in defence. Right now with Wislon out we have Hill and Kiernan, who going by any game I've seen them playing in look worse than playing with no CB's. I would have happily went with Miller, Waggy, Dodoo and MOH if it meant getting someone like Marriappa in.
Hopefully this result causes a knee jerk reaction and we go out and bring in Senderos and someone else at CB because it will be a long year if we don't.
Anyone who has read any of my posts over the years would know I'm a glass half full guy and it really pains me to write negative stuff about the team but I backed them after Hamilton and took the 3 points against Dundee and Well over a good performance, but when you take last night into consideration and add it all up its simply not good enough.
Ross I agree with what your saying about gelling in and I'm also aware we have a few still to come back from injury/ get match fit but we should still have too much for the teams we've come up against, it only gets harder from here in and if the manger can't see the gaping holes in our team after these 4 games it doesn't bode well for the future imo.

27 Aug 2016 14:17:48
Ross, I doubt that there is a worse centre back pairing in the SPL than the one we saw last night. Even I would fancy my chances against Hill and Kiernan and I am 63. In 55 years of watching Rangers this is one of the worst centre back partnerships I can recall!

What is also annoying is that our Captain, (and I applaud his loyalty), is not a leader. That is also a major problem for us each week.

27 Aug 2016 14:28:11
"We aren't any worse at defending than Celtic"

Is that a joke?

We weren't forced to endure a disastrous preseason- who forced us exactly? I haven't heard Mark McGhee make any complaints if your trying to use the cup as an excuse.

27 Aug 2016 14:43:31
Recbob

I actually agree with a lot you say and your right we should have too much for the teams we have played so far. Some people on here seem to be so far from reality and can't see that the current team and formation aren't working. I would say it's just an honest assessment rather than being pessimistic.

27 Aug 2016 14:51:01
Ok now we are comparing ourselves to Motherwell and how they prepare? Yeah that makes complete sense since Motherwell haven't complained that makes them being forced to do a preseason schedule that didn't suit or challenge us at all. Would MW have chose that preseason? No then that's the definition of being forced to do a sub par preseason. Usual from you Mr Nice Celtic have conceded far more goals than we have against far lesser position but as usual you are so extreme Mr not so nice. Celtic have been piss poor defensively where they have out done us is going forward how you can't see that when there conceding 4 goals over two legs and dropping goals at astana or whatever they're called then you're a joke. If you think that's better than how we are defending I can't help you.







 

 

 
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