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02 Feb 2018 20:24:09
Why are rangers fans serious about giving David bates a new contract he is a terrible player boy aiden Wilson twice the player.

Red white and blue

1.) 02 Feb 2018 20:55:57
Explain to me why he’s a terrible player? A terrible player wouldn’t be getting man of the match performances on several occasions. He can defend full stop. People need to stop giving him a hard time for his distribution. If he could defend and had the passing of a playmaker he wouldn’t be playing for us, it’s a simple as that. He’s young and has a lot to learn but by no means is he a terrible player.


2.) 02 Feb 2018 21:27:07
I think bates is rubbish and are worst defender by far Think even cardoso is a much better all round player yet all I hear is bates is still young yet cardoso is only 2years older than him not to mention the fact he is playing in a foreign country totally different league to what he used to yet he gets dogs abuse for a bad game yet bates just gets pour bates leave him alone he still young when all that needs to be said is bates is not good enough end of.


3.) 02 Feb 2018 21:55:15
Spot on blue as for the young kids a few mistakes that's it and red white and blue everybody makes mistakes it's a way of life boyata now that's terrible see the difference son


4.) 03 Feb 2018 00:33:13
He may have indifferent distribution but the passes he does pull off are usually pretty decent in final 3rd. He is quite quick and athletic if he gets beat he normally gets back goalside quickly and has above average strength play him alongside Bruno or Martin and he will continue to improve. Listen I used to think he was just another mediocre squad player at best but to be fair to him defensively he has rarely been found wanting or directly causing us a goal and he’s played Ceptic, the sheep and the other big games and never let us down


5.) 03 Feb 2018 01:27:15
Why have you made several posts stating pretty much the same thing. You don't rate Bates, we get it move on.


6.) 03 Feb 2018 08:10:07
Red white and blue is at the wind up! TROLL


7.) 03 Feb 2018 10:33:38
Bates is an ok defender if he keeps it simple. he's not a footballer he cannot ping a ball 40/50 yards his distribution from the back is brutal and he needs to stop trying the world class passes like he constantly tried against Fraserburgh, every time he gave the ball away.

And when alves is fit, play him and martin. that's our strongest paring they can both pass a ball and are decent with the ball at there feet


 

 

24 Oct 2017 11:37:49
Carlos penna has been bying large amounts of alcahol from a small news agents in milingavie this has been almost every night since he has arrived at rangers he is a drunk.

Red white and blue

1.) 24 Oct 2017 11:43:45
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha honestly mate, i'm just buckled at that.

He's had a howler and now he's a drunk!

This is all because he had a reputation for a night out in Mexico. Pathetic. Mad Pena doon the One O One for a bottle of a tonic.


2.) 24 Oct 2017 12:37:32
Buddy I have been a season ticket holder for 20 years I work in milingavie every day and the shop owner is a friend penna in every night byuin booze he even seeds his wife and father in 100 percent truth


3.) 24 Oct 2017 12:41:04
This is 100 % true


4.) 24 Oct 2017 12:42:01
Bearmode91 please believe me it's true


5.) 24 Oct 2017 15:23:14
Pc will be in charge until the end of this season there's no money to sack him


6.) 24 Oct 2017 16:06:45
Just a shame he's no like gazza or goram etc the drinker he was the night before the better he played the next day


 

 

 

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18 Feb 2018 21:50:28
Good game the day docherty slow to get started but am sure good things to come from this young guy. and to all the windass haters are you watching. David bates is a champion ship player he is the worst centre back in the spl.

Red white and blue

1.) 18 Feb 2018 22:05:34
Break down the passages of play where bates was at fault then!?


2.) 18 Feb 2018 22:06:17
Again we have a midfield that can't defend


3.) 18 Feb 2018 22:45:13
Bates is basically a Hamilton accies standard player


4.) 18 Feb 2018 23:28:53
Jzer

Bates isn’t good enough his distribution is absolutely shocking. If we want to catch Celtic he isn’t the answer long term


5.) 19 Feb 2018 00:33:13
We miss Ryan Jack and Ross Mcrorie in the middle. Defensive midfield role.


6.) 19 Feb 2018 01:25:44
I suggest all you lot slagging Bates go back and look at each goal they score. He is at fault for ZERO of them yet here you all are slagging him. The first goal Docherty fails to clear and then Martin doesn’t chase out to close down the shot. Second goal, Martin lumps the ball forward to one of their players then they break and score. Third goal, Martin hand ball. At what point did Bates do anything wrong? And for those of you saying his distribution is bad. he’s a good strong defender with good positional sense. If his distribution was good he wouldn’t be playing for us, it’s as simple as that. I think because he is young and came from raith he is the scape goat for when things go wrong at the back. I’ve seen him put in far more good performances this season than Alves has when he has played


7.) 19 Feb 2018 06:48:25
Well said Blue
Bates was not at fault for any of the goals, Martin was at fault for two and Docherty the other.
Bates might not be the best centre half we have but at this moment he has the jersey.
Can anyone tell me any goal since the winter break that has been his fault.
The guy gives 100% every time but because he is not one of the pin up boys he is being made the scapegoat.
Instead of slagging the team get behind them.
Murty sees the players everyday and at this moment he thinks bates is better than Alves or Alves would have the jersey end of story
Onwards and Upwards just a think we are only 9 behind, the sheep beat them next week and then we do and the title is back on
keep believing


8.) 19 Feb 2018 08:36:25
I have merely pointed out that Bates passing his terrible and he gives the ball away needlessly. For all those defending him are you happy with his distribution?


9.) 19 Feb 2018 08:47:46
I think everyone else defending Bates would be happy to give him time to improve his distribution as he is a young CB and the rest of his game is very good. Remember Craig Moore. Got pelters, went on to be a good Captain.


10.) 19 Feb 2018 15:24:56
Pappy

Moore was being played at right back when he got prlters


11.) 19 Feb 2018 18:34:44
I know he was played right back when he was getting it rough. The point is he was given pelters when inexperienced And went on to be a great player for us. Give our boys time


12.) 19 Feb 2018 21:36:41
Feck sake. John Brown is given plaudits and he was and only was a strong defender. When he scored against Celtic after a nose bleed run, people weren't in awe they were smiling saying what the feck you doing up there. So give Bates a break.


13.) 19 Feb 2018 22:28:05
The penalty was unfortunate and for Martin to get booked was unbelievable to say the least. I didn"t think Bates had his best game but as a lot of guys have said, he was blameless for any of the goals


 

 

07 Feb 2018 08:29:11
I came on here and had a go at bates. and got told to give him a chance now pepole are slagging windass lol. The bottom line is rangers need a manager not sum run of the mill under 20s coach.

Red white and blue

1.) 07 Feb 2018 09:15:39
You are not allowed to critcise our players. that's not how proper 'Supporters' should behave!


2.) 07 Feb 2018 09:16:30
Bates was a collosus last night. Superb no nonsense defender. Very close to another motm performance and windass got a goal and assist - he was shhhin all the doubers wasnt the first and won't be tge last player to celebrate like that. happy with murty what you want warburton or pedro back?


3.) 07 Feb 2018 10:25:12
Chris, spot on.

Jose Mourinho shushed his own fans at the start of the season and only a few days ago Antoine Griezmann shushed and gave abuse back to his own fans, happens all the time.

And before I get stick for naming a top class manager and player, no I am not comparing them with Josh Windass, but Windass is a top performer in his position, that is backed up by his stats. let's not forget until Murty took over Windass was splaying left wing, he is never a left winger in his life.

Rangers are sitting 3rd because of our defensive short comings, not attacking, we have the top goalscorers and top creators in the league, again this is a fact proven by players stats.


4.) 07 Feb 2018 10:46:09
RfcChris

Are you saying that the only alternatives to Murty are Warburton or Pedro?


5.) 07 Feb 2018 14:08:11
Arthur D. No my point is yes murty was an under 20s manager but warburton was a manager and pedro was a manager and graeme murty has bested both of them.


6.) 07 Feb 2018 19:29:03
@rfcchris murty bettered Pedro however after the same amount of games Pedro had more points on the board? Not backing Pedro, far from it but I read earlier today that murty has actually lost more games in the top flight than either murty or Pedro. Need to double check that stats tho. So yeah Pedro is not better than murty but also he's not worse.

Unfortunately the rot has set in and now the fans are slowly accepting mediocrity. I mean come on guys a laboured win vs a very poor thistle side, whom had their chances, and all of a sudden we are world beaters.

Nah not for me, still need massive change at the club starting with a proper experienced manager then a lot of the names mentioned above being shipped out before we can think of challenging for anything


7.) 07 Feb 2018 20:22:01
Rfc Chris? Pedro record over same amount of games is better and has 3more points than murty so how on earth has he bested Pedro lol shows the influence the media can have tbh.


 

 

02 Feb 2018 22:35:37
David bates level is championship scotland
And it will be proven

Red white and blue

1.) 03 Feb 2018 01:11:06
Why any true Rangers fans would have this opinion is beyond me.

Your at the windup pal. Bates came on early in an old firm and was outstanding and has never let is down before or since so the young guy has my full support. Would love to see him suceed.

Bet you were one of the fans that gave Charlie Adam, Alan Hutton, Mo Ross etc a torrid time but made allowances for foreign duds like Emerson and Capucho.


2.) 03 Feb 2018 08:34:11
Dont know wether or not the OP is a troll but i must admit i'm not totally convinced about Bates either. yes he had a good game against the filth but u can't just ignore the fact that fat Boyd tore him apart the week before it


3.) 03 Feb 2018 09:14:07
Bates has only started playing in first team regular last few months people on here slating him . ye he makes mistakes and passings a bit dodgy sometimes but I think he will develop into top centre half give him time


4.) 03 Feb 2018 10:11:39
He's just one of those types that thrives on the big games in my opinion, he just looks to clumsy and slow against lesser teams


5.) 03 Feb 2018 10:13:13
Thats 3 or 4 posts about David Bates in the one day from this guy. Give it a rest mate. We get it, you don't like Bates fair enough!


6.) 03 Feb 2018 10:18:21
He's 21 years old. Comments like that are poorly thought out and don't belong on this forum.


7.) 03 Feb 2018 12:18:24
Wish we had few more with bates attitude this young boy will only get better and has never let us down


8.) 03 Feb 2018 13:18:05
Not sure how good Bates will get but no one can deny that he is constantly improving. Give him a chance


 

 

02 Feb 2018 15:01:01
Maby I'm watching the wrong player but David bates is the worst centre half at ibrox he's a joke.

Red white and blue

1.) 02 Feb 2018 15:07:13
Troll confirmed.

This is the guy that was claiming Pena was buying bottles of wine out costcutters up Milngavie.


2.) 02 Feb 2018 15:12:22
good catch BearMode91


3.) 02 Feb 2018 15:14:37
What does that say about Dembelle - Bates had him in his back pocket last old firm game?


4.) 02 Feb 2018 16:32:03
Have to say I am no 100% percent convinced by Bates either. I get the fact he is still young and can only get better with time but if we are to catch Celtic and better them, then I think we will need better than Bates in there.


5.) 02 Feb 2018 16:44:21
Decent enough defender but distribution is woeful


6.) 02 Feb 2018 17:10:25
Must add tho, I think calling him a joke is a bit harsh.


7.) 02 Feb 2018 17:53:21
I can remember when Craig Moore was coming into the team and got similar stick. He ended up being one of my favourite players of all time. Give the boy a chance and give him the support he needs. And remember few of the great defenders had good distribution, as long as he can get the ball comfortably onto midfield to someone who is good on the ball.


8.) 02 Feb 2018 18:10:54
Bates who was man of the match last old firm


9.) 02 Feb 2018 18:26:14
Never mind his distribution to team mates! All a Centre back has to do is distribute it into row Z! 😉


10.) 02 Feb 2018 18:26:31
The big man will only get better but I think he will level out at SPL standard which will be fine although if we want to be playing group stage Europa League football or higher then we will need to upgrade both centre backs and probably a whole lot more in the next few seasons.

We seem to have a settled first 11 that I would like to see 2 players come into this summer but the back up is woefully short IMO, we could be doing with overhauling the squad in that sense and getting rid of the dead wood! (Easier said Ryan done I know! )

On the plus side we seem to have a raft of young talent at the club at present and we need to get these guys tied down ASAP and find a pathway to to the senior squad, you never know they might just be the answer!


11.) 02 Feb 2018 19:20:41
I was very impressed with Aidan Wilson when he got a few games last season. Would like to see more of him


12.) 02 Feb 2018 20:28:47
Yes me too, along with Atakayi, Andrew Dallas, Stephen Kelly and Liam Burt!


13.) 02 Feb 2018 20:33:17
bates is ten times the prospect than their boy ayer who i hope plays against us as cumdog and morelos will run a total on their defence.


14.) 02 Feb 2018 20:43:55
The last game big Bruno played did you observe his
Distribution it’s was awful at best. I watched him to see what all the fuss was about and I was mega disappointed
Distribution was crap. It seems to be a common theme from recent Rangers defensive players
Tav has certainly improved
Need to work on defence perhaps if gough is tight with DK
Maybe he could become our defensive coach


15.) 02 Feb 2018 21:18:30
Kelly is top quality


16.) 02 Feb 2018 21:28:20
RTID enough said 👍


17.) 03 Feb 2018 08:52:23
Is that the same atakayi who was outshone by dalcio recently? . Agree we have a lot of good young talented players coming through at the moment and hopefully 2 or 3 make the first team this season.

Does anyone know what happened to Liam but?


 

 

 

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Pc will be in charge until the end of this season there's no money to sack him

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24 Oct 2017 12:37:32
Buddy I have been a season ticket holder for 20 years I work in milingavie every day and the shop owner is a friend penna in every night byuin booze he even seeds his wife and father in 100 percent truth

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