20 Jun 2016 12:00:55
Krancjar is about to sign brilliant is to be taken on the tour again like Joey did with big Davie weir tomorrow, also I don't actually think we need ball bk like others are saying, are midfield is complete and have guys in that could probably do a better, more experienced job, too many cooks and all that don't want to end up like the celtic with 15 midfielders, I actually would find it difficult to see were ball would play because our business so far, plus ball needs to be playing every week for his own development, we don't need to loan ball again.
20 Jun 2016 12:30:17
Completely disagree, Ball is a fantastic player with a good future ahead of him. he would be a very useful player to have, not to mention how versatile he is. CDM, CB, LB. If we sign ball I'll be over the moon, I personally think we could use him, personally I don't think Barton or Rossiter would suit the CDM that well in Scotland, yes they can put in a good tackle but I reckon they'll struggle to win many headers. Ball on the other hand would win most headers. let's not forget how well he played against Celtic, his class was evident there.
20 Jun 2016 12:56:01
Just a opinion, like many will have lol that ball is not needed, yeah he may be versatile although I have never seen him play LB as you stated.
My point is he will not play in most games, I think it would be better for him to play somewhere in England were he will, he never played in every one in the championship, and the only reason we were that desperate to have a holding midfielder was Kiernan and Wilson are not even close to be good enough, and we needed protection, if we get better CB's then and play Barton there then were a better team, also I think taV should be a bit more wiser about leaving the defence and wondering up the park, there's times to do it and there times not to do it, and sometimes he picks wrong.
That's just how I see it some centre backs with height and experience and better Lb and a RB tactics. We're stronger now, and when you think about it quite a lot of successful teams don't have a big guy infront of there centre backs, WHY, because the Cb's can be trusted,
Only my opinion, I'm sure many will disagree. But at least say why you think I'm wrong?
20 Jun 2016 13:46:26
Jay!, again I disagree with what you are saying. We needed ball in only a few games due to the fact we didn't need to defend as much against 90% of teams last season. he was used against better opposition and he done great. the coming season we will need a decent CDM who can win a ball in the air, air you trying to blame tav for Warburtons tactics? it's warburton that wants the full backs to play so high, which is what caught us out a few times! We need a CDM to sit infront of the defense to cover for the full backs pushing forward.
Also, when you think about it most teams don't play in a 4-3-3 formation. and those that do have a big CDM in their midfield. off the top of my head I can't think of a team that plays 4-3-3 and doesn't have a big and strong CDM (this is the bit where I am proven wrong with an obvious answer.
20 Jun 2016 13:58:45
He played left back a few times last season when wallace went off.
20 Jun 2016 14:00:53
For a start ball is allot better than both Wilson and Kieran. Hill ain't going to be playing every game for 90 mins due to age. Even if we do get mariappa and even Nelson or Taylor were still going to need players to cover in that position and also CDM ball would fit the bill perfectly he's young determined he's proved he can handle pressure etc etc. Anyone saying we're better off without ball needs to go specsavers.
20 Jun 2016 14:27:48
The people that need to go to specsavers are probably ones that don't read posts correctly, and turn offensive when I was having a opinion based post were people could air there views, Steve I never said that were better of without ball, I never said he was a bad player point was merely that I felt we had that position covered with better quality, and that ball would be better in the English championship for his development, if we're not going to use him every week, so Steve u free this week for a appointment at your local specsavers.
20 Jun 2016 14:33:47
Jay!, you are voicing your opinion. we are voicing ours. Ball plays for Tottenham currently, and if it wasn't for Dier I reckon would be kept to see how he develops over the next season or 2. we haven't seen our new players yet but we had ball on loan and we know he can play.
20 Jun 2016 14:52:42
I think ball would still be a good move if we going to compete the squad will need rotation I'm sure that's in the managers plans it's a long season we expect to challenge and go as far as possible in cups so there's lots of games ahead of us and if we pick up an injury here and there better to have the right quality to fill in rather than playing players out of position warbs does like a trim squad but we will need the right amount of players to challenge the other side.
20 Jun 2016 15:54:04
Onlyshowaround, what you on about, I was just telling somebody called Steve, don't say things I never said like for example quote Steve, 1.we would be better off without him.
I never said that I said I don't think he's needed that's all.
2. Complete different meanings onlyshowaround, yeah okay your voicing your opinion based on what you think i said. Steve and only show, learn to read, never know might get a better job!
20 Jun 2016 16:39:48
would be over the moon if we could get ball back he is a great prospect.
20 Jun 2016 16:41:04
put the claws away ladies lol.
20 Jun 2016 16:41:39
Ball is good enough to play week in week out for us, although I'd rather see us sign him permanently if it was possible.
If we get Marriappa I'd let Kiernan go, Wilson could still be good beside the right CB in my opinion . I even think Hill and Wilson could be a good partnership, he was great beside Sir Davie.
20 Jun 2016 16:52:36
Jay, All I said was "you are voicing your opinion. we are voicing ours. "
Steve may have misinterpreted what you meant, however he had opinion on what he read. My opinion is that I disagree with 90% of what you said. other than that mate, you are being a bit of w***er due to the fact we disagree with the drivel you are spouting.