07 Sep 2015 21:19:11
Ive tried and I've tried and I know its wrong but I just can't bring myself to cheer on Scotland when they're playing, the reason is I can't support any team with Celtic players, the thought of cheering on the likes of Brown, Forrest, Mulgrew etc. fills me with dread. Am I in a minority of one or does anyone else feel the same? If the likes of Lee Wallace was in a team i'd want him to do well but wouldn't really care if team won lost or drew. isn't that awful?

1.) 08 Sep 2015
07 Sep 2015 23:01:29
I'm sure there are plenty more who feel like you do but I'm not one.
I am Scottish, proud to be Scottish and I will always support my national team. To be honest I find this whole SFA conspiracy against Rangers idea to be worryingly paranoid and a bit pathetic if I'm honest.
As for the Celtic players in the team it only bothers me if they're not up to the job and frequently I find myself irritated by Brown as I was tonight. As for Forest I honestly don't see what the fuss is about. I don't rate him at all. I rarely see him take on a man and when he does there's rarely an end product of a decent ball. Thought Mulgrew was decent tonight and would sooner have him captain over Brown. As for Griffiths, the more I hear about him the more I dislike the sound of him as a person. But as a player I would have had him on the park before Fletcher.
All that said, you can't force yourself to support something you're not comfortable with so if that's how you feel that's how you feel. Nothing to do with anyone else I suppose. Me, when the ball hits the back of the net for Scotland I can't control my shouts of "Yes! Get intae them Scotland" regardless of who's playing in the team. If truth be told my dislike for Ian Black was far greater than any of the Celtic players I've mentioned, with the possible exception of Griffiths.

2.) 08 Sep 2015
07 Sep 2015 23:34:29
Well you must be a happy person tonight,the thought of someone not wanting their country to win because it picks celtic players fills me with dread.

What a bigot! I`m glad the national team d`ont have your support if that`s your reason for not cheering your country.

Could have seen your point if you had said they always fall at the final hurdle, and make you feel deflated.

But because there Celtic players in the team. really! grow up.

3.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 00:30:37
Sounds a bit childish to me

4.) 08 Sep 2015
07 Sep 2015 22:39:15
couldny trap, pass or header a ball if they tried. thank god for the gers as they seem to have that covered.Darren fletcher sits on the bench whilst Morrison runs around kicking everything along wi his partner brown.and once again steven fletcher. hahahahahaha. Gordon o'strachan is now a laughing stock just like his predecessor. how do those guys make so much money. deecee

5.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 01:35:44
The 3 of them where rank rotten.Brown looks fu#ed,Mulgrew pi$h & God knows why they pick Forrest ( can run but never the final ball then non existent). Ad get rid of the 3 of them tomorrow if it was possible!( & am not anti Celtic lol) just support em

6.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 07:03:33
I would also always support Scotland regardless of who is playing. But I wouldn't go so far as to call someone a bigot for not doing so its a bit out of context.

7.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 07:58:27
Nah your letting yourself down big time with that mate, if your scotish you support the the national team regardless of whose playing. Thought mulgrew tried hard and that's all you can ask when they pull that Scotland top on

{Ed001's Note - why though? Patriotism? If so, you do realise that it is merely a concept invented to get peasantry to fight wars for the monarchy right? Why should people not be able to choose whether to support their country or not? I certainly would never give a toss how any nation gets on, it matters not a jot to me. Though I do watch out for players from my club and how they get on.}

8.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 08:11:47
Ed that comes across as a particularly republican point of view that. Not sure where you're going with that to be honest. With regards to my own comments I simply ment Assuming you follow Scotland then you get behind whoever plays on the night regardless of their club

{Ed001's Note - what the hell? Nothing to do with republican at all, simply pointing out why I understand someone not giving a monkey's about their country. In Liverpool we have a saying, Scouse, not English. What you meant and what you said were totally different things then.}

9.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 08:35:06
Bluebeard, the one thing i'm not is a bigot, i'm married to a Catholic woman and my kids go to a Catholic school, the reason for that is i'm not religious while she is. I put post up to see how other people felt and to get their opinions and not to be called names by the likes of you. i'm probably just old fashioned but surely not liking your biggest rivals and their players dosnt make you a bigot.

10.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 08:38:42
Ed if you are a follower of your national team you are not going to wish them ill solely on when ever an Everton player is in the team and that is where most people are taking exception to this ludicrous and clearly bigoted standpoint. And I already know the Merseyside rivalry in many ways has matured past the lunacy that exists up here.

The part "I can't support any team with Celtic players" also touches on something we talked of recently, ie a Celtic win v say Aberdeen handing Rangers a league title, it is a beyond daft standpoint from a beyond daft person. Even after the Mo Johnston debacle I cheered when he scored v Sweden in the 1990 World Cup, grow up would be my advice to the poster.

{Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying and fully agree on this point.}

11.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 08:39:19
The core issue of the thread was that the original post by janesadiction stated that he couldn't get behind the national team because it was made up partly with Celtic players.
Seems pretty straight forward to me what I said in reply is easy enough to follow.

If you were from this particular part of the world you would realise that the suggestion of peasantry fighting for monarchy could take us in whole different direction so clearly what you've said and what you mean are two entirely different things.

{Ed001's Note - you can try and explain it how you want, but what you said was not that.

As for the second paragraph, that just shows how idiotic people are, if they can't differentiate that, not that what I said and what I meant are different things. If you fail to understand the point I made, that is your issue not mine.}

12.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 09:18:59
Wow now you are making it personal because you choose not to acknowledge there is a potential problem in your choise of words.Keep calm and realise my intension is only keep it civilised.

{Ed001's Note - how am I making it personal? Again the lack of understanding is coming from your end not mine. If you are unable to understand the difference between a calm response and one that is not calm, then I think I am wasting my time. You clearly just don't have a sufficient understanding of basic English language to grasp the concepts at hand and so jump to erroneous conclusions, whatever the intention actually is. That again is not my fault, so please just drop this as you are getting the wrong end of the stick each time due to your lack of understanding, not my problematic wording.}

13.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 09:52:27
Here's a concept for you, could it be that it's you who has the lack of understanding?A lack of respect certainly which shows your arrogance.
That's twice you've implied I'm unable and that you are all knowing because I disagree. I think that says more about you than it does me.

I have a basic understanding of English and nothing more, however I have a clear understanding of when someone is loosing the plot and resorts to insults in an attempt to gain the upper hand.

I'd have thought it enough that the posters on here try to regulate themselves in a proper manner without the need for you to go sticking your oar in unessesaraly.

14.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 10:01:29
Janesaddiction while I respect your choice not to support the national team cause it has Celtic players in it is up to you your free choice but sori when you mention your family who is catholic that means your not sectarian but not supporting Scotland because of Celtic players does mean your bigoted but like I said you are entitled to support who u like

15.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 10:50:32
So that's your response is it? If you come across someone who disagrees with you opinions then you simply claim they are thick and don't understand then duely ban them from the site.

Well this is only one of the rangers forums I'm on and rest assured the other's will know exactly the type of people governing this one. Absolutely pathetic,heavy handed is an understatement what you're doing is both cowardly and conceited

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? You never disagreed with my opinion, you didn't know what I was talking about. So grow up. As for being banned, what? You are not banned, even though you are acting like a moron. As for spreading malicious lies, do you really think I care what you do? Do you think it matters to me? And you have the cheek to call others pathetic!}

16.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 11:01:06
I just think that all this is just absolutely nonsense! Scotland are playing great and yeah they will as normal probably fail to get to France, but dose that mean we need to stop cheering our guys on?

I'm for happy with the players the manager has picked. Just because there ain't no Rangers players in the team don't make us any better or worse. I can see the point people saying Strachan won't pick rangers players because he is an ex Celtic manager BULLS**T. Maybe Rangers players won't cut it at the moment because we ain't playing top flight teams or the style of football Scotland play won't suit them.

Honest the bigots out there get a grip it's a game of football. 90 mins of guys running about trying to put a ball in the goal for us all to cheer. Just GROW UP!

17.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 11:25:59
So very sad to see these posts.

I let Celtic and their fans do all the hating, so I do. I have no time for it - dislike them and their silly fixation with The Famous Glasgow Rangers.

We are a footballing nation who support our individual teams through thick and thin, and come together at times like this to support our teams, some players I like, some players I do not like and some players I dislike intensely - but I do not hate any of them, and will cheer the team on when and if they win.

I think the original post should have kept that feeling a secret - in this day and age we should be building bridges not creating sectarian divide.

18.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 12:47:45
Bay

As always common sense but spotting the actual bad things Griffith is a NED I every sense of the word he is and will always be an embarrassment to whomever he plays for both on and off the pitch the contrast between him and Miller who has played well for both Rangers and septic is night and day.

I love when Scotland win but am getting tired of the year in year out let downs georgia being a prime example if we win that we only needed to beat Poland to guarantee a spot in France as per usual we ar*e it up

Thank god for Warburton and Rangers

19.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 13:09:38
KT?

Every club has had it's bad boys and we have had a few of those, so we have.

Let Celtic and their fans hate us in spades - I do not care - that is their problem not ours. If we turn the other cheek that will infuriate them more than us posting hate filled messages, so it will.

Two sides hating each other does not work - just look at Syria and other Middle East countries.

Or do should we as supporters of The Famous Glasgow Rangers fixate the same as Celtic do??

20.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 13:08:52
KT ok ned.

Griffiths a ned. Honest do you even know what N.E.D stands for and I don't mean the movie.

Barry Ferguson was and probably still is a NED as you put it. Scott brown is one. Zlatan Ibrohamivc is one. Rino Gattusso is one. Alex Rae is one. I can keep going here. Just because they play aggressive football and don't take no CRAP from anyone don't mean their NEDS. Means their men and won't back down from anything!

Honest all you Rangers bigots is what give us that shame and blame. Shut up for once and enjoy 90 minutes of football.

To the original post person that put debate ongoing. Did you cheer for Kenny Miller when he left Celtic and came to us? Did you cheer Mo Johnston? If so shut up your just a big hated bigot that got brought up hating Celtic fans if so that's your family's up bringing of you! But these guys get paid to kick a ball who cares if most Celtics team in Scotland.

Look at our team. It's mostly English players so what you going to cheer for England when our players not in that team? Get a GRIP!

21.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 13:12:36
Sorry doesn't pick Rangers players because of the division total bull,Lee Wallace is a left back probably the best in Scotland on form scoring goals ,Charlie Mulgrew is niether a left back oe on form he was culpable against Malmo and again for Germany's second goal.Its not Mulgrews fault its Strachan a bitter wee man who cost us qualification because he only plays favourites,why no Fletcher Adam Rhodes.

22.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 15:14:18
Got to disagree with you there Teeboy. As far as I'm aware NED stands for Non Educated Delinquent and has absolutely nothing to do with being an aggressive footballer. It's more to do with a person's social character, moral standing and general attitude towards people and their responsibilities to others in their community. With all that in mind it might be worth rethinking some of those you branded a Ned in your post. Ibrahimovic a Ned?! Nah, I don't think so. Griffiths though?! Well you'd have to ask his children, the mother's of his children and the members of the public that have encountered him on a night out.

23.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 16:02:13
Janesaddiction. Your right in saying, not liking your biggest rivals and their players, "does not make you a bigot" but surely only when their playing for your biggest rivals.

As you asked for other posters thoughts on this issue my opinion is that,people who won't support the national team because there`s Celtic or Rangers players selected, are bigots.

24.) 08 Sep 2015
08 Sep 2015 16:23:25
Spot on bay there Teeboy was rambling nonsense!i for 1 have no interest in international football at all but that's just me got nothin to do with who is playing for Scotland I just don't have the same interest as I do watching Rangers or club football for that matter but I agree the boy is a bigot if he can't stand the team due to Celtic players being present in the squad sad days!!