19 Jan 2024 07:03:07
Hearing Shankland will be loan with obligation to buy in the summer.

1.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:05:27
Absolutely no chance hearts loan him to us even with an obligation to buy in the summer.

2.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:10:27
So we are going to get Shankland on loan? No chance. Sorry.

3.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:20:50
As much as I'd love us to get Shankland as I think he could be the difference in the second half of the season, there's not a chance Hearts will agree to that unfortunately.

4.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:21:40
Hope you’re right but I can’t see Hearts going for that.

5.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:41:06
Hope so twisted, not seen you on here for a bit, you doing OK,
Hope it's sorted before he gets cup-tied.

6.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:56:45
For those that don’t understand, loan with obligation to buy is more or less same thing as selling and receiving the payments in instalments. Just the registration is not done until the summer. So yes hearts would loan with obligation to buy if the price is right.

7.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 08:58:35
Why is shankland still a thing it's genuinely not happening.

8.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:15:59
Hearts would want cash up front you would think but who knows though they ain't going too be doing us any favours.

9.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:19:45
Now that is a rumour.
It surprises me that there is such a surge to sign Shankland?

10.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:32:04
I suppose an obligation to buy would really just be a deferral of the agreed transfer fee in practice. And if there was a smaller initial loan fee, where transfers are regularly paid off in instalments it could mean no real difference to the income for Hearts and let us defer the transfer cost in to the next season for FFP reasons?

While it doesn't seem to chime with the rumours we were prepared to spend big on Denkey, and it sounds left field, I wouldn't be against it at all if it happened.

11.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:40:14
I would think that Hearts would want some sort of payment up front to replace their captain and top goal scorer to try and get the European money and money for finnishing 3rd, will be incredibly difficult without shankland or a replacement but maybe hearts have done a similar deal elsewhere tho who knows.

12.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:44:19
No they wouldn’t borna bear. They will want a large portion of the money up front so they can reinvest and buy another striker. There’s 0 chance hearts are allowing a loan with an obligation to buy. I’m so sick of the Shankland chat when we’re clearly not trying to buy him.

13.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 09:55:30
Think the surge is Carrick he’s scored 13 goals so far this season 3 more than tav and sima and 7 more than Dessers so far

And think he was around 24 goals scored last season
when was last time one our forwards scored 24 goals in a season think we’re going back a while?

if he could contribute those goals and we throw in tav stats and Sima etc etc would take us a long way to helping us win the league ?.

14.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 10:25:34
I can't understand those who feel Shankland isn't good enough? We desperately need to be trying to buy those who stand out in our league as we used to years ago. He won't be coming on loan tho, no chance Herts will allow that.

15.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 10:27:43
If he comes he comes, he’s a decent player but you must admit he is slow? I suppose it’s down to opinions, good luck to the guy wherever he goes or stays.

16.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 10:47:16
He did indeed score 24 league goals last season, Stig.
But 11 were penalties.
And as Tav will always take our penalties his net contribution from last season would be 13 goals. So is that enough in your eyes?
But in fairness he has already equalled his net tally from last season.
I'm still not fussed about Shankland.

17.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 10:48:52
I think Rangers fans have been used to great goal scorer centre forwards and they are very hard to find now without a £100 million? The likes of Colin Stein, super Ally, Hately? We as fans were spoiled and it was great. Now we have to depend on a bit of luck and unearthing a bargain? So hopefully I’m wrong and Shankland is the answer? A lot of young fans went to games just to see Ally, Amato, etc.

18.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 10:51:51
1872, love it to be true. Seems to good to be true .

19.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 11:11:33
So hearts are basically going to give us their best player till the summer without paying for him ?just can’t see it how do they buy a replacement? Doesn’t make any sense for hearts and their fans would go mental.

20.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 11:19:34
1st of all I’m in the get him signed camp he has continued to improve vastly this season. He has shown he can score home and away against Rangers and Celtic, in Europe and an international level. He’s exactly what we need and he does more than just score his hold up and link up play is very good and his goal return this season has been great and majority haven’t been penalties.
I can see a deal where we pay £1m loan fee and remainder in summer it’s just a different way to structure payments possibly to do with FFP as just by winning Europa league group, the money for winning group, qualifying our group and gate receipts for last 16 is money we wouldn’t have got if we finished 3rd and in to a conference league would be enough to buy him outright in this window so it’s maybe a FFP reason why we aren’t buying outright this window.
I fully expect us to try and broker a deal with Hearts in this window as Hearts know coke summer he has 12 months left and 6 before he can sign pre contract when they get nothing so would want to get maximum value.

21.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 11:35:22
Not a chance hearts are loaning out there best player and not able to replace him. there fighting for 3rd right now and just offered him a new deal.

22.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 12:03:19
Aye because hearts are going to loan us their captain and the best performing striker in Scotland ? their fans would riot.

23.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 12:30:01
Their fans would ape s. t not a chance that will happen.

24.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 12:33:55
Good to see you posting again, BearMode91, it's been a long time my man. Hope you're well?

25.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:00:41
So hearts have went from a £3.5 million up front demand to you can have him for free for 6months then pay? Doubtful but it is Scottish football so anything can happen.

26.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:02:27
Absolutely right based on last season MrPH, but he has missed all his penalties this year and is still up there in the top scorer race. Also got to take into account the quality and number of chances he will get at hearts, a good number of his goals this year have been out of nothing with quality finishes.

27.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:05:34
GMS think you will find the majority on here certainly think he’s good enough, possibly only one or two that don’t, Generally the posts are about whether he will be signed or not, that’s different.

28.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:07:23
Agree that he may be slow but he makes it up for it in his football brain and would be in the right place to put the chances away and playing in better conditions helps his Scotland chances, apart from Scotland manager doesn’t seem to like us.

29.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:14:21
Hearts director has said they are talking to Shankland about a new contract and they have had no interest in him from any other club. That puts that rumour to bed and hopefully we have another striker lined up that the press haven`t got wind of yet.

30.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:43:07
David we could in theory pay a £4m 6 month loan fee and complete transfer registration for £0 in the summer.

31.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:48:36
Ok Borna and the point in that would be…?

32.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:57:08
Borna explain how that would work, if he then leaves at end of loan.

33.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 13:57:12
Realise I'll get pelters as I rarely post. butI'm hearing van veen to Hearts! You do the math.

34.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 14:07:51
Hearing van veen to Hearts!

35.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 14:11:57
For god's sake storm take a chill pill and settle down ? Can't you see that Twisted Tonic is pulling your chain ??.

36.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 15:42:20
David I’m not saying there is any point in it. I’m saying in theory it could happen so don’t discount its possibility that we sign someone with a fee up front and obligation to pay more at the end of the loan.
John, he wouldn’t leave at the end of the loan if it’s an obligation to buy. His contract would be signed in advance, almost like a pre contract.

37.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 16:37:10
Hearts want money. Why would they loan him to us with 18 months left on his contract?

38.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 18:06:16
This doesn’t make any sense unless we are maybe giving them lowry on a permanent as well as wright or similar for free and the obligation to buy is £5m plus. However I don’t think hearts would swap shankland for butland .

39.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 18:17:54
To be fair with only 18 months left on his contract maybe hearts would rather a guaranteed £3m+ in the summer instead of gambling on a 3rd place finish and shankland leaving for nothing next year. Shankland could potentially down tools if he doesn’t get his move to rangers and if he does hearts will struggle to finish 3rd in my opinion. If that happens then they don’t get europa group stage money and they also get pennies for shankland in the summer instead of millions now .
This would Probably suits both clubs and player.

40.) 19 Jan 2024
19 Jan 2024 18:32:22
Heard from a hearts season ticket holder that shankland hasn't trained this week so hopefully won't be in the squad for tomorrow just saying.